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Biffta,he aint a prick...Pricks are usefull!!
« on: August 13, 2006, 03:07:11 PM »
Well biffta, I went and read this gob#$%*es blog, and WHAT a gob #$%*e this arshole is.....
I live in wales Uk, and as a citizen reckoned i had the right to reply, and so I did,"The chief constable welcomes feedback to his blog"  WEll,he bloody well got it from me....So lads if I "disapear" I did it for all of us, so do ask questions/come looking for me wont you all?
The deal is this, he stated that he heard " a large number of motorcyclists" so I told him that we live in a democracy,Therefore, as he was one of two people (him and his misses, (probably a paid lady))
Then he was "In the minority" on his day out and as the motorcyclists were in the majority, HE should be banned from the national park. 
He then went on to say that "motorcyclists have been banned in germany form the parks"
I answered that  by stating that we dont allways agree with german policy and cited the case of germany trying to ban jews ,just as an example.
I concluded by trying to explain that if we restrict the movements and freedoms of the masses, then we might find ourselfs in a situation were they feel they have nothing left to lose...............

This guy ( and too many others like him) is dangerous to our brotherhood and general cause, which to the best of my belief is a harmless one.
Most of us just want the right to ride our motorcycles in peace, free from interference, free from any hassle, maybe the right to ride out into desolute and unpopulated places, to be free from the rat-race and civilisation, away from the urban sprawl.
To find solace in wild and untamed places, to contemplate, to think, to plan,and to rest at times.
maybe to camp out with our mates and have a laugh and a drink round a camp fire...
we dont wanna annoy anybody, and to this end we find unpopulated places out of residential areas,away from the throbbing masses..........
BUT, if we aint very ,very, very carefull, we will lose that right, not openly discussed and argued out loud,
No, by stealth and "back-door politics " and ridiculous "knee jerk" policies....
This aint paranoia, not by a long way,
we have had this year 42 seperate amendments to the criminal justice bill.......
seen stupid laws brought in that criminalise a child for throwing a snowball,
That punish an old man for protecting his property against a burgler who had over a hundred convictions.......
As a group for too long we have been "reactive" moaning when another freedom has been usurped,but doing little else,save crying in our beer.
It is time to be pro-active, to work together to save our freedoms, demanding off government for example concessions for riding a motorcycle, we use less fuel than 4X4's we take up less road space, make less emmissions, and create no congestion.....in this age of enviromental awareness, we should get applauded, especially us classic crew--- we RECYCLE,we rejuvenate the old, rather then having to create the new out of diminishing resources, were's OUR award and tax break for that ?
We should be demanding an incentive, not taking it up the ass.
In the UK, they want us all were they can see us... on camera, frightened in our homes in front of the telly, scared of some perceived "terrorists threat" , in our place, and accounted for.
I cant do that one, in aint in me, i need to be free, I tried for a while, but it went wrong!
The night fire beckons, under the silver moon,   with  the wind in my hair on the way there, and on the way back.
I reckon thats worth fighting for,
The chief #$%*stable of wales apparently does not.
Is anyone on my side?











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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2006, 03:29:28 PM »
KC you never mentioned me in your reply did you? Only I never did have a good relationship with the North Wales police, I was only posting his views which I thought was a bit OTT   :o

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2006, 05:50:11 PM »
KC! What a piece of writing, man! Brilliant! You should take it up as a profession...take it from me, I'm a Reader and I know what I'm talking about  ;D

Such an arc - and then to drop this phrase in at the end
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We should be demanding an incentive, not taking it up the ass.

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2006, 06:06:23 PM »
Good points all.

Lets not forget the reason for the policemans rant. His 'day' was spoiled by a few motorcycles with (probably) non-stock exhausts; he, as many of the non-riding public are wont to do, then made the 2 + 2 = 5 calculation....... all I hear are the motorcycles that are noisy, therefore all motorcycles are bad.

I wonder how his 'day' would have been if all of the motorcycles which were in his vicinity had totally stock exhausts.

Likewise, a few riders who (with all the press about what's going on in certain parts of Wales) should know better than to ride irresponsibly, do so anyway and give the rest a bad name.

Yes, we need to be vigilant about the slow encroachment of the nanny state. But we also need to educate other riders that if they want to maintain a high profile, either by the noise they make or by the way that they ride, it is better to be discrete in places where there might be issues of public sensitivity.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2006, 06:09:31 PM »
you're assuming that they weren't stock exhausts...why?

the exhausts on many sportbikes are annoying and loud when they are winding out - if you are trying to enjoy "your" quiet day in nature...
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2006, 06:32:13 PM »
you're assuming that they weren't stock exhausts...why?

Just on the basis that when you read the UK motorcycle press it seems to be de-rigeur to make muffler replacement as job #1. Last time I was over there I was amazed at how many bikes had non-stock mufflers.

Yes, you are right, when you hear someone wailing on the gas with a sportbike with stock mufflers the sound can be very annoying.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2006, 07:01:54 PM »
KC_F2.
Perdantic Coppers.
Well being a Welshman by birth Bridgend '46 nand only have been there in 98 I often wonder what happened to all the strong Welsh characters.  Richard Burton Tommy Farr to mention a few.
I bet the Plod was in no frame of mindwith bikes he probably could not spell BSA.
I can imaging that he watches "The Bill" and the other Plod show where they have Ford Anglias etc.
Imaging the scene at the pub on a saturday night where they where the policemans best coat and tie and slurp one pint glasses of warm free beer and have a attitude problem where as he thinks he is top gun of Wales!! as in country.
Crazy place is Wales from when I can remember it
But I would love to ride my Honda CB750 K5 around there providing it does not rain too much.
But again give a Copper a brain and he thinks he was born some one else.
Reminds me of a situation in Australia when i was young Dumband full of Cum.
We (5) in a Holden (Aussie6 cyl car) were pulled ove by a Highway patrol in Canberra .
The ever so polite copper askd me as the semi sober driver what sort of muffler i had under the car ( It was a noisy car).
The clown mate of mine in the back stuck his head out of the window into the pissing down rain and yelled at Mr Plod
 "Get down in the mud and have a look ya mug??"
Takes all kinds.

Good Luck indeed.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2006, 09:25:22 PM »
Me, I like to rape and pillage now and again.  It's the only exercise I get anymore.  A man my age needs to stay active.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2006, 10:20:16 PM »
taking it up the ass. Love it!

(Mental note to Terry, don't bend over near CBJ....................) ;D
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2006, 10:44:27 PM »
 ;D i know you've been waiting a LOOOONG time for that one, Terry...
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2006, 04:55:19 AM »
This was posted by one of the girls on the VFR site.  It says the same as KC but (but in their own "language").

I liked it (esp the final para!) so thought I'd post it here:

"I am a biker, hopefully one of the 'responsible and courteous' majority the DCC recognises, but wishes to ban.

I won't argue against the DCC from a point of self-interest. Self-interest (the disturbance of his weekend by the noise of a minority of others enjoying theirs) appears to have led him to want to criminalise all motorcyclists in certain areas. And to ban other people from otherwise lawful activity simply because you do not 'like' what they do leads to the tyranny of the minority by the majority.

I wouldn't want to ban all fell walkers because a minority leave litter or allow their dogs to worry sheep. I wouldn't want to ban all caravan owners in rural areas like the Lake District and North Wales because a minority do not know how to tow vehicles properly and cause endless delays.

I wouldn't even - because I believe strongly in free speech - wish to ban police officers from making political statements on official police service web-sites, rather than leaving that type of thing to elected politicians, because I'm sure statements as ill thought-out as this are certainly in the minority...

With best wishes"
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2006, 02:49:08 PM »
This was posted by one of the girls on the VFR site.  It says the same as KC but (but in their own "language").

I liked it (esp the final para!) so thought I'd post it here:

"I am a biker, hopefully one of the 'responsible and courteous' majority the DCC recognises, but wishes to ban.

I won't argue against the DCC from a point of self-interest. Self-interest (the disturbance of his weekend by the noise of a minority of others enjoying theirs) appears to have led him to want to criminalise all motorcyclists in certain areas. And to ban other people from otherwise lawful activity simply because you do not 'like' what they do leads to the tyranny of the minority by the majority.

I wouldn't want to ban all fell walkers because a minority leave litter or allow their dogs to worry sheep. I wouldn't want to ban all caravan owners in rural areas like the Lake District and North Wales because a minority do not know how to tow vehicles properly and cause endless delays.

I wouldn't even - because I believe strongly in free speech - wish to ban police officers from making political statements on official police service web-sites, rather than leaving that type of thing to elected politicians, because I'm sure statements as ill thought-out as this are certainly in the minority...

With best wishes"

...and so say all of us!
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2006, 04:50:42 AM »
There were also a lot of abusive posts that were sent to the guy's blog - merely reinforcing his predjudice.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2006, 01:16:16 PM »
No Biffta, I did not mention you at all, no need to worry on that account, i just read the chief #$%*stables blog, and then VERY POLITELY put forward my opposition to all of his alleged reasoning.
Here is fact ( and maybe wisdom?) , when i was at school in the seventies, If one had a mindset to be a policeperson, then one had to work hard at ones exams and attain seven "O" levels, also, they had to be of reasonable grade,by that I mean "C" or above.
In the 1980's due to recruitment problems, They lowered this to five "o" levels, Then THREE!
Now it is so hard for them to get "new Fodder" that they are even accepting people with a previous criminal record albeit "minor"
Nobody, but nobody could have a worse "relationship" with the welsh police than me, It got so bad at one point a few years back, that EVERY time me and the misses went into town in the car for our food shopping or to go to the post-office, we were stopped, the car was searched and so were we,if nothing was found, they took us in to the local nick, and searched us some more......( not that they EVER found anything, save the odd speck of "green - tobacco"
They obviousely thought that strip-searching me causes me embarresment or shame, and to stop it happening again, I would confess to things I hadn't done,go home watch telly, quiver in fear every time i saw plod, and be a "good boy" and never do it again, OH ,and not go out for fear of a terrorist attack ,probably.
BUT, ( as I well knew) In the Uk, in police stations, They are not allowed to make you totally nude while strip searching you by law.....This leads to a stupid situation,where first they ask you to take off your pants ( but leave your shirt / top on) then you put your pants back on and they ask you to take off your top, and the whole "looking down the sleeves for counterfeit, (keystone caper style)  " starts again..

However, I have NO issues with my body, I got what i was born with, cannot change it, have accepted it, and cannot be embarressed at all ,not even in front of masses of people.
Also, I have many genital piercings......................
So, when they would ask me to take off my strides, as they looked in the pockets and down the legs,I would quickly pull off my top ( whilst they were busy) and standing there suddenly ( and to them unexpectedly) naked, I would grab the end of my wibble, ( thats foreskin in the USA I believe) and stretch it as far towards them as I could, ( showing all the piercings off a tad too well for their particular inclinations) And shout out " IS THIS what you really wanted to see?" ( I must stress here quite catergorically, (just for the record) that it was not "uncommenly unclean nor unusual in appearence or length.)

I swear to god, this never failed, It had more off a "back off" affect than a gun or a knife.
They allways backed away, and allways panicked, urging me to get me clothes back on, and this is because given an unexpected situation that they had not encountered before, chaos  reigned.
They hadn't had "training" for this. ( remember the whole Three "o" levels that they got, well even calling on all of that knowledge didn't appear to help)
Someone would panic BECAUSE i was totally nude, and this is against the rules ( probably in case they get turned on and have the urge to commit acts of sodomy upon you)
Someone else would panic because there was a "todger" becoming a tad too close for comfort,and getting nearer, and he didnt want his mates to think that (a.) it had "touched" him or worse (b.) he had touched it. ( And would say so in the police canteen at dinnertime for example)
Someone else would panic because of the piercings, their eyes would noticeably bulge in horror at the thought of stainless steel rods through their own privet parts and cringe.........This often resulted in one or more of them putting one hand over their own parts ( as if to PROTECT them) with the other hand over their mouth while feigning sickness, and making a noise like "aooorrach or "uuuur"
Anyways, it allways confused / spoilt the "search"procedure for them. And it genuinely upset a few of them too.
Once, one of them sat down with me ( before i was let out) and informed me him and his mates didn't enjoy their dinner that day, and did I know that if I was to remove the piercings the holes would close
up and "things would get better down there!"
"Oh, really?" ( I toyed with the idea of asking if that meant i would grow an extra two - to three inches, but this guy was visably shaken,and appeared quite nervous, possibly he was angling for being pensioned off on incapacity benefits. ( a common and growing trend that helps diminish their numbers)
As I type, Their is a news item on the telly, the police are asking for powers to take and crush peoples cars WITHOUT the need to go to court.......AND to "Fine people on the spot" for "Loutish behaviour"
And the powers to disperse from town centres ( where NEXT?) people that are being loud and or aggresive, with NO recourse to the courts or the justice system.....Just on "THE polices "say so"

Yes, it could be YOUR car that has been stolen, had its number plates changed, and is then crushed by the old bill, because the thief cannot produce his documents...........

There are allready laws in the UK to take care of ALL the above situations, with DUE PROCESS, through the courts, If we let the police get more "back door powers" we will be living under a military junta...Where we have No recourse to justice....

Our statutes can be traced back to ancient and well thought out principals, and the laws of the lands are based upon a solid foundation of democracy and recourse to justice, and one basic premise has stood the test of time very well indeed and that is this.......;
In the UK, you may consider ANYTHING to be legal , EXCEPT IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST IT.
BUT, The police are trying their hardest, (through means fair and FOUL) to have it so that "You may ONLY do what they PERMIT, REGARDLESS of the laws of the land, and that , is a very different premise indeed.
And again, " your apathy is their best weapon" in this campaign of theirs.








 

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2006, 01:29:26 PM »
kaceyf2, that has to be about the most interesting post I have ever read on any forum, anywhere. Not sure if I should thank you for sharing.....!

I'm not a conspiracy theory kind of person, but I wonder, having heard of people who seem to be pulled over far more often than average, whether the plod keep a short list of 'suspects' and their reg. numbers, and make it their duty to stop them at every opportunity.....
« Last Edit: August 15, 2006, 01:52:51 PM by nickjtc »
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2006, 03:01:13 PM »
Thanks, I do like to relate amusing exploits, especially if folk are getting too serious and or down.
Unfortunately, it is not the reg of my vehicle that the old bill are responding too,all my vehicles are ( and allways have been) totally legal in every aspect, they HAVE to be here in wales!
SADLY, it is something that i have very little control over.....MY FACE that attracts the welsh gestapo's interest. It is the sort of face that screams out loud to them " Here be criminality" and nothing could be further from the truth. If I wear a suit and tie, then i look like a criminal in a suit and tie. If i have a haircut
( which i did once when i was at school and me step-dad made me) I look like a criminal with a haircut. If i have a shave, I just look like a criminal on his way to court..
For some unknown reason that defies rational, the police think I am allways "up - to - something" and that the something in question, is of the "No - good "variety. Oh well.....






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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2006, 03:27:53 PM »
SADLY, it is something that i have very little control over.....MY FACE that attracts the welsh gestapo's interest. It is the sort of face that screams out loud to them " Here be criminality" and nothing could be further from the truth. If I wear a suit and tie, then i look like a criminal in a suit and tie. If i have a haircut
( which i did once when i was at school and me step-dad made me) I look like a criminal with a haircut. If i have a shave, I just look like a criminal on his way to court..
For some unknown reason that defies rational, the police think I am allways "up - to - something" and that the something in question, is of the "No - good "variety. Oh well.....

Perhaps they have to do a certain number of interrogations per shift and if they harass people who 'look' like they 'may' be 'bad' it makes the job much easier. Heaven forbid that they should be looking for real criminals.
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