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Offline Imago

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What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« on: October 04, 2013, 07:37:52 PM »
I've been away for a while but have a chance to buy the bike in the attached photos.

It's a recently restored 1971 CB750K with an 836 kit. Three HM300's out of 4, new paint and decals. Looks very nice. Thoughts?
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 08:05:51 PM »
As Little as possible!
  That said I have no clue about Canadian bike prices but they seem High!
If its real nice I see 4500 to 7k US dollars.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2013, 08:26:47 PM »
Looks nice.
$4500-7k would be the norm here in the PNW for a restored bike.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2013, 10:40:51 AM »
It does look pretty good, not exactly stock I don't remember the yellow, maybe in Canada, the cases and front legs are polished and some would say that takes away from it.  I am in the VJMC and there was a guy who won best of show last year with a red K1 and this year with a green K1 at the West Coast rally, he is selling them for $10K each and mostly he purchased replacement OEM parts rather then using restored or repaired parts, like new gauges for instances rather than restoring the originals.  All that said I'm not sure he would actually get $10K?

It does appear the K1 has more aftermarket value then the later ones so I would sure go for it if the price was right!
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2013, 10:03:19 AM »
It does look pretty good, not exactly stock I don't remember the yellow, maybe in Canada, the cases and front legs are polished and some would say that takes away from it.  I am in the VJMC and there was a guy who won best of show last year with a red K1 and this year with a green K1 at the West Coast rally, he is selling them for $10K each and mostly he purchased replacement OEM parts rather then using restored or repaired parts, like new gauges for instances rather than restoring the originals.  All that said I'm not sure he would actually get $10K?

It does appear the K1 has more aftermarket value then the later ones so I would sure go for it if the price was right!
The owner says it's Candy Gold, but until I see it in person it's sometimes hard to tell from a photo. He's asking $4500.00 or less if I trade him for some bikes/parts I have.

Is there a link to a good example of Candy Gold I can compare to?

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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2013, 10:07:51 AM »
Looks great.  May be worth it.  Find out how built the motor is . Like see if it has good rods ,headwork, etc.  Or just basic 836..and find out how fresh it is ..
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2013, 10:17:22 AM »
candy gold is very difficult to photograph due to light affecting how it looks...it's also very difficult to reproduce or match.  Looks like whoever painted this one got it wrong...how wrong depends on how decieving those photos are...my 750 came out wrong too

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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2013, 12:13:50 PM »
Here are a couple shots of my stocker, Nick in Wi has a Goldie also. Color on yours looks pretty yellowish.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2013, 12:24:45 PM »
One thing
Left hand side cover lower edge by the mount prong is black on stock paint, this one appears not to be.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2013, 01:04:31 PM »
I would say the pic's the guys posted are the correct gold, I had a gold K0 back in the day.  Your pictures looked really yellow, that said one of them did kinda look gold, so like others have said you would really have to see it.  $4,500 sounds like a good price for a K1 but like 754 said it now comes down to condition, status of motor, etc.  I always get impressed when the seller shows me a bunch of receipts, maybe a journal of everything done.  I also look at his/her shop and how well things appear to be handled/organized, etc.

Another telling thing is going to be the difference in engine and frame serial numbers and to ensure the serial numbers are in the K1 series.  There is also a thousand different things, OK maybe 100 different things that make it a K1 versus a newer CB750, a Franken bike would have much less value.  You can arm yourself with allot of these facts before going to see the bike.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2013, 02:41:41 PM »
What's he asking for it ?    If you are buying it to ride and have some fun with, then I'd feel comfortable paying anywhere between $4-7k.

You'd have a hard time finding or building one comparable for that price range.   It's not what I'd call a show restoration, but it shows very, very well and looks like every nut and bolt was addressed.   Looks like a very clean, nice bike.   Find out more about the motor work if you can.

The advantge of restorations like that one is similar to that of cars - you, as the buyer, are usually getting it for less than the owner has in it.
You also don't have to go through the hassle of building, or finding a builder and then the time spent waiting or building.  You can enjoy it right away.

If you ride it and keep it clean and stored properly, you will NEVER lose money on that price if bought in that price range.

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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2013, 05:12:01 PM »
Greenjeans he said the guy was asking $4,500 or something less for trading some parts!
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2013, 05:26:16 PM »
It looks nice mate, and $4500 sounds like a good price too. I wouldn't worry about whether it's the correct shade of gold, who gives a rats arse anyway? As long as you like it, and if it's in good mechanical condition, then buy it. Cheers, Terry. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2013, 05:37:18 PM »
I notice he has the wide newer style clamps on the rubber hoses at the carb's that don't tend to seal well, but there are replacements available.  This would effect how well it idles I assume i.e. air leaks.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2013, 05:39:04 PM »
Sean is correct the angle and lighting can really effect the look... Here is mine. Then the light makes it look different in the second pic.. 3rd pic is of one I saw at the Slimey crud run today...

Can someone really sell one for 4500? Most would sell for that much but how many members would actually dough out the cash?

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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2013, 05:44:43 PM »
Honestly I'm thinking $4.5K for a K1 is a good price but maybe thats a west coast bias.  I do think things are less expensive as you move east.  Funny how that works, they all came from Los Angeles
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2013, 08:39:38 PM »
$3500 + some parts would be a good deal for both. 

The paint is wrong, I give a rats ass, Uncle Terry.  Reduces value. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »
I sent the owner these photos of this 1976 Frankenbike I have in my garage and he said he'd trade for it and $3700.00. I'm going on Friday to take a look at his '71. He said the paint on his was Honda Candy Gold from the House of Colour. My trade is a bit of a weird one... it runs, but the previous owner seemed to be interested more in Harleys as he removed the rear shock supports, (he claims the holes for the rear supports are still under the frame he welded up in the photo) attached this shock frame across the back and lowered the shocks, put a Harley fender on the back, put big white mud flaps front and rear and a winker hood on the headlight. The seat is a home-made single seat but not attached to the frame in any way. I think it seems like a fair deal. I think he's mostly interested in the original exhaust on mine.

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2013, 09:17:25 PM »
Think we are kind of spoiled up here in the rust belt,prices are quite a bit lower usually.

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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2013, 09:22:52 PM »
If I could get that much for my K1 I would be tempted to sell... But I would want more then 4.5. My gut tells me to this day 545 was the original miles... as does the original and only registration sticker on the frame from 1971..

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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2013, 10:07:46 PM »

The paint is wrong, I give a rats ass, Uncle Terry.  Reduces value. 

Ahhh, the "Closet Collector" has finally outted himself! I don't give a rats arse Steve because I buy my bikes to ride, but if you want to buy a bike as an "investment" then I suppose the correct shade of paint is important, as is the little yellow dots of paint on various nuts and bolts, the correct placement of warning labels, (yawn) and so on, and so on..............  ::)  ;D
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2013, 04:00:26 AM »
Gold is called the YELLOW metal..... Pure gold look very yellow. Honda gold is different?

I was looking for gold paint for stripes 30 years ago when I had a tank repaint project on my cb750. I found out that car makers had different shades of gold. Many had green, yellow, red, bluish tone etc. The red tone looked better. Very difficult to find correct to match the other color.
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2013, 05:47:48 AM »
Well you know if he says he will take $3.7K and your bike, he would take less!!  You could figure at least $1K for your running CB750, maybe $1.5K, although it dose look rough.  So should be no more than $3.5K.  Personally I would do it in a heart beat, but only if it were close to me.  Got to hear the engine though, would also be good to hear the history, would be great if he were the original owner and or 2nd, etc.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2013, 06:13:06 AM »
Nice looking K1 that begs to be ridden and presents itself as a well done “preservation” rather than a correct restoration.     

The Honda 750 used two different color codes for candy gold, the codes are found at the end of the part number.

The K0 and K1 used color code: CQ

The K2 used color code: LX

Pre-barcode label examples of CQ candy gold:
 

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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2013, 06:27:23 AM »

The paint is wrong, I give a rats ass, Uncle Terry.  Reduces value. 

Ahhh, the "Closet Collector" has finally outted himself! I don't give a rats arse Steve because I buy my bikes to ride...

C'mon Terry, it's not about being a "Closet Collector", you just make that up? Ha!
 So if you were considering buying this particular bike, you wouldn't use the "improper color" as a bargaining tool to get a better deal? 
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