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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #225 on: July 30, 2014, 06:10:04 AM »
He took the bait... Now his board will blow up with replies. Dave, you're incorrigible. Can't believe you'd setup a mate like that-

Tried to warn you, Mick.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #226 on: July 31, 2014, 04:52:25 PM »
No work on the 500 for the next 2 weeks, away on holidays.

Good news is I'm going for a ride down the Great Ocean Rd.

One of the best bike riding roads in the world, ocean and cliff on the left mountains on the right. Check it out!


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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #227 on: July 31, 2014, 07:36:52 PM »
WOW....looks awesome. What bike you riding?
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #228 on: July 31, 2014, 09:05:32 PM »
Point break?
1969 Honda CB750... Basket case
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #229 on: August 01, 2014, 04:46:34 PM »
Don't laugh Stevo but a my daughter's 250 Honda. I'm on a learners licence and in Australia it restricts you to 250 and under. She's on her Triunph 600 Street Triple!

It'll still be a blast, (Geelong - Lorne - Forrest - Geelong) then return up through the mountains via Forrest (check it out on Google Earth)

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #230 on: August 01, 2014, 04:57:46 PM »
Don't laugh Stevo but a my daughter's 250 Honda. I'm on a learners licence and in Australia it restricts you to 250 and under. She's on her Triunph 600 Street Triple!

It'll still be a blast, (Geelong - Lorne - Forrest - Geelong) then return up through the mountains via Forrest (check it out on Google Earth)

Trying not to laugh!  I'm sure it will be a blast, and special to ride with your daughter.   I'd want the Triple, though.
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CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #231 on: August 01, 2014, 05:39:00 PM »
When you're a father it doesn't matter if your kids have something better than you. In fact you're pleased it's that way. Until you have kids you can't fully appreciate that you prefer them to have the better thing and you're satisfied to see them have it.

After riding again after 35+ years I'm quite happy to take it easy on the 250, although I'm still getting the urge to fang it as in the old days, I still reckon I'll beat the 600 to Lorne.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #232 on: August 02, 2014, 02:23:06 AM »
haven't you heard of the "lams" approved over 250cc bikes for learners?
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/licensing/tests/motorcycleridertrainingscheme/motorcyclesnoviceriders.html

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #233 on: August 02, 2014, 02:35:42 AM »
even the 550 is lams approved.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #234 on: August 02, 2014, 03:21:22 AM »
Thanks Dave, and yes I've heard of Lams approved, I believe the 500 will be ok to ride according to Lams.

The reason I bought and are restoring the 500 is because I rode a mates 500 in '72, it was such a blast, light handled and revved its head off.

I've ridden Commandos, BSA Rocket 3, Triumphs had a '74 Bonnie 750 also a Trident, Hondas had a '72 750, and many others but I remember the 500 as the most fun to throw around and it went like the clappers. 

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #235 on: August 02, 2014, 06:30:00 AM »
Not to be a snoot, but you do realize they made bikes after 1974 don't you, Mick? ::)
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #236 on: August 02, 2014, 09:53:25 AM »
Thanks Dave, and yes I've heard of Lams approved, I believe the 500 will be ok to ride according to Lams.

The reason I bought and are restoring the 500 is because I rode a mates 500 in '72, it was such a blast, light handled and revved its head off.

I've ridden Commandos, BSA Rocket 3, Triumphs had a '74 Bonnie 750 also a Trident, Hondas had a '72 750, and many others but I remember the 500 as the most fun to throw around and it went like the clappers. 




I give up, what is a clapper?

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #237 on: August 03, 2014, 07:33:26 PM »
sorry for the hijack Mick and thanks to those who answered my questions.  Back to sohc talk lads...Larry

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #238 on: August 06, 2014, 12:44:49 AM »
and don't use the word clappers,it just causes trouble.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #239 on: August 08, 2014, 12:01:20 PM »
Yes David,

let us avoid the usage of such words. Oh it is 9pm, the clapper in the bell in the church in town is striking 9 times.

Oops sorry,

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #240 on: August 10, 2014, 02:47:36 AM »
let me remind you of the last time that word was uttered.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=130299.msg1585129#msg1585129

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #241 on: August 10, 2014, 06:04:28 AM »
Glad to see you recovered your thread, Mick. Looking forward to updates to it from your progress!
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #242 on: August 13, 2014, 11:30:27 AM »
Q. Will the exhaust off a '76 CB 550 fit a 500?
Can anyone advise?
It's this vs $2500+ for 500 exhaust from CSMNL, I don't want to but the cost differential is a big part of the decision.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #243 on: August 13, 2014, 11:51:41 AM »
Q. Will the exhaust off a '76 CB 550 fit a 500?
Can anyone advise?
It's this vs $2500+ for 500 exhaust from CSMNL, I don't want to but the cost differential is a big part of the decision.
Yes, the 500/550 heads are the same on the exhaust port. Where you "might" encounter a little issue is the 4:4 pipes along the brake pedal area. Often you encounter conflict with differing years pipes against differing frames.

Yours being a 500, I think it will work in your favor.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #244 on: August 13, 2014, 11:55:31 AM »
Cal thanks, you're a champ, but I'm still balancing "full restoration" against a major corner cutting with the 550 exhaust. I'm leaning more towards the CSMNL pipes.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #245 on: August 13, 2014, 12:00:20 PM »
I don't envy that decision. While I fully understand the desire for factory "correct", you'd think that could be mitigated by NLA and opt for a non-OEM version of mild steels with reverse cones with a nice ceramic coating. Chaser60 did a very sharp resto-mod and used such an approach. Heresey perhaps, but it caught my eye as a very reasonable alternative.

Then again, there's always the $1200-$2000 factory corrects...
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #246 on: August 15, 2014, 03:31:41 PM »
The verdict will come down to a money decision.  I've asked a manufacturer if they do 4 into 2 pipes (they do them for 750s), I'm waiting for a reply.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #247 on: August 16, 2014, 04:47:04 AM »
Finished putting the valve collets in, and completed cleaning and reinstalling all the gears and thrust washers etc.







Got to locate the parts for the Gear Shift mechanism.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #248 on: August 16, 2014, 04:53:22 AM »
Valve compressor worked a treat

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #249 on: August 19, 2014, 03:27:21 AM »
Did a little work on the electrics, started the cleaning process and fitting to the supporting plate.