Author Topic: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5  (Read 92084 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #500 on: January 26, 2016, 06:29:09 PM »
Woodcraft is the ticket!  1-3" risers, but they only seem to come in 37mm and larger.

Offline SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan

  • Speak up, Whipper-Snapper! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,556
  • SOHC/4 Member #1235
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #501 on: January 26, 2016, 08:37:26 PM »
Kevin,

Steer clear (pun intended) of the Tarozzi riser clip-ons. No matter how tight you torque them (short of stripping the adjuster bolts), the bars will still move out of position when medium force is applied. No bueno. I remember unloading my bike out of my truck's wheel chock and they moved, and moved and moved.   >:(

Good on you on patiently diagnosing these gremlins!

Don
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline bwaller

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,449
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #502 on: January 27, 2016, 03:53:30 AM »
There is a second 6mm bolt attaching the bottom of that detent bracket. It also attaches the primary shaft brg.retainer, it is in the right position?

It looks like you have all the pieces in the right spot, the only suggestion I might have is that the case lug was shortened or something. Just work by spacing both detent roller brackets until they are in the right position. Try to use hardened thrust washers if possible.

By the way Dave went walkabout & TwoTired moved on as well!!

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #503 on: January 27, 2016, 07:32:30 AM »
Don - Yes, I know.  The Tarozzi risers drove me nuts.  I tried them on the Blaster.  I even powder coated them and the inside bearing surface to get more squish.  No bueno.

Cal - Thanks on the LSL.  I have a couple items from them.  Headlight brackets are hi end stuff.  As for the plugs I've seen, the all require the cap (the small housing).  It is the cap that leaks.

Brent - I don't think the lug moved.  And the neutral detent is perfectly placed.  The 2nd 6x20 mounting bolt is in place and securing the bottom end of the bracket.  Last night I put the stopper arm in the vise and bent it outward about 1mm and made sure the detent is still parallel to the drum end.  I think this will work.

Thanks. guys!
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 08:01:23 AM by Blackfin5 »

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #504 on: January 27, 2016, 04:43:54 PM »
Ahh...I'm in love with my Danielle again. 

I took her out for a "let's go!" ride after the office for about 30 mins up my mountain road and back.  She shifted smoothly and flawlessly through the gears with not a single false neutral. Those episodes of popping out of gear were becoming demoralizing.  Upon return, only a single drop of oil (if even that) emerged just under the left side cover - easy fix.  I re-used the old alum washers.  No other evidence of other drips or weepage whatsoever.  Last night, I shimmed behind the tach cap bolt and re-applied form-a-gasket no. 1.  Let it cure overnight.  Leak fixed. 

Oops - I forgot to re-attach the breather hose before the ride and found it hanging when home. Luckily I didn't lose it along the way.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 02:04:31 PM by Glenn Stauffer »

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #505 on: January 28, 2016, 07:33:49 PM »
Another "on the throttle" ride after work up the mountain for a coffee and apple pie at a local eatery. Nice, warm, cloudless afternoon in the mountains of San Diego County. It is amazing to me how nimble #5 is through the twisties after being on the Blaster 750 for the past few months.  Doesn't handle quite as nice as the Duc, but more fun.  And, I have taken a lot of weight off the 750 and enhanced the suspension.  Still, the 550 feels so much more flickable.  It weighs in at 395 lbs with fuel and oil.


After sitting for 24 hours since yesterday's test ride, this is the totality of the oil leak from the left side valve cover I found today.


So, I'm all in.  A second day of being extremely pleased - especially with the transitions through all the gears.  Next and last stop is the dyno booth.  After hard pulls in 4th and 5th, it just seems slightly less than optimal, but only marginally so.  I was upshifting hitting the throttle hard at slightly lower than typical RPMs and I felt a bit of a flat spot.  Only the dyno will know for sure whether it's jetted correctly.  I have a great dyno and re-jetting man here in San Diego. 
« Last Edit: January 28, 2016, 09:19:59 PM by Blackfin5 »

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #506 on: January 29, 2016, 03:43:41 AM »
Cal, didn't you also vote for Obama?    8)

Offline SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan

  • Speak up, Whipper-Snapper! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,556
  • SOHC/4 Member #1235
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #507 on: January 29, 2016, 06:34:03 AM »
Up a mountain rode for apple pie. Julian or Palomar?
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #508 on: January 29, 2016, 08:50:32 AM »
Almost to Julian...Wynola.  Don, when are you going to make it down here?  I'll buy the pie - for you only.  Cal is loaded and can pay his own freight.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2016, 09:01:21 AM by Blackfin5 »

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #509 on: January 29, 2016, 09:22:53 AM »
Hey, Cal....I have a snow shovel if you need my help.

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #510 on: January 29, 2016, 09:34:48 AM »
Busted....

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #511 on: January 29, 2016, 03:50:13 PM »
Again....PIE after woek.  Running superbly.  Especially when the RPMs are up with the new cam.  Pic is for Don.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2016, 04:37:00 PM by Blackfin5 »

Offline SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan

  • Speak up, Whipper-Snapper! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,556
  • SOHC/4 Member #1235
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #512 on: January 30, 2016, 12:55:13 AM »
Love their pies.

I'd love to come down for a ride soon on a weekend.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #513 on: February 07, 2016, 02:39:13 PM »
I had some rare idle time today so I was tinkering with suspension tuning.  To recap, I have Ikon 750F shocks in rear - 13.35" eye to eye.  OEM is 12.6".  In front, RaceTech .70kg single rate springs with emulators in new TNK 570mm tubes.  I think OEM length is 21-7/8 to 22-1/8 (depending on who you ask), or 555 - 562 mm.

I made several runs around the mountain curves and over known bumps.  Switched combinations of different length Ikons and messed with front fork pre-load and emulator springs.

Honestly, I thought I detected some difference with shorter shocks, but mostly in my head.

I went with the 13.35 Ikons and blue emulator springs with 3 turns, and reduced pre-load to 10mm.  To me, the bike handles awesomely.  So, my shocks are 20mm longer than stock; and my tubes are 15mm longer than stock.  Also, with a 120 rear tire and a 100 in front, the rear is raised about an additionsl 8mm compared to a stock set up.

I then tried to measure rake and trail.  I got approx 25° fork rake and maybe 3.9" trail.  My methods are rather crude but I think I am in the ballpark.  At rest centered with no rider, I have 28" vertical distance from top shock eye to ground; and 38.5" from top of fork tube to ground, measured at the side mid point.

I have been pondering K-Tech cartridges, but the bike handles so nicely and is so much fun I think I will just leave it alone.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 08:30:15 PM by Blackfin5 »

Offline mickey_7106

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 31
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #514 on: March 18, 2016, 02:45:59 PM »
What headlight bucket are you using?

Offline OneWheelDrive

  • A journey of 1000 miles starts with your first carb overhaul.
  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 497
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #515 on: March 25, 2016, 10:27:48 AM »
Great looking bike.  I'm in Oceanside and would love to cruise up in to the mountains for a ride one of these beautiful spring days!
1975 CB550 cafe
1971 CB500 stocker
2008 Ducati Hypermotard 1100S *sold*
1973 CB350F *sold*
1975 CB550K Project "Keeper" *sold*
2010 Ducati Monster S4RS *sold*
1976 CB360T *sold*
1974 CB550K *sold*
1973 CB750K *sold*
1978 CB550K *sold*
2007 Vespa LX150 *sold*

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #516 on: March 27, 2021, 11:18:08 AM »
Hello All.   No. 5 Danielle is officially back in the livery after a slow speed wash-out on my gravel driveway last summer.  Scraped up the left side of the tank, tweaked the clutch lever, and bent the left foot peg.  I decided to take this opportunity during COVID to "mod" her up even more.

« Last Edit: March 27, 2021, 11:40:21 AM by Blackfin5 »

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #517 on: March 27, 2021, 11:28:11 AM »
Just a brief rundown of the upgrades with some pics.  Thanks to Devin at Cognito for the 35mm fixed triple tree.  With 14" shocks and a 100/90-18 front wheel, the rake is 22.5 degrees and the trail comes in at an exact 95mm with me on board.  To be safe, I installed a steering damper for a trail number under 100mm.

Devin also supplied the conversion hubs front and rear, to accommodate 2008 GSXR forks, with Gold Valve for the rebound and compression pistons.  I swamped out the existing Excel shouldered rims, which were WM3 and WM4, for Sun rims to fit 100/90 and 120/80 new Avon shoes.  I may later go with a 110 up front and a 130 in back, which will fit nicely on these Sun rims.  Laced with SS spokes and nipples from Buchannan.

Thanks also to Cliff Meyer for the custom built fender for the 110 x 18 front.

 
« Last Edit: March 27, 2021, 11:41:22 AM by Blackfin5 »

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #518 on: March 27, 2021, 11:39:01 AM »
I slapped on Brembo calipers with new pads from a 2013 GSXR 1000, with a Duc Monster rear disc.  The Ohlin Street shocks also came from Devin, along with Cognito rearsets which replace the bent Tarozzi ones.

Went for my first ride this morning since crashing.  It ran a bit rough with a hanging idle, which was to be expected after the CRs have been sitting on the bike with fuel in floats since last summer.  I will get them sorted out shortly.  My only reservation is the bulbous Truck-Lite headlight.  On my mountain roads here I do not ride mush at night, and will likely go with a more trim headlight.  I can't say enough about the Brembo RCS 17 master cylinder.  I have the 19m version on the 750F, and it is awesome. . . silk stopping power.

The last thing to be completed were the tank badges, which survived the side wash out.

Cheers!!

   

Offline SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan

  • Speak up, Whipper-Snapper! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,556
  • SOHC/4 Member #1235
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #519 on: March 27, 2021, 09:53:42 PM »
Looking for a "second" to my nomination for this bike:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180400.0.html
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan

  • Speak up, Whipper-Snapper! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,556
  • SOHC/4 Member #1235
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #520 on: March 29, 2021, 08:01:10 PM »
Kevin,

Your CB550 Danielle has been duly nominated for Bike of the Month.  To be eligible for voting, please post that you "accept" the nomination in the following thread:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180400.0.html

Congratulations and thank you for inspiring future builds!

Don
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #521 on: March 30, 2021, 07:52:41 PM »
Thanks, Don.  Still waiting to buy you a slice of hot Mom's apple pie...  if the other bikers don't buy it out on any given weekend.

Offline Shtonecb500

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,652
    • Youtube profile
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #522 on: March 31, 2021, 12:50:11 PM »
lets hear this thing.
73/74'' CB500/550 resto-mod - sold
75' 750f 91' cbr f2 swap cafe - mock up
74' 750 chopper hardtail - complete - sold
74' CB750/836kit - Black mix & match - daily rider - always tweaking
71' cb500 K0 survivor - complete
71' K1 - CANDY GOLD/BROWN Winton kit - in process

Offline Blackfin5

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 573
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #523 on: March 31, 2021, 01:04:32 PM »
Will do.

Offline Ryan66

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 301
Re: Danielle CB550K Build - Toyon Moto Club #5
« Reply #524 on: March 31, 2021, 01:26:27 PM »
Beautiful bike. How does it handle with all that forward rake?
1976 CB550k (cafe project)