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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #425 on: January 10, 2015, 03:50:00 PM »
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #426 on: January 10, 2015, 04:08:43 PM »
Woo hoo!! Ok, time to accept your nomination on BOTM.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #427 on: January 10, 2015, 09:11:32 PM »
SHES'S ALIVE !

Congrats. That's great news.
Looking forward to the video and even more, BOTM!
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #428 on: January 11, 2015, 05:30:59 PM »
Well, I guess I can say the build is officially finished, although there are several loose ends.  More on this in the next post.  To finish the build, I had to size, trim and solder the termnals for the throttle cables.  Then install the cables in the Venhill 888n throttle grip and the CR26s butterfly - which was no simple task.  I had to remove the carbs.

Below are pics of the little solder pot and the finished terminals.  It's really a simple procedure.  Get a black pipe or other iron pipe end fitting.  I use 1/2 or 3/4 inch.  Blast it with a torch first to remove all oils and impurities before melting in the solder.  I use 60/40 solder (tin/lead) but 50/50 is OK.  I think silver solder may be stronger.  Make sure you rough up the terminal cavity a bit - I use a small cone shaped grind stone for a Dremel.  And the most important thing is to splay the last 1/8 to 5/32" of the cables - that is the strength.  Clean the end terminals and splayed cables in methyl hydrate (if you can still find it) or acetone.  Let it soak for about 10 mins then air dry.  Stick the splayed ends of the cables in flux and also the cavity in the terminals.  Then simply dip the ends in the bubbling solder, but just submerse it to barely cover the terminal.  After cooling, clean up any extra solder with a light grinding or 80 grit.







« Last Edit: January 11, 2015, 06:25:49 PM by Blackfin5 »

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #429 on: January 11, 2015, 05:43:02 PM »
Looking forward to seeing a video of it running  ;)

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #430 on: January 11, 2015, 06:09:00 PM »
Congrats man!!
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #431 on: January 11, 2015, 06:14:55 PM »
It sounds like a beast, even with the Mac muffler - which makes it a bit tinney.  It sounds much stronger than the stock 550s.  I've taken a couple of 30 sec videos, but my cell phone takes videos in mp4 format.  I looked for an app that would convert from mp4 to mpg with no luck.  I've never posted a video before, so I either need to search the forum or get some advice on how to do it.

I totally eliminated the fuel leak at the petcock outlet and re-routed the fuel line to the carb inlet between carbs #2 and #3 as per FunJimmy.  I have to look at the m-unit programming because when pushing the m-switch start button, it turns over and starts.  Another push of the buttom is supposed to be the kill switch.  But the second push spins the starter. I have to swipe the m-lock to stop the engine.  It's most likely a program change.  All other functions work great, except the PIAA horn, which I have not yet installed (I still consider the build finished).  I will change the exhaust to the Kerker headers with a 12" shorty Cone muffler if they can be made to eventually fit.  If not, for now I will keep the Mac 4-1 pipes but cut of the can and replace it with a Cone.

I do hear slight valve/tappet noise which is not uncommon, I hope.  Same as the other 550s, however they are not newly rebuilt.  I hope this sound is acceptable.  With the initial couple start ups, it smelled like paint baking with white smoke coming out of the exhaust.  I'm sure the painted Mac pipes were partly the cause.  The white smoke diminishes each time I start it up - it's almost gone.  I wonder if this is the Red Line assembly lube, though I didn't use any for the sleeves.

Also, I think I goofed and selected the "quicker" of the 2 Venhill rotors.  I get full throttle with only about a quarter turn or less.   It's the one with the shorter crown for the cable terminals.  I would hate to swap it out though because it was a PITA to install the throttle cables.  I wasn't expecting such a quick, limited throttle grip turn.

Unfortunately, when coming back to the bike a few hours after each start up, there is a drip or two of oil directly below the exhaust side of the head at piston #4.  When running my finger on the underside of the bottom fin of the head in this location, I swipe a tad of oil.  I am guessing its coming from the head gasket or the valve cover gasket.  I initially torqued the APE HD studs to 18.5 ft. lbs.  I hope the small leak goes away after I re-torque the studs.  My target is 20 ft. lbs..  I believe max recommended is 22.

I was hoping to go for a couple rides pulling the bike hard uphil on my long driveway for break-in, but its been raining here all day.  Maybe after work tomorrow.

Any thoughts or comments are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #432 on: January 11, 2015, 06:52:56 PM »
Create a YouTube account to upload too. It should convert the MP4 for you. Then you can post the link here.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #433 on: January 11, 2015, 07:11:35 PM »
BF - push once for START. A double-push is KILL. Once running, a single second push sends a signal to the solenoid...
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #434 on: January 11, 2015, 07:20:47 PM »

I think I got it.  I did not rev it in the video because it was taken before I installed the throttle cables.  I'll post another video tomorrow showing throttle response and revs.

Thanks for the youtube instruct.

Cheers!
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #435 on: January 11, 2015, 07:25:26 PM »
Nice crisp start up... ;)
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #436 on: January 11, 2015, 07:32:17 PM »
Nice. Started right up.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #437 on: January 11, 2015, 08:45:26 PM »
Thanks, Cal.  Just read that in the manual.  It's amazing what can be learned when you read the instructions.   :-\

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #438 on: January 11, 2015, 10:40:51 PM »
Very well done, Kevin!
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #439 on: January 11, 2015, 11:58:47 PM »
nothing wrong with that. congratulations!!

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #440 on: January 12, 2015, 03:32:28 AM »
Thanks, Cal.  Just read that in the manual.  It's amazing what can be learned when you read the instructions.   :-\
I guess your lips get too tired when reading them? Easier to take the abuse publicly-

The bike has turned out beautiful and the workmanship is top class, Kevin. You should be very proud of all the fine details and outcome. Now, let's see if you can hang onto the side covers on this beauty!
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #441 on: January 12, 2015, 06:55:16 AM »
Going to epoxy the cover in place and rig up a spring gun.....once I monkey a bit with the m-lock sensor.  Sometimes it activates through the cover and sometimes not even with the fob touching the cover.  The sensor face is about 20mm from the inside of the cover.

Cal, need help with your CR26s?
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #442 on: January 12, 2015, 07:31:40 AM »
From the start up video, the bike sounds dialled! really nice work. Looking forward to hearing some revs.  ;D
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #443 on: January 12, 2015, 07:33:56 AM »
Not yet on the carbs. They're boxed up and awaiting the College Boy to return for the summer.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #444 on: January 12, 2015, 08:10:15 AM »
Talk about milking a build!  Geez.  I learned from the master.

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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #445 on: January 12, 2015, 11:33:43 AM »
He is a master at wasting my time and money... :'(
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #446 on: January 12, 2015, 04:30:59 PM »
Update.

Below is a link showing the 2nd day start up after throttle cables installed.  In the video it doesn't sound like the real deal.  It's charging at about 14.7 volts with RPMs around 2200.  I have idle set high during break-in.  I don't want to lug it for the first few hundred miles.

Good news - I located the oil leak.  It's coming from the end cap of the valve cover.  Should be fairly easy to fix.  No leak from the head gasket - so far anyway.  I can't wait to install the Cone 12" shorty straight thru muffler.  All n' all, I'm a VERY happy camper.


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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #447 on: January 12, 2015, 04:34:06 PM »
Sounds great! It would be pretty cool to see the electronics activate with the fob, and the functions when you use the bar buttons (hint, hint)  ;) Also, a shot of gauges when you power up.
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Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #448 on: January 12, 2015, 04:36:25 PM »
Cal, quit busting me.  I don't have the lights for the gauges powered up yet.  Does this disqualify me for BOTM?   :-[

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« Reply #449 on: January 12, 2015, 04:41:14 PM »
Cal, quit busting me.  I don't have the lights for the gauges powered up yet.  Does this disqualify me for BOTM?   :-[
Seriously? Should have bought a MotoG gauge... Plug and play, brother, plug and play...

How about an under the seat video then?
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