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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #175 on: November 11, 2013, 08:49:54 AM »
The stock rim is 1.565 inches inside.

The DID rim is 1.852 inches which corresponds to the marking on the rim.



Difference of .287 which is not much.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #176 on: November 11, 2013, 10:17:58 AM »
Great. Here is the reply.

Thank you for your e-mail. Sorry I’m not able to advise if these spokes and your hub will lace correctly with this DID rim. Can you be sure the rims currently fitted are standard when coming out of the factory as new? If you don’t think it will work then I would advise you to return them for refund.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #177 on: November 11, 2013, 06:07:03 PM »
I don't see a problem but I know how you like everything to be stock.
What are your thoughts? And options??
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #178 on: November 11, 2013, 06:15:42 PM »
Should work if it is not too wide but it would not be stock-if the bike were mine I would not use it as I'd want it to be as close to original as possible. My .66...Larry

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #179 on: November 11, 2013, 06:36:17 PM »
I don't see a problem but I know how you like everything to be stock.
What are your thoughts? And options??

They would be 7 mm wider but should clear the fender. Options? Try to find the right rims. Thoughts?

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #180 on: November 11, 2013, 06:38:54 PM »
Should work if it is not too wide but it would not be stock-if the bike were mine I would not use it as I'd want it to be as close to original as possible. My .66...Larry

I understand. I was called and this was discussed at DS before I ordered them. Not sure what I'm going to do. Might return them and shop for a narrower rim.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #181 on: November 12, 2013, 06:46:09 AM »
Started on the rear wheel early this morning.



Laced the inner spokes off a couple of holes so we tried again.



And everything went into place.





Then I put it on the swing arm for a decision.







I talked with DS via email and can return rims without the 20% restock fee. Would just cost shipping. I'm working on the stock rim to see how it will clean up. If acceptable then the wheel will be taken apart and I'll lace again.

What do you guys think? (feedback please)

I know stock is always better but they do look good and 7mm gives the wheel a little "pop".

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #182 on: November 12, 2013, 06:53:53 AM »
I think it looks great tt, and I sincerely doubt anyone will notice if you don't tell them ;)

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #183 on: November 12, 2013, 07:00:42 AM »
The stock rim is cleaning up nicely Greggo with the exception of a few areas.

Tough call. Thanks for the feedback. (I really need it)

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #184 on: November 12, 2013, 07:07:35 AM »
Could be a good debate and I can see both sides. The new rim looks fantastic, but an OEM would be more correct.   Sounds like you are unable to obtain one?
If this were a sandcast, value would come into play, but this baby 160, I don't think so.
Keep the new rim.

BTW - similar situation on my Z1.  Had to replace the stupid 16" Harley rear wheel, OEM not available. Could have found a decent used one but would have never looked new. Bought a new DID and no regrets. 
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #185 on: November 12, 2013, 07:35:54 AM »
Thanks Steve.

The factory rim has some light pitting but otherwise IS acceptable.









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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #186 on: November 12, 2013, 07:38:57 AM »
jas67>>

Next time you are out in your shop check the emblems versus year.

1965.



Titled as 1968 but until I remove the fuel tank not verified.



The first picture is slightly warped from age. Second set are spotless. Must of been a change at some point.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #187 on: November 12, 2013, 07:54:43 AM »
Here is where I stand.

This is not a restoration. Given that do the new rims "look out of place" with the rest of the bike? Well, yes they do.

Lacing the old rim with new spokes look acceptable? Yes, it's 48 years old and adds to the charm of old Honda's.

I'm leaning towards taking apart the new rim and returning. Geez, it's not suppose to be this much brain overload.  :D

Larry=return.
Greggo=keep them.
Steve o=keep them.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #188 on: November 12, 2013, 08:05:32 AM »
How much do you value originality, or if you plan to sell, how much would buyers value it?

You already have the new rim laced up, it fits fine, and only the most eagle eyed afficianado of CB160's would know that it is a bit wider than stock.

If it doesn't bother you and doesn't impact value then I would leave it be and sell the other rim to someone that REALLY wants an original rim on their bike. Or, you know, keep it to use on the next CB160 you buy (and you know there will be another one) that has a rusty rim in need of repalcement.
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #189 on: November 12, 2013, 08:23:57 AM »
How much do you value originality, or if you plan to sell, how much would buyers value it?

You already have the new rim laced up, it fits fine, and only the most eagle eyed afficianado of CB160's would know that it is a bit wider than stock.

If it doesn't bother you and doesn't impact value then I would leave it be and sell the other rim to someone that REALLY wants an original rim on their bike. Or, you know, keep it to use on the next CB160 you buy (and you know there will be another one) that has a rusty rim in need of repalcement.

Thanks Danny. Already have another CB160.  ;D



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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #190 on: November 12, 2013, 08:30:38 AM »
The decision has been made for me. Attempted to clean the front rim before going through all the work on the rear rim.

Not happening. Rust to deep. Spare CB160 not any better but one rim might work. A lot of work just to remove it and add to that more lacing of rims.

The new ones stay. (sorry momo  :D)

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #191 on: November 12, 2013, 08:50:05 AM »
Good choice. The new DID rear rim looks killer, just a touch wider. IMO the bike will look nicer with new rims fore and aft with new tires that are close to the original tread pattern.
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #192 on: November 12, 2013, 09:25:27 AM »
Good choice. The new DID rear rim looks killer, just a touch wider. IMO the bike will look nicer with new rims fore and aft with new tires that are close to the original tread pattern.

I agree. Thank you.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #193 on: November 12, 2013, 11:08:25 AM »
It's a great day by golly.  :D

Found someone local to true the rim. Old Honda dealership guy. He is going to get the offset for me but was thinking that the rim is 7mm wider.

Effect offset or not?

At any rate we can get it close.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #194 on: November 12, 2013, 03:44:56 PM »
What tires?
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #195 on: November 12, 2013, 06:22:10 PM »
Apology accepted TT ::)   Looks good,  I used new spokes with old rims on the latest 400F



You have me wanting to start looking for one...Larry

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #196 on: November 12, 2013, 06:29:47 PM »
 ;D

I'll have plenty of extra parts Larry.

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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
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Re: BabyHawk.. the CB160 build.
« Reply #199 on: November 12, 2013, 07:21:43 PM »
I don't recognize the tire.  Brand?
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