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« Reply #325 on: October 09, 2014, 04:20:19 pm »
RTB

I got it from ebay - joemama

Just watch out the Honda stencil is not quite level.



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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #326 on: October 09, 2014, 04:24:27 pm »
How about the chrome strip? where  did you get that
thanks, Mark
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« Reply #327 on: October 09, 2014, 04:29:12 pm »
Got the trim from SohRons tip, "Openspc" on ebay, it hasn't arrived yet but I trust SohRon's advice.

Photo shows trim is nice and deep not like the first strip I bought very shinny strip, more like a strip you'd use on a car door.

Buckles o think came from 4 into 1.



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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #328 on: October 09, 2014, 05:52:18 pm »
You should also check out gumtwo as a seller on ebay for seat covers.  Great quality and high ratings!  I bought a seat cover from him/her for my 550.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #329 on: October 09, 2014, 06:27:21 pm »
You should also check out gumtwo as a seller on ebay for seat covers.  Great quality and high ratings!  I bought a seat cover from him/her for my 550.

I have used gumtwo, not sure about the 550 but the 500 has that odd ball cover with the cover and chrome as one piece. There is a guy selling a very close replica but the price is outrageous. Ill take a look at what you guys are getting and suggested.
thanks, Mark
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« Reply #330 on: October 12, 2014, 10:41:52 am »
Got plenty done on Saturday, finished lacquering all the cases, bogged the tank where it's been welded with a new piece put in and got some painting done.

Seat hinge



Tank with bog and prep coat of etch primer



Seat coming together.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #331 on: October 16, 2014, 12:25:00 am »
Forks are on



Rear pegs, chain guard, shocks, inner rear guard and grunt rail



Can someone please explain how this attaches



To this



Or is it a USA grunt rail and I've got a wrong part?

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #332 on: October 16, 2014, 03:25:20 am »
wrong part on the rear signal

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #333 on: October 16, 2014, 03:27:28 am »
MoMo where does the part I have go? Maybe the rail is different in the Australian model?

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #334 on: October 16, 2014, 03:33:06 am »
MoMo where does the part I have go? Maybe the rail is different in the Australian model?



the turn signal mount is different,  I believe the rail you show is from an earlier model that uses the smaller signals.   There was a bracket that slips over the mount.  The signal mount is for the larger later signals. 

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« Reply #335 on: October 16, 2014, 03:36:58 am »
Thanks MoMo I'm sure you're right, I got the rail from the U.S., a member of SOHC, I'll have to get the correct pats to suit.

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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #336 on: October 17, 2014, 08:31:12 am »
The small black mount is UK type which does not have the rear grab bar like the US. For a parts list try Motogrid
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« Reply #337 on: October 17, 2014, 01:29:40 pm »
Thanks Bryan, tried motogrid no luck
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« Reply #338 on: October 17, 2014, 02:47:23 pm »
Bryan I just checked out English export CB500K0 on CSMNL  and it shows the same rail as I have and the Black Mounts, it's hard for me to see where they mount onto the rear?
Do you have any photos?

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« Reply #339 on: October 18, 2014, 02:52:52 am »
Got a fairway with the restoration of seat,, new rubbers underneath and waiting in the trim SohRon suggested, should be here next week. Still more to do yet.

Very unhappy with the vinyl seat cover from JoeMama on eBay, Honda logo not level, seat stitching not square. I've sent a complaint to JoeMama, buy at your peril.







Now to figure out how to put the seat lock back together.



All the rezinced carby parts are back, next rebuild carbies, get wheels tried and new rubber.
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #340 on: October 18, 2014, 07:00:14 am »
best thing to do with  an Ebay problem  is contact the seller.  If  he does not respond, or respond unsatisfactorily, then file an item not as described with Ebay-they tend to side with the buyer....Larry

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« Reply #341 on: October 18, 2014, 08:45:39 am »
That sucks.  Hopefully, the seller will make it right. 
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Re: CB 500 Four (1972?) Full Restoration
« Reply #342 on: October 20, 2014, 12:58:30 am »
Mick, the UK did not have a grab rail just a small handle on the LH side to help you get the bike on the mainstand, same part as 750.

try this link   http://www.motogrid.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=HOM#/Honda/CB500K1_A__MOTORCYCLE%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB500-2000001/TURN_SIGNAL/CB500K1-JPN-A/2Y143230F14323026A

and you can see the parts to get the blinkers to fit on the grab rail you have
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« Reply #343 on: October 20, 2014, 12:52:02 pm »
Bryan thanks mate but I'm having trouble finding the link you've posted.
Could you post a photo of the parts?

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« Reply #344 on: October 20, 2014, 10:15:27 pm »
Sorry both scanner and camers gone futt and lack of funds stop replacemant but that link is just Motogrid and look at bikes with no year then 74 550 and indicators
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« Reply #345 on: October 21, 2014, 01:34:12 am »
Bryan thanks, I couldn't find it using my iphone but I used the computer and see what you're talking about, unfortunately I still don't have the stems shown on the schematic.
I have the little black ones (see photos above) and they don't fit the grab bar I have.

Just looked at the photos of the seat, it's still got along way to go before it's finished.
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« Reply #346 on: October 21, 2014, 11:25:52 pm »
You cant have the grab rail AND the small black mountings it's either or
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« Reply #347 on: October 21, 2014, 11:41:37 pm »
Yes that's right,
Bryan, somehow I think we're saying the same thing differently and thus the confusion.
I'm using the blinkers that go on the rail, thus the stoppers L & R and the stems as per the schematic, I'm in the process of buying the parts.
I still don't know how to mount the little black indicator mounts, I can see them on the blinker schematic, but not where they mount? And I haven't seen a photo from anyone where and how they bolt onto the frame.

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« Reply #348 on: October 21, 2014, 11:43:54 pm »
Good news JoeMama is coming to the party with a new seat cover

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« Reply #349 on: October 23, 2014, 02:41:24 am »
Back from the chromers - yahoo!



Can someone advise re truing the wheels, ok with lateral adjustments but the vertical adjustment is a struggle the wheel is out by about 1/4 inch.
The rim is obviously out of round and I need to loosen one side and tighten the other. I have part 1/8th inch of some spokes sticking out the nipple and will puncture the tube. I suppose I could always file off the offending part, but I would have thought the spokes should all be approximately even when tightened.





Q. Will I be able to get it true with 1/4 inch out of round?

Swinging Arm bolt and nut looks beautiful.

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