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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #375 on: October 27, 2014, 06:18:04 pm »
But think of the fuels economy with the current power plant! I'm picturing Mick seated, helmet on, rumbling down the street muttering "varooooom, varooooooom, varoooom, whump, whump, whump!"
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #376 on: October 27, 2014, 06:53:55 pm »
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #377 on: October 27, 2014, 07:08:48 pm »
Great post on restoring your bike, also I have been down the Great Ocean Road several times and it's a great ride, just have to watch out for the tourists on that road  :-\
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #378 on: October 27, 2014, 07:10:30 pm »
Used to live down that way and it was always a race, memories.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #379 on: October 27, 2014, 10:39:40 pm »
Got the call I can pick up the wheels tomorrow, have fitted Bridgestone BT45s.

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CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #380 on: October 28, 2014, 10:54:21 pm »
It's turning into a motorbike!






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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #381 on: October 29, 2014, 04:06:28 am »
Uh, operative word motor is still as yet unidentifiable in that frame  ::)
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #382 on: October 29, 2014, 04:07:42 am »
Oops it's turning into a .....bike?

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #383 on: October 29, 2014, 04:08:34 am »
A roller-bike perhaps!
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #384 on: October 29, 2014, 04:26:25 am »
Picky picky, cheap shots won't sway me, I can see it's a motorcycle in my minds eye already.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #385 on: October 29, 2014, 04:29:12 am »
Who you calling cheap? I've never charged less than full rate for my abuse! Hrmph.

Did I forget what you've done with the tank and side covers? Can't recall seeing those yet?
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #386 on: October 29, 2014, 04:34:22 am »
Don't remind me, side covers are ready for paint, still got to get the tank ready.
Still sooo much to do and so little time.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #387 on: October 29, 2014, 10:31:01 pm »
Cases are together.



QUESTION

Does this oil seal go with the metal face towards the casing? My thought is as the lip faces inwards therefore the metal face goes in facing the engine




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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #388 on: October 29, 2014, 10:47:25 pm »
I presume the shorter thread goes at the top?


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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #389 on: October 30, 2014, 02:22:07 am »
Anyone help with torque on casing bolts, barrel and head studs?

Happy with progress today, cases altogether, everything inside moving smoothly with no surprises.

I hope the casing gasket goo (high temperature RTV silicon) I used holds all the oil in the engine.



Tomorrow I hope to get rings on Pistons, barrels on Pistons, head on Pistons, tappet cover on Pistons. Provided all goes smoothly.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #390 on: October 30, 2014, 03:10:54 am »
I'll let Dave or some other expert confirm your seal orientation. But the case studs depends upon whether you use lubricant/sealant or install dry. 14-16# is the factory spec on the studs. I use a pre-lube, but it's not a requirement.

Are you waiting to paint the cases until after assembly? Or were they vapor blasted and this is the final finish on them?
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #391 on: October 30, 2014, 03:18:59 am »
Cal don't you sleep? I've used an anti seize grease on all threads during the build. I realised the longer threads were in the cases when I pulled them out.

The cases are painted but will be washed down again at the end and given another coat. What have I done wrong? The fact you ask makes me think Oh Magoo you've done it again.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #392 on: October 30, 2014, 03:25:00 am »
Sleep is for sissies. Besides, I'll sleep when I'm dead. Early morning is the only time I get for myself; else it's go here, do that, see whathisname, pick up that kid, drop that one, blah blah blah.

0400-0700 are very productive times for me.

Re:paint- I asked because the picture didn't make them look too shiny is all. Thought I remembers you had them blasted and painted. Probably just a poor picture. Disregard it.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #393 on: October 30, 2014, 03:30:52 am »
Cal I'm not really understanding what you mean by "use lubricant/ sealant or install dry?
Trouble with the painted cases is they shown every greasy fingerprint and touch, thus the need to give it a touch up.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #394 on: October 30, 2014, 04:41:02 am »
But think of the fuels economy with the current power plant! I'm picturing Mick seated, helmet on, rumbling down the street muttering "varooooom, varooooooom, varoooom, whump, whump, whump!"

One of those varooom's is longer than the other one.  He may want to check his timing.  :D
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #395 on: October 30, 2014, 05:02:02 am »
Mick - some stud manufacturers use a stud lubricant when installing to derive full torque. If you used Antiseize, then you're fine. Some type of thread sealant is always a great idea to prevent galling.

RestoFan - classic! Made my day, thanks  :D
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #396 on: October 30, 2014, 12:32:30 pm »
Re the seal, you're correct metal face in. The 14-16ft/lbs is the recommendation for the nut on top of the stud. Studs into the aluminum case should be less but I've never seen a torque value for that. The only thing that comes to mind is the Kibblewhite studs I've used recommend oil on the threads and 8ft/lbs in the case. Long threads into the case as well.

EDIT, I should have finished my thought on the studs....they should bottom out in the hole, then finish torque to 8lbs. At least that is what KPMI recommends.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #397 on: October 30, 2014, 01:05:23 pm »
Thanks bwaller.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #398 on: October 30, 2014, 02:28:48 pm »
Just thinking bwaller are you related to Fats Waller?

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #399 on: October 30, 2014, 07:23:48 pm »
Just thinking bwaller are you related to Fats Waller?

Yeah, that's me.  ::)