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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2725 on: May 05, 2025, 07:58:21 AM »
Commandos were beautiful bikes, too bad no one has been able to reproduce a good version.
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2726 on: May 06, 2025, 09:33:23 PM »
The red one's a '66 N15CS, not a Commando (not a rubber mounted 'Isolastic' engine/swingarm setup). I rebuilt that one from a $150 pile of parts and it's a nice runner, but wholly different in character to the Commando. The Commando is a '71. I met an older gent and his wife at a show, he asked me about where to get help with some electric stuff that was giving him trouble.  I pointed him to a forum and we corresponded a bit, but then it went radio silent. His wife contacted me on his Email, saying he'd passed. She needed $ to pay for his funeral. I told her she'd get no more than $3K or so for the bike as it was and offered to fix it up and help sell it. So that's what I have done. I have gone through it pretty extensively. I'm not charging her.

The N15CS has a low compression (7.5:1) engine which was converted to a single carb - Mikuni VM34. The engine is solid mounted. I wanted it to be a 'loper' not a 'zinger' so I geared it tall. It worked out great, it's a no-hurry bike that doesn't vibrate terribly. I ride it all the time. The Commando is a different beast. It loves revs, and once you hit 2500 the Isolastic mounts take over. It is smooth as glass, despite all the vibrating/racket the engine is making. It has the original twin leading shoe brake, which works fine. But I put a disc brake from a '73 Commando on my N15CS and it's better. The Commando hustles, the N15CS saunters.

The market is weak right now, Norton guys are ageing out. I want to get the widow a good price and would buy it except for my financial situation. I am just doing this to help a person out who has suffered a great loss and would probably be ripped off.  I think I can get her a fair price, and it shall happen soon.

Oh, notice how the engine in the N15CS is upright, and the Commandos is canted forward? Easy to do because the engine and transmission are separate (non-unit construction). The inboard countershaft sprocket (with the kickstart shaft going inside the center, to the clutch, then the primary chain to the engine sprocket) is complicated and painful to service and adjust. Seems like the British steel is much longer-lived, thankfully, so the sprocket replacement interval is longer. The rear sprocket is integral to the brake drum, and is >$200 to replace. Wow.  All of the steel and alumni(i)um on the British bikes seems to be a grade above Japanese stuff. That is a blessing because the bikes are decades behind, being mid 1930's era designs, in reality.

Here's another angle

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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2727 on: May 06, 2025, 09:56:40 PM »
Gpz, can you please reduce the size of your pictures? I would like to see more than 1/4 of the bikes at one time. ;D
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2728 on: May 06, 2025, 11:17:23 PM »
Most forum software automatically sizes the images to fit, this one evidently doesn't. When I view them after posting, I can't tell if they are sizing automatically or not, because they may remain full size in my cache.  it's just how things work on some forums. Good to know. I will resize them and update. 

Edit: To make things more tricky, Imgur keeps updating their site and I can't get to my images to edit them now. Somtimes I can, other times I can't (like now). And I have to guess how big to make them. 800x600? These are 2K or so. It's guesswork. Didn't used to do this. You can right click on a picture and view in another page, that's all I can figure out to do right now given that it's guesswork and bad SW by the site and Imgur foiling me.

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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2729 on: May 07, 2025, 11:31:33 AM »
The red one's a '66 N15CS, not a Commando (not a rubber mounted 'Isolastic' engine/swingarm setup). I rebuilt that one from a $150 pile of parts and it's a nice runner, but wholly different in character to the Commando. The Commando is a '71. I met an older gent and his wife at a show, he asked me about where to get help with some electric stuff that was giving him trouble.  I pointed him to a forum and we corresponded a bit, but then it went radio silent. His wife contacted me on his Email, saying he'd passed. She needed $ to pay for his funeral. I told her she'd get no more than $3K or so for the bike as it was and offered to fix it up and help sell it. So that's what I have done. I have gone through it pretty extensively. I had a spare Podtronics reg/rec and that fixed the charging system which still had the original selenium rectifier and zener diode. I'm not charging her.

The N15CS has a low compression (7.5:1) engine which was converted to a single carb - Mikuni VM34. The engine is solid mounted. I wanted it to be a 'loper' not a 'zinger' so I geared it tall. It worked out great, it's a no-hurry bike that doesn't vibrate terribly. I ride it all the time. The Commando is a different beast. It loves revs, and once you hit 2500 the Isolastic mounts take over. It is smooth as glass, despite all the vibrating/racket the engine is making. It has the original twin leading shoe brake, which works fine. But I put a disc brake from a '73 Commando on my N15CS and it's better. The Commando hustles, the N15CS saunters.

The market is weak right now, Norton guys are ageing out. I want to get the widow a good price and would buy it except for my financial situation. I am just doing this to help a person out who has suffered a great loss and would probably be ripped off.  I think I can get her a fair price, and it shall happen soon.

Oh, notice how the engine in the N15CS is upright, and the Commandos is canted forward? Easy to do because the engine and transmission are separate (non-unit construction). The inboard countershaft sprocket (with the kickstart shaft going inside the center, to the clutch, then the primary chain to the engine sprocket) is complicated and painful to service and adjust. Seems like the British steel is much longer-lived, thankfully, so the sprocket replacement interval is longer. The rear sprocket is integral to the brake drum, and is >$200 to replace. Wow.  All of the steel and alumni(i)um on the British bikes seems to be a grade above Japanese stuff. That is a blessing because the bikes are decades behind, being mid 1930's era designs, in reality.

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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2730 on: May 09, 2025, 02:10:57 PM »
I've got the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride coming up in Detroit weekend after this one, so I took my '76 Goldwing on an extended ride, just to be sure she was all woken up form the winter layover.  Happy to say she ran like a top.

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« Reply #2731 on: May 09, 2025, 02:33:46 PM »
I've got the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride coming up in Detroit weekend after this one, so I took my '76 Goldwing on an extended ride, just to be sure she was all woken up form the winter layover.  Happy to say she ran like a top.



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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2732 on: July 06, 2025, 09:56:38 AM »
Yesterday took the T700 out on the Johnny Appleseed Trail, Central MA - great day for trails!






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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2733 on: July 07, 2025, 06:35:23 PM »
Love the Wing. One of the most underrated bikes.
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2734 on: July 09, 2025, 02:12:38 AM »
Scrubbing in a new front Shinko (near Poowong East, Victoria, Australia) on my CBX



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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2735 on: July 09, 2025, 07:40:48 AM »
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2736 on: July 09, 2025, 08:29:55 AM »
Scrubbing in a new front Shinko (near Poowong East, Victoria, Australia) on my CBX





Trevor,which model Shinko tires are those ?
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« Reply #2737 on: July 09, 2025, 05:22:27 PM »
Took my 1988 VMax out for a 60 mile ride yesterday, only 10 deg C (50 deg F) so it was just a quick ride, but enjoyable. ;D

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« Reply #2738 on: July 09, 2025, 05:38:35 PM »
Took my 1988 VMax out for a 60 mile ride yesterday, only 10 deg C (50 deg F) so it was just a quick ride, but enjoyable. ;D

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Terry, that's a Monster bike.  8)
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2739 on: July 09, 2025, 05:57:25 PM »
Took my 1988 VMax out for a 60 mile ride yesterday, only 10 deg C (50 deg F) so it was just a quick ride, but enjoyable. ;D

VMax Wednesday 9 July 2025 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Terry, that's a Monster bike.  8)

Thanks Bill, it’s my current favourite, at least until my ‘81 GPZ1100 is ready to go. It’s a beast, I amused myself by seeing how long I could hold it at 100 MPH on the country roads I was riding until I chickened out, and it wasn’t long. The Hayabusa front brakes are awesome, I’m glad that Spotty recommended them, a huge improvement over stock. ;D
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2740 on: July 09, 2025, 07:32:57 PM »
Terry, the GPz1100 is going to be Fun to motor around on  :)
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2741 on: July 10, 2025, 08:22:23 PM »
Terry, the GPz1100 is going to be Fun to motor around on  :)

Thanks Bill, yeah I’m looking forward to it. Carbs are stripped and in the ultrasonic cleaner and cam cover is getting a coat of paint, and tomorrow we’ll tackle the shims, and hopefully fire it up. Then new tyres, brakes serviced and all the little electronic stuff. It’s coming along nicely. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2742 on: July 11, 2025, 04:28:59 AM »
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2744 on: July 11, 2025, 02:00:31 PM »
Took my 1988 VMax out for a 60 mile ride yesterday, only 10 deg C (50 deg F) so it was just a quick ride, but enjoyable. ;D

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Beautiful! I was lucky to travel around Japan on one  8)
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2745 on: July 19, 2025, 07:10:12 PM »
Took my 1988 VMax out for a 60 mile ride yesterday, only 10 deg C (50 deg F) so it was just a quick ride, but enjoyable. ;D

VMax Wednesday 9 July 2025 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Beautiful! I was lucky to travel around Japan on one  8)

Thanks Andy, they're an awesome "Hooligan Bike", it's really hard to ride them responsibly, so I don't try... ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #2746 on: July 21, 2025, 02:16:23 PM »
Looks bad a$$!
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2747 on: July 21, 2025, 04:32:56 PM »
Today I had the 77' KZ 1000LTD out for a romp. It's a rocket and I love how it sounds.
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Re: Let's see your non-SOHC4 on the road
« Reply #2748 on: July 27, 2025, 10:45:16 AM »
Yesterday at 7:30am out on the western side of of Massachusetts Rt2 about 108 miles into a 404 mile day. I had all of Rt2 to myself.

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« Reply #2749 on: July 27, 2025, 11:55:05 AM »
Yesterday at 7:30am out on the western side of of Massachusetts Rt2 about 108 miles into a 404 mile day. I had all of Rt2 to myself.

Did you go beyond Greenfield(intersects I91 N&S),then on the way past Shelburne Falls?  :)
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