No problem Greg, I totally understand, picking up GZ on Saturday would have been out of convenience, I would much rather see him travel farther into the PWN and then south again where I could give him a ride on my CB550 instead. If no one from the PWN speaks up, and GZ ends up in a box for shipment, I like the idea of sending him to brooze in Ontario, sounds like lots of folks were skipped this year, so it seems fair to give those who want a turn a chance, lots of nice riding weather left in the year, maybe Northern California will still get an opportunity later on.