Author Topic: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...  (Read 18280 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BLUE71TURBO

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,849
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2013, 11:49:49 PM »
Nelic, post yer question/ for sale post above in the " HIGH PERFORMANCE PARTS FOR SALE " category. More people will see it.   ;)
« Last Edit: September 16, 2013, 10:35:44 AM by BLUE71TURBO »
Remember; Before you can be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid !

Offline PeWe

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,540
  • Bike almost back to the 70's 2015
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

Offline FuZZie

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,222
  • If I is expert, I can has cheezburger?
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2013, 05:44:16 PM »

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,725
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2013, 07:12:40 PM »
Guess I got a "deal"! lol Bill ;D
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

Offline BLUE71TURBO

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,849
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2013, 09:14:47 PM »
 Buy it now for  $ 12,500.oo !!   :o   ::)    I think someone has a very big " PIPE DREAM ! ".   ;D ;D ;D
Remember; Before you can be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid !

Offline neal

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 42
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 01:24:35 AM »
I say Good Luck...I had almost the same bike frame for sale on this site..and got ZERO offers

Offline sohc boy

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 346
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 04:18:16 AM »
..YIKES ..$12,500.....
i live by the voice inside my head

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 34,259
  • Central Texas
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2013, 05:15:25 AM »
Buy it now for  $ 12,500.oo !!   :o   ::)    I think someone has a very big " PIPE DREAM ! ".   ;D ;D ;D

Hey Blue- A guy can dream, can't he?!
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........

Offline venicechoppers

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2013, 12:03:31 PM »
You have to admit, there are some 'dreamy' things about this bike....!

Offline BLUE71TURBO

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,849
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2013, 02:08:25 PM »
You have to admit, there are some 'dreamy' things about this bike....!

                   Yes i'll admit there are some nice parts about the bike, like the frame, the Webers, the Ceriani forks and the A.R.D. magneto.   ;)  8)     But as many find out, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  Good luck !   ;) :)
                   
Remember; Before you can be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid !

Offline BLUE71TURBO

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,849
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2013, 02:13:33 PM »
Buy it now for  $ 12,500.oo !!   :o   ::)    I think someone has a very big " PIPE DREAM ! ".   ;D ;D ;D

Hey Blue- A guy can dream, can't he?!

                       Yes Steve-o, a guy can dream all he wants.   ;)  I dream all the time.  Mostly nightmares !!   :o   ::)
Remember; Before you can be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid !

Offline FuZZie

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,222
  • If I is expert, I can has cheezburger?
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2013, 02:17:14 PM »
I'll lend you a hand.

first "clear title".... nope you state you don't have one bill of sale only.
and "It is in functional, as raced condition." but you state it doesn’t run?
"This is believed to be the first, and only surviving sandcast competition CB750 motorcycle on the planet."
If your going to make a claim like this you'll need to have a source of some kind? I'm sure it's rare but "only one" and "first" is a bit of a stretch to the reader otherwise.

Last is the price some knowledgeable people have made some guesses as to what to could go for are you even in the ballpark?


Last don't listen to me I don't know #$%*! It's your bike list it as you please.  :)   

 

Offline jaguar

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,763
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2013, 02:56:08 PM »
Stop calling it a sandcast bike....
The motor has a giant hole in it...
It's like saying that the original bike had a red tank on it and that's super valuable.

Personally I like the bike and wish it was priced back down here on early as I would like to own it.
But really it is a collection of some parts that slightly resemble a race bike

Offline venicechoppers

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2013, 03:39:28 PM »
Some valid opinions for sure.
As for title, well, like mileage, eBay makes you enter something. Hence the footnote. I should have chosen something other than 'clear'.
'Functional, as raced' is referring to the frame itself. Again, not clear, my bad, but can't change it without a whole new auction.
As for first and only remaining, that's my opinion. While I certainly wouldn't mind being proven wrong, anyone able to make that claim would have a highly prized possession.
And when is a sandcast not a sandcast? When you scratch the tank? Change a tire? Break a case? Just curious what the rules are. I'm never set out to #$%* in the sandbox, but it happens.

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2013, 03:44:37 PM »
What i saw was a small fixed hole in upper case. Not too bad,if so.
Interesting bike, be better if you could establish who and when built it and where it ran.
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline jaguar

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,763
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2013, 04:29:56 PM »
Internals of the motor would make a big difference in price too.

Anyone remember that alloy framed bike from about a year or two ago?
Was more a pile of parts then a bike.
Similar if not the same frame, webers, don't know if it had a mag on it or not.
Was missing a few bits.
Want to say it finally sold in the $2500-4k range after a few listings.

Offline venicechoppers

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2013, 04:31:23 PM »
What I have been told, just from some old timers that claim to know him, is Ralph Muldoon built the frame.
I was able to get Ralph's number this past weekend, I hope to swing by his shop and show it to him.
RC engineering is close by, but have yet to speak to Mr. Collins personally.
I do understand it's all about the provenance. eBay is a great way to cull information,and insight, on a bike like this.
If I wasn't so into this bike, and it's potential, I would be pleased with the highest bidder. I just think there is still more to be gained, not necessarily dollars, but some knowledge and history. The good stuff!

Offline venicechoppers

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2013, 04:37:13 PM »
That pile of parts was this bike. I reassembled it recently. Whats there is what i have. There are some missing pieces still.

Offline jaguar

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,763
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2013, 05:14:18 PM »
That pile of parts was this bike. I reassembled it recently. Whats there is what i have. There are some missing pieces still.

Ah.  Makes sense.  But then again it would not have surprised me if there were two alloy drag bikes in CA.
I remember that bike becase I wanted it then too

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 34,259
  • Central Texas
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2013, 06:00:07 PM »
That pile of parts was this bike. I reassembled it recently. Whats there is what i have. There are some missing pieces still.


Thanks for chiming in VC.  Where and when did you get the bike? Bought it as a basket case?

Don't take our comments personal, we're just jealous 'cause its not ours. 
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........

Offline scottly

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,268
  • Humboldt, AZ
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2013, 06:40:41 PM »

And when is a sandcast not a sandcast?
A sandcast has the most worth when it is attached to the numbers-correct frame, and wrinkle tank, ect. Any deviation from original condition detracts from the value. A restorer would place no value on the mag, the Webers, or the frame, and the RC stamping and damage to the case detracts from the value of the motor. The sandcast guys get anal about that stuff. ::)
Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
Helmets save brains. Always wear one and ride like everyone is trying to kill you....

Online Don R

  • My Sandcast is a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,838
  • Saver of unloved motorcycles.
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2013, 06:47:38 PM »
I've got a friend with an inline 4 Indian. It had a patch where a rod was poked through the case. he had it repaired and you can't see it now. Same with an Excelsior I saw a couple weeks ago. Repaired by the same guy. I'd take one to him in a minute.

Then I'd look for an appropriate number frame and build a sandy. Put a K whatever engine in the drag bike. But that's me.
No matter how many times you paint over a shadow, it's still there.
 CEO at the no kill motorcycle shop.
 You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Offline jaguar

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,763
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2013, 06:49:45 PM »
The speed parts have the value, not the way the engine cases were made in this case.
There is an intangible "cool" factor, but don't think it adds much cash value.

Offline scottly

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,268
  • Humboldt, AZ
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2013, 07:03:39 PM »

 I'd look for an appropriate number frame and build a sandy.
I agree. I really think in this case, the bike should be parted out, with the rolling frame, Webers, mag, and motor sold separately.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
Helmets save brains. Always wear one and ride like everyone is trying to kill you....

Offline jaguar

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,763
Re: R.C. ENGINEERING SANDCAST DRAGBIKE FOR SALE...
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2013, 07:10:14 PM »
Unfortunately in this case I don't think the whole is greater then the sum of its parts.