Author Topic: If Honda could've done any better... (Read 25930 times)

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #125 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:16:08 PM »

Quote from: 754 on September 10, 2013, 09:02:50 AM

We dont care how they like it in Oz and the Nederland......

What a dumb post Frank, well done....

This is an International forum so who's we and who appointed you their spokesman.....?

754 · « **Reply #126 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:14:27 PM »

Who appointed anyone? Someone from Holland comes on, says Honda got the seating position wrong.. I happen to disagree
Is he the spokesman? Am I? Are You ?

Maybe you never saw the stickers before,but a lot of people dont care how they do it somewhere else..live with it..

Killer Canary · « **Reply #127 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:54:32 PM »

It's the north american mind-set, Retro. If you ever come for a visit, leave your brain at home.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #128 on:** September 10, 2013, 04:36:13 PM »

Quote from: Deltarider on September 10, 2013, 10:31:48 AM

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We dont care how they like it in Oz and the Nederland......
We? WE? Is that pluralis majestatis speak? Or is it 'We' as in 'We the people... ' ?

Ummm, yeah I do care how they like it in Oz and the Nederland, (and no I am not part of the great American "we"), because they get good bikes where the riding position is not designed to mimic a Harley Davidson.

Stev-o · « **Reply #129 on:** September 10, 2013, 05:04:05 PM »

Quote from: seanbarney41 on September 10, 2013, 04:36:13 PM

Quote from: Deltarider on September 10, 2013, 10:31:48 AM
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We dont care how they like it in Oz and the Nederland......
We? WE? Is that pluralis majestatis speak? Or is it 'We' as in 'We the people... ' ?
Ummm, yeah I do care how they like it in Oz and the Nederland, (and no I am not part of the great American "we"), because they get good bikes where the riding position is not designed to mimic a Harley Davidson.

"We [Texans] don't care how you [Michiganders] did back home!"

70CB750 · « **Reply #130 on:** September 10, 2013, 05:58:50 PM »

Speaking for foreigners, I don't give a hoot, what you as the whole group or/and as individuals think or feel. The best oil is Mobil anyway.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #131 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:26:31 PM »

Quote from: 70CB750 on September 10, 2013, 05:58:50 PM

Speaking for foreigners, I don't give a hoot, what you as the whole group or/and as individuals think or feel. The best oil is Mobil anyway.

scunny · « **Reply #132 on:** September 11, 2013, 12:52:27 AM »

the 750 was a wide hipped farm girl, the 550 didn't have the panache of the 500.
the 400 and 350's were nice wee bikes but lacked any guts. In my humble foreign voice I miss my 500's but the 650 motor is much better(in standard form).

ride what you like, they have all got there shortfalls and good points.

and yes I have been drinking.

70CB750 · « **Reply #133 on:** September 11, 2013, 02:50:57 AM »

Me likes farm girls

robvangulik · « **Reply #134 on:** September 11, 2013, 03:06:15 AM »

Fortunately Honda DID give a hoot and made their bikes different for different countries and riding styles.
What they could have done better?
The rear shocks were worldwide known as bicyclepumps, replacing those with better quality items improved the bikes as a whole.
But to be honest, even after all these years the SOHC series are still known for their overal build quality, and even Honda won't have expected to have so many of these still on the road on a regular basis!

PeWe · « **Reply #135 on:** September 11, 2013, 03:27:24 AM »

The Phillips Head Screw, a real PITA!
Why not allen screws from the very beginning?

Torx even better (developed in 1967 by Camcar Textron). The tool get better grip when apply torque.

70CB750 · « **Reply #136 on:** September 11, 2013, 03:36:46 AM »

Quote from: PeWe on September 11, 2013, 03:27:24 AM

The Phillips Head Screw, a real PITA!
Why not allen screws from the very beginning?

Torx even better (developed in 1967 by Camcar Textron). The tool get better grip when apply torque.

Allen screws yes, but Torx are POS. The Jeep production for some reason uses torx head in many places and they are major PITA. Like the roll cage bolted in with Torx - you dont stand a chance, the wrench will get chewed up and bolt stays.

While working on the jeep, I had sockets from local HW store and they would replace wrench without question - I replaced the gd torx 4 times and gave up and started grinding. Allen head is much better.

Magilla · « **Reply #137 on:** September 11, 2013, 04:10:42 AM »

Enclosed chain - My Benly was supposed to have one but back in the day they were such a PITA that the first time a tire was changed the chain guard was pulled off and thrown away. they are very hard to come by now.

I use to own a 1983 HD FXRT and that had an enclosed chain. They last for a long time but suck when maintaining your bike.

PeWe · « **Reply #138 on:** September 11, 2013, 06:37:33 AM »

Quote from: 70CB750 on September 11, 2013, 03:36:46 AM

Quote from: PeWe on September 11, 2013, 03:27:24 AM
The Phillips Head Screw, a real PITA!
Why not allen screws from the very beginning?

Torx even better (developed in 1967 by Camcar Textron). The tool get better grip when apply torque.

Allen screws yes, but Torx are POS. The Jeep production for some reason uses torx head in many places and they are major PITA. Like the roll cage bolted in with Torx - you dont stand a chance, the wrench will get chewed up and bolt stays.

While working on the jeep, I had sockets from local HW store and they would replace wrench without question - I replaced the gd torx 4 times and gave up and started grinding. Allen head is much better.

OK, my experience of torxs is the smaller screws. T15-T30 screwdriver tool. Never had a problem. Mostly industrial robots with the control system.
Anyway, allen heads should have been fine :-)

Magilla · « **Reply #139 on:** September 11, 2013, 06:41:38 AM »

Once the socket head cap screw (Allen head) was invented, why would anyone use a Philips head or a Torx? It is hard to strip a SHCS and it is easy to strip the others.

Before you correct me, I said hard not impossible. Read it, read it again and relax. I don't need any hate mail telling me about "the time you stripped one". We've all done it but I stand by the fact that it is harder to strip one of these.

strynboen · « **Reply #140 on:** September 11, 2013, 06:44:59 AM »

my cd 50 have also closed chain box

Deltarider · « **Reply #141 on:** September 11, 2013, 07:46:59 AM »

Question is: is a closed chain box the same as an oilbath chain box?

Deltarider · « **Reply #142 on:** September 11, 2013, 10:06:55 AM »

Please, what is 'Fergy'? I'm from ~~Barcelona~~ Amsterdam.

jgmmgood · « **Reply #143 on:** September 11, 2013, 11:49:04 AM »

Some good opinions here and interesting to read through all the thoughts.....Did anyone else notice that Lucky mentioned having a twin brother? That could be a new topic unto itself.
I am also still pondering the notion of a V twin single overhead cam on page 1, but I write it off as a mis-statement by Lucky or his twin. Carry on....

Stev-o · « **Reply #144 on:** September 11, 2013, 04:01:34 PM »

Quote from: Deltarider on September 11, 2013, 10:06:55 AM

Please, what is 'Fergy'? I'm from ~~Barcelona~~ Amsterdam.

This is Fergy!

Magilla · « **Reply #145 on:** September 11, 2013, 04:33:26 PM »

Quote from: Deltarider on September 11, 2013, 07:46:59 AM

Question is: is a closed chain box the same as an oilbath chain box?

Yes indeed.

750K · « **Reply #146 on:** September 11, 2013, 05:16:38 PM »

Quote from: rotortiller on September 11, 2013, 06:44:22 AM

Robertson all the way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._L._Robertson

Finding a Robertson on a car or bike is always a sign of bad things, robertsons are pretty much used for wood screws. As soon as I find one I always have to ask myself what else did the PO cobble together...

It is a great system, that I will agree on.

754 · « **Reply #147 on:** September 11, 2013, 09:16:51 PM »

For a chaincase to be oilbath, it must be fairly oil tight. So there could be chain covers that just keep chain cleaner and oil from dirtying the bike,that are not oil bath.
The latter is common on dutch bicycles and ladies bikes..

strynboen · « **Reply #148 on:** September 12, 2013, 07:20:45 AM »

on the small honda"s..the chain /cace..and thain wheel stays on the svingarm..when take the hweel off..its a easy turn to take it off..there are a rubber/tap konneksion from the hub to drive train..

bad that honda not used this for the bigger bikes..in kombinasion vith closed chaincase

dave500 · « **Reply #149 on:** September 12, 2013, 01:30:34 PM »

enclosed chains are for keeping your skirt from getting dragged into it.

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