Topic: Apple Rant

[Bailgang]

I love this rant: Bill Burr on Steve Jobs, the Conan Show. Easy to tell Conan is an Apple fan. I prefer Burr's take.

I'd have to agree with him because while Jobs was the thinker/dreamer, it was Apples co founder Steve Wozniak that was the doer that made his ideas a reality not to mention numerous other tech wizards to follow after Wozniak left.

[fendersrule]

I love this rant: Bill Burr on Steve Jobs, the Conan Show. Easy to tell Conan is an Apple fan. I prefer Burr's take.

I'd have to agree with him because while Jobs was the thinker/dreamer, it was Apples co founder Steve Wozniak that was the doer that made his ideas a reality not to mention numerous other tech wizards to follow after Wozniak left.

Steve Wozniak does deserve lots of praise. I've even met and chatted with him for a couple of hours and had some coffee with him...fantastic human being. But without Steve Jobs, nothing would have happened. You need a dreamer, someone who can think into the future, and connect all the dots, and captain the ship.

How am I an Apple fanboi when I said that Apple isn't what it used to be? Yea, I'm a huge fanboy. Not quite a kid anymore, though I wish I still was young.

Apple is still miles ahead of Microsoft, who still can't build a good OS since XP (even that had its share of woes). I won't even begin to mention my occupation and field of study. Apple has been making some very "Microsoft" decisions lately with their new OS. Like the stupid Software Update popup which is obnoxious, and I hate that the OS is slowly turning into iOS which sometimes automatically zooms my screen when using my mouse.

But even with these few new problems, I've never had to reformat my hard drive with a Mac, ever. I've done some severe overclocking with them, too and my modded-by-solder method DP 1.5GHz MDD POwerMac G4 has been a reliable shop computer quite some time now. Zero viruses. Zero slow downs.

PCs have their place. Use to build them all the time for the community. Now, I want a computer that works. I don't want a toy that I have to fix periodifically, so I've been Mac for the past 6 years, and haven't looked back since.

Android makes great phones. I don't get involved in the iPhone vs Droid bs. They are both great phones and each are great, and each suffer from some drawbacks.

[Bailgang]

Dare I say Linux or am I just adding fuel to the flame? 

[70CB750]

I already said it

[LesterPiglet]

No matter what OS it can be tailored to your needs. Apple wants everything their way.

[333]

More like salt on an open wound.

Look, I've had experience with all three options mentioned.  I started out on an Apple III( a computer without an operating system until loaded from a 5 1/4 floppy), then Macs.  Truly, when Microsoft introduced W95, they started to pull ahead of Mac as far as ease of use. I switched to MS, and haven't seriously looked back.  The wife's office still dabbles in Mac. She currently has a Mac laptop, and my daughter has used them since college. Her degree is in film/video, and Macs are still the best for that.  And for the past two years, I've tried to learn Ubuntu Studio, but can't seem to figure out even the simplest of tasks.

So, by all means, go Linux.  Just be prepared to re-learn everything you know about computers.

[LesterPiglet]

Or Atari They had apple snuffed.

[BobbyR]

I tagged along. What a nightmare! First thing I noticed there was one techie for every two customers in the place. I thought perhaps to provide premiere sevice. Wrong! We finally get to speak to one and her first suggestion was that we "call" the Apple help line. Trying to speak and hear was virtually impossible over the din in the store.

If you knew how crappy they pay those people you would be shocked. I started using a Kindle Fire this year. I love it.

[CBGhia]

I want to preface this with " I own a mac, but my main computer at home is a PC".   

I do tech support for a living.  Because of doing tech support, I hate Macs.    It works like this.  "Here is your computer, you can do whatever you want to do with it as long as we want you to do it". 

"I would like Safari to allow pop-ups for site a and site b, but not for the rest of the web please" NO! It is on or off, no exceptions.   

"I would like Safari to allow cookies at sohc4,et so that I don't have to log in every 5 minutes, but not keep all cookies"  No!  All or none.  No exceptions!

"I know you don't like the latest version of Java and have blocked it, but I have project due and it is a java based application, please allow it" NO! We decide what risks you can take, but don't worry, Macs can't get virus'.   "Really, then why are you blocking Java?"  Fuk u.

Oh and you can get the same machine for half the price with Microsoft. You can even install a hackintosh OS if you want. And it won't be SOL agter 2 years (remember PowerPC Macs?)  But I never have issues with my home computer (PC).  When you adjust for percentage of users, we get more calls on Macs than PC, but mostly because everyone buys one for grandma moses because "They are so easy to use".   

[Retro Rocket]

Yeah, nothing wrong with PC's, mine was new with windows 7, no problems at all in nearly 4 years at all, and by the way, I've had PC's for more years than i care to admit, with good antivirus you should NEVER get a virus, I've never had one and doubt i ever will, and i surf everything.... ....

[70CB750]

Yes, Ghia, that's the black box approach I meant.  The interface with experienced user or an expert is pushed much further out than on PC.

333:  I worked with photoeditors, in that time likely the biggest crowd of photoeditors in the world in one office - 65 or so - and they all used had both, pc and mac on the desk.

[Bailgang]

So, by all means, go Linux.  Just be prepared to re-learn everything you know about computers.

+1

You have to be a bit of a comp geek or at least be a bit daring to play with Linux. I've got Ubuntu on my 2nd HD but haven't been able to boot  up into it since my kid rebuilt my comp, 

[krusty]

I miss my Atari 400 which I upgraded from 8k to 16k. Yes K not meg or gig.
I'm happy with Windows 8 on my desktop (non touch screen) and upgraded my netbook to W8 from XP and it now runs faster, boots faster and is easier on the battery.
Oh, and I miss my Atari ST too.

[CycleRanger]

But even with these few new problems, I've never had to reformat my hard drive with a Mac, ever. I've done some severe overclocking with them, too and my modded-by-solder method DP 1.5GHz MDD PowerMac G4 has been a reliable shop computer quite some time now. Zero viruses. Zero slow downs.

Heh, I did that same mod. OC'd my Dual 1.25 to 1.4Ghz.  Still running reliably after 10 years! 
(Although I did have to replace the power supply last year. Probably because because of the four HD's and two optical drives, wireless and USB PCI card I've been using the whole time!)
I work at Motorola (now Freescale) in the group that used to supply G4's to Apple.

[CBGhia]

It really is a shame what Apple did with the PPC. They just quit and then all of the app developers did too.  XP is just now being dropped after 13 years, but you can still get updated browsers, flash and java for it. Not so with anything PPC based. 
Any of you antique mac guys (looking at you CycleRanger) use TenFourFox browser?  It is based on the latest Firefox, but runs on 10.4 where Firefox gave up after 3.6.  3.6 does not work well with heavily javascripted pages, or with new script at all, and Safari 4 is a joke.

[Jay Ace]

Apple stores used to be a lot better IMO. Last couple of times I went there it was pretty embarrassing but that is only because I am comparing it to what it used to be several years ago. Still better than any other store. Stores are only as good as the people that work there. Apple does have some really stupid policies for purchasing things online and picking it up in the store.

On the side note, I think a lot of people assume that because iOS is sort of closed off that their computers are too. I see comments online all the time about how you can't run non-Apple apps on Mac ... These people have no idea what they are talking about.

Anyway, I have job security because I support Windows based systems ... they break a lot 

[CycleRanger]

It really is a shame what Apple did with the PPC. They just quit and then all of the app developers did too.  XP is just now being dropped after 13 years, but you can still get updated browsers, flash and java for it. Not so with anything PPC based. 
Any of you antique mac guys (looking at you CycleRanger) use TenFourFox browser?  It is based on the latest Firefox, but runs on 10.4 where Firefox gave up after 3.6.  3.6 does not work well with heavily javascripted pages, or with new script at all, and Safari 4 is a joke.

Meh, in truth PPC was a dead end for Apple. I don't blame them one bit for going to Intel.
Neither Motorola or IBM could ever deliver on the speed and low-power they promised.

Yeah I use 104Fox. It's slow but mostly compatible.

[fendersrule]

But even with these few new problems, I've never had to reformat my hard drive with a Mac, ever. I've done some severe overclocking with them, too and my modded-by-solder method DP 1.5GHz MDD PowerMac G4 has been a reliable shop computer quite some time now. Zero viruses. Zero slow downs.

Heh, I did that same mod. OC'd my Dual 1.25 to 1.4Ghz.  Still running reliably after 10 years! 
(Although I did have to replace the power supply last year. Probably because because of the four HD's and two optical drives, wireless and USB PCI card I've been using the whole time!)
I work at Motorola (now Freescale) in the group that used to supply G4's to Apple.

That is awesome! Glad to hear a fellow PPCer..someone that actually worked for Motorola!!

The revision B chips were the best, by far. The revision A chips were a little too unstable to toy with. Best not to mess with them. You can maybe bump them up a notch, but I've done MANY revision B 1.25GHz chips to 1.5GHz without any cooling mods. I've seen them go higher with cooling mods. Many years and no problems with any of the machines that I've done this too. Bumping a revision b 1.25GHz to 1.5GHz only requires removing a solder if I remember correctly....pretty simple to do. Gotta have the copper heatsink though!

I've gone as far to flash a couple 7800GS OCs graphics cards, too. Man, I LOVE G4s (the good G4s...DP 1.25GHz and the DP 1.42GHz). Sure, the Intel transition landed Apple in a much better place, but the PPCs have a special place in my heart. Many Apple games will ONLY run on G4s. Stuff that requires native OS9 will need to have a G4, too. I just want to keep the G4 forever.

The G4 is a very special chip. It kicked the piss out of Intel back in the day. 2mb cache per die...that's what the Core2Duos had when they eventually floruished (IMO, the best processor of all time)....but Motorola did that much earlier than Intel. The bus speeds lacked, but even with a G4, you can still juggle between 20 different apps at once with no slowdown. No PC back in the day could do that. L2 cache for the fugging win. Motorola had a phenomenal design that I don't think gets a lot of credit.

[fendersrule]

"I would like Safari to allow pop-ups for site a and site b, but not for the rest of the web please" NO! It is on or off, no exceptions.   

"I would like Safari to allow cookies at sohc4,et so that I don't have to log in every 5 minutes, but not keep all cookies"  No!  All or none.  No exceptions!

"I know you don't like the latest version of Java and have blocked it, but I have project due and it is a java based application, please allow it" NO! We decide what risks you can take, but don't worry, Macs can't get virus'.   "Really, then why are you blocking Java?"  Fuk u.

Oh and you can get the same machine for half the price with Microsoft. You can even install a hackintosh OS if you want. And it won't be SOL agter 2 years (remember PowerPC Macs?)  But I never have issues with my home computer (PC).  When you adjust for percentage of users, we get more calls on Macs than PC, but mostly because everyone buys one for grandma moses because "They are so easy to use".   

I have NEVER had Safari block a Popup that was necessary for any webpage that I have visited and I've had my Apple through many transitions in my life. Never once had Safari ever been a problem, even with cookies or JAVA. Plus, you can download other browsers if you wanted to customize. The only problem I've heard is certain applications at work don't work so well on Mac, but that isn't Apple's fault.

Apple has been intel for a damned long time. I know some people who are still using their CoreDuo iMacs. I'm still using a 2008 Mac Pro and have no reason or rhyme to upgrade. The "obsolete" thing is a myth. Do you know who actually made USB a mainstream in computers?

Back in my PC heydays, I kept f*#ing with my PC and upgrading parts. Sure, it was fun as a hobby and toy, but in the long run you spend just as much as you would with a stout Mac. Resale value? Good luck selling a PC. You'll get nothing. At least with Apple you can get quite a bit of money back.

Keep in mind that the average user doesn't want to "customize" that much. That's the problem with Windows. It also expects the user to have to fiddle around for hours getting the OS to behave like they want it. People don't want that. As I get older, I understand why it's so...my computer is a TOOL and not a hobby anymore. People want a computer with a good user experience from the moment they pull it out of the box. Apple's unboxing experience is pretty highly regarded as the best in the industry as well.