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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #400 on: January 08, 2015, 04:14:34 AM »
Alright Slacker. Pull up your Dockers, tie your Topsiders up tight, and head on over here ( http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=144098.0 ) and accept your nomination. But first, please get this thing running to officially be qualified.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #401 on: January 08, 2015, 07:49:32 AM »
Ahhhhh.....the agony.   So much pressure.   Where did I put that Prozac??   Hell, it's 5 p.m. somewhere in the world, give me my G.F. !   8)
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #402 on: January 08, 2015, 08:07:02 AM »
Exhaust will go on this afternoon.  Have the gaskets ready to go.  Used Red Line assembly lube.  Primed oil pump.  M-unit turns over starter motor.  Getting good spark.  Break-in oil in sump.  Gallon of fuel in tank.

Should I give a little squirt of WD40 or light oil into cylinders first?  I will roll bike in neutral then first gear with plugs out.

Any other first start tips?


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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #403 on: January 08, 2015, 11:15:08 AM »
Any other first start tips?

A few to many already.
Just push the button.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #404 on: January 08, 2015, 11:36:17 AM »
Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #405 on: January 08, 2015, 11:42:25 AM »
Tough crowd...

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #406 on: January 08, 2015, 12:49:15 PM »
Here's a first start tip:

Video it.  And put the link on here!  8)
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #407 on: January 08, 2015, 12:53:43 PM »
Awesome bunch...            It doesn't matter how many times you've done this, it is always stressful.

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #408 on: January 08, 2015, 01:40:05 PM »
I little starter fluid spray on the carburetor air filters may help, too.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #409 on: January 08, 2015, 06:04:47 PM »
Got the Mac 4-1 headers and muffler on.



This is typically something I do with an extra set of hands, but it went fairly smoothly.  Earlier, I had a friend check out the Kerkers and he thinks he can heat bend to fit if using the spin-on oil filter.  I let him take the headers and the spin-on.  Nothing to lose.

I re-checked the valves - a bit nervous about bending a valve stem.  Clearances were OK.  .004 for intake and .005 for exhaust.

There is a fuel leal at the petcock outlet which I mitigated, but not eliminated, by tightening the hose clamp.  Slowed down enough to attempt to start the engine.

Battery voltage was only 12.05v.  Brand new battery (sitting on a shelf though since about September) but probably it ran down when I was dealing with the m-unit quirks.  Thanks again, Cal, for solving that issue.

So I swiped the m-lock sensor and hit the start button. The engine turned over nicely for about 3 - 4 seconds, but then the m-unit turned off.  Tried again by swiping the sensor to switch on; it turned over .... but the m-unit turned off again after about 2 seconds.  Third time, swipe the sensor, and barely turned over before the m-unit shut down.  I need to ask Cal, but the m-unit may be designed to shut down when attempting to start with insufficient cranking voltage.  I just don't know enough about its features.  I hope the Dyna 2000 is somehow not interfering with the m-unit.  I will say that during the three attempts to start, there was no sound of any combustion....propbably not enough fuel getting into the cylinders from the carbs, but I did hear gas trickle down into the float bowls.

Battery is on the charger now, and after only a minute or two, the voltage climbed to 12.47.

So, it was a no-go for today.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #410 on: January 08, 2015, 11:08:48 PM »
I thought I told you to charge that dang battery last week!!!

Try this: swipe sensor, let it sit. Keep fob nearby, but not close enough to deactivate the m-unit. Tell me if the m-unit quits. Your using the "user" fob, right? And R/R BLK is connected to AUX?

M-unit will honk the horn (assuming it's connected) twice under low voltage (or blink the lights).
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #411 on: January 09, 2015, 10:06:01 AM »
Yes, I know you did.  The GF got in the way.

I stopped by the shop for a few minutes on the way to the office.  The battery is holding a strong charge of 14.05 V.



AsCal suggested, I swiped the m-lock sensor and waited to see if it shut down.  It stayed on. 



The m-unit must have some feature to preserve battery when it detect a low charge.  The engine turned over very well and sustained without the m-unit shuting down.  But the engine wouldn't start.  I will re-test for spark when I get home.

I did notice that the bottom of carb filter #1 was dripping gas.  I pulled the filter, dry it up and turned the petcock to "on."  Fuel was leaking badly either from the bowl gasket or from the housing for the "inter carb" fuel line used with mutiple carbs.  There may not be a block in there.  I didn't have any time to really investigate.  So I shut the petcock and wiped up the fuel.




On a side note (no pun intended), I rode the Orange Monster to breakfast the other day and when I came out, I noticed that someone had stolen the right side cover.  I'm sure it didn't fall off during the ride because that thing was in there tight.  So tight I was concerned I would break off the tabs.  There is no way I'll ever be able to match the custom orange and gold flake.



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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #412 on: January 09, 2015, 10:19:07 AM »
Such a bummer about the side cover. I really hate that #$%*, no respect.  :-[
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #413 on: January 09, 2015, 10:30:13 AM »
Yah, I don't get it.  Probably someone with a 550 who has a broken one.  I know everyone around here with 550s, but on the weekends the place gets a ton of tourists this time of year because of the snow.  Very bummed.  Will probably go gloss black now with fender and side covers.

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #414 on: January 09, 2015, 12:32:59 PM »
Oh, that's just sickening.
Sorry to hear about the theft.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #415 on: January 09, 2015, 02:45:43 PM »
I think I see my fuel leak problem thanks to FunJimmy.  I am using the carb inlet (the black 90) shown on the left side of carb body #1 as depicted in FJ's pic (FJ has no hose or no cap on it).  That's where I have the fuel line from the tank connected.  It looks like FJ is using one of the inlets on the fuels lines between the carb bodies. 

It is incorrect to use this inlet and should it be capped?

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #416 on: January 09, 2015, 04:00:17 PM »
Effin' Savages.  I remember riding my 750 to the IMS show about 6 years ago and someone stole one of my sidecovers in the parking lot.  It pissed me off that they did it at a motorcycle show of all places! 

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Lance: What a f'er!
Vincent: What's more chicken$hit than f'ing with a man's automobile? I mean, don't f with another man's vehicle.
Lance: You don't do it.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #417 on: January 09, 2015, 05:01:01 PM »
Dreadfully sorry to hear about your side cover. They make .45s for such moments. I've got extras if you need a NOS replacement  ;)
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #418 on: January 09, 2015, 06:52:37 PM »
I think I see my fuel leak problem thanks to FunJimmy.  I am using the carb inlet (the black 90) shown on the left side of carb body #1 as depicted in FJ's pic (FJ has no hose or no cap on it).  That's where I have the fuel line from the tank connected.  It looks like FJ is using one of the inlets on the fuels lines between the carb bodies. 

It is incorrect to use this inlet and should it be capped?

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I should have looked closer to your routing. The 90° inlet on the left side of the carb is a breather. Should be left open. If memory serves me, my fuel line goes to the connector between #2 & #3 carbs. I'll take a look tonight.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #419 on: January 09, 2015, 07:07:36 PM »
That sucks about the cover..sorry man

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #420 on: January 09, 2015, 08:41:24 PM »
Thanks, guys.  And its not really the cost of replacement...its the impossibility of paint match and the effort that goes into these bikes.  I hope Karma is a #$%*.

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #421 on: January 09, 2015, 09:44:05 PM »
Jimmy, yup...I certainly did attach to the breather.  That was a bonehead move.  Thanks.  Maybe I get a start up now.

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #422 on: January 10, 2015, 04:42:21 AM »
Blackfin - is "Toyon" Japanese for "Bonehead"? I'm just curious...

Confession time: I'm waiting to install and configure my 500/CR-26s until you troubleshoot everything for me so I don't make the same mistakes. Bikes been done and waiting for months. Better hurry and finish yours so I have all the pictures and details worked out ahead of time. Please!  :-*
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #423 on: January 10, 2015, 05:27:07 AM »
Cal, I should have know you were wanting to ride on my Dockers, er .... I mean coattails.  Lucky for you this is a very accepting bunch.   ::) 

I have no clue as to what Toyon means.  It was the name of a small boating/yachting club on Catalina Island when I was a kid.  It's long gone but I have very nostagic memories.  "Blackfin" is a species of fast tuna in the Gulf and all my boats have been named Blackfin.  Blackfin set the Transpac record in, I believe, 1969 or thereabouts.  The name just stuck.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #424 on: January 10, 2015, 03:29:48 PM »
SHES'S ALIVE !

Thank you,
MikeR
Cal
Jimmy
Brent
Don
Godffrey
Devin
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Buzz
...and everyone else who gave advice, support and encouragement in this build.  Thank you.

It's not officially completed but should be by tomorrow.  I will try to post up a short vudeo of the start up later tonight.

She runs strong and smooth but I hear a little bit of chain or valve.noise... but sooo happy right now.

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