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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2013, 08:39:41 AM »
Have you ever tried the Wintergreen trick on the hard boots?
No, never really felt the need. I like the better clamps. Most of what I have read seems to say they can swell bigger than normal and eventually seem to shrink back and get hard again. No personnel experience though.

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« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2013, 09:33:30 AM »
I recently tried it.  I seem so see ALL positive results in using the method.  Where there have been problems with swelling is when you leave it in the mix to long.  You can use either water or Xylene as the carrier to get the Wintergreen into the rubber.  The Wintergreen is the primary ingredient in a number of rubber restores, rubber softener for racing tires, etc.  There is one member who did it 5-years ago and says the rubber is still as supple as when it came out of the mix!

I used the water as there is a fire risk in using the Xylene.  You accelerate opening  the pores in the rubber by heating.  So if you can safely heat (questionable) the Xylene you maybe able to reduce the bath from say several hours to maybe an hour or so, I have no experience with this.

I purchased a crock-pot from the local salvation army store for $6 as some members mentioned using a crock-pot.  Problem was I was never able to get a rolling boil with the crock-pot.  I left it in the crock-pot for like 8-hours as high as the crock-pot would go (maybe 170 degrees) and it did not improve the rubber at all.  I'm going to use a camp stove now and an old pot to get it to boiling as ALL others have said this works great and you would typically let it boil for like 30 to 45 mins using this method.  Using water the Wintergreen (oil) separates as opposed to the Wintergreen and Xylene, so the boiling emulsifies the oil and the combination of say 220 degrees opens the pores and allows the Wintergreen to get into the rubber.

Others question how this could be a long term solution but, have not tried it!  The longest member says 5-years and it still great.

I was talking to a guy the other day who purchased some aftermarket hoses and he says the mold for the aftermarket hose was actually taken from a used set of hoses and the new hoses included the imprints from the original spigots down to the blemishes from the original clamps.

I realize some versions of the hoses are available OEM but I'm thinking its like $70 each.  Also I have the "F" and they are a little different, shorter I think, and it seems even the OEM's do not take into consideration these slight differences.  In other words you order the OEM hoses for the "F" and you get the "K" hoses.

I have ordered several OEM parts only to find some differences between my original stock and the replacement OEM.  Probably not significant performance or fit changes, but changes none the less.  In the case of the hose differences between say the "F" and the "K" I assume you can tune/sync the carb to accommodate the differences or maybe there is no effect.  But if I can purchase a quart of Wintergreen for $12 and boil them back to supple/sealable condition, why not give it a shot.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2013, 02:00:58 PM »
 "KO" Gold and "K1" Gold is a different shade ... ;)
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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2013, 07:46:51 PM »
Well, he won't go under $3500.00 and my old bike. Here's a couple more photos. I wasn't able to go up this past weekend, but I might get to see it in person tomorrow night. I'm still having trouble justifying spending this kind of coin.

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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2013, 07:51:28 PM »
What is your bikes value?
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? A Couple of New Photos...
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2013, 11:01:08 PM »
Looks good to me mate, don't think about it, just do it! ;D
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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2013, 07:53:56 AM »
I dunno man, that is a really really nice resto mod. If you really want an eye catching cb750 $3500 plus your pile isn't bad at all.

Personally I can think of other bikes I would rather have for $3500, but then again I already own multiple cb750s and some of them are nice enough.
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? A Couple of New Photos...
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2013, 09:56:13 AM »
Looks like the bike I saw on Kijiji ...  probably is as I see you are also from Sk!

That seems like a pretty reasonable price. I know I have $3k+ in just my engine build... FYI

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Re: What Should I Pay For This? A Couple of New Photos...
« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2013, 04:08:10 PM »


Personally I can think of other bikes I would rather have for $3500, but then again I already own multiple cb750s and some of them are nice enough.

+1.  Keep in mind, Terry is in OZ [no offense Uncle Terry].
Bikes there can cost twice as much as in the States.
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« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2013, 11:52:26 PM »
Yep, if you Macaroons want a laugh, check out eBay Oz, you'll #$%*t your pants when you see bikes not as nice as that one for $10K! ;D
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? A Couple of New Photos...
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2013, 09:04:55 PM »
Well, I finally took the time, (5 hours round trip) to look at it today... I'm glad I did, but it's not for me. I thought the head and some engine case parts had been polished, but they have actually been chromed. Odd. The paint colour seemed off and not really well done. The owner knew virtually nothing about the engine rebuild. It took forever to get it started and when I told him it was running on 3 cylinders he seemed unhappy. I pointed out that one pipe was cold and we cut a bit off the plug wire and it ran ok, but wouldn't idle. He wouldn't let me run it through the gears. I can see beyond these things, but when you're selling a $3500.00 to $4500.00 bike...?  The frame was in the right range for a 1971 but the engine had a serial number from 1978!  It seemed to me to be about a $1500.00 bike, not a $3500.00 bike. Thanks for all the advice and direction... the quest continues!
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2013, 01:02:04 AM »
It took forever to get it started and when I told him it was running on 3 cylinders he seemed unhappy. I pointed out that one pipe was cold and we cut a bit off the plug wire and it ran ok, but wouldn't idle...
wow...sucks you had to drive that far
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2013, 01:57:18 AM »
I'd be more worried about it having a 1978 engine, suddenly the value has taken a massive dive. What a shame, but that's probably why he hasn't managed to sell it as yet. ;D 
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2013, 08:09:19 AM »
Think we have all had an epic wild goose chase or two looking for these.

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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2013, 08:52:21 AM »
Learning experience however and you went into it well informed, sounds like the right decision!!  Thank God for the Forum!!!
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2013, 09:17:16 AM »
So what is the chrome problem? Easier to take care of and cost around 4-5 hundred to get it done. So depending on who did it, it can add value..if you want chrome.
 Its a 72 topend; if the lower was switched, hope they lined the chain up...
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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2013, 09:39:57 AM »
So what is the chrome problem? Easier to take care of and cost around 4-5 hundred to get it done. So depending on who did it, it can add value..if you want chrome.
 Its a 72 topend; if the lower was switched, hope they lined the chain up...
I'm not opposed to chrome, but I prefer bikes that come across as stock to be stock unless it's meant to be a cafe or bobber... personal preference. The chrome was also bubbling in some spots so there was more work was to come. Funny you mention the 72 top end with the 78 lower case. When I asked about the chain which I thought should be 530, (stock, I think) he said he had changed it to a 630. Maybe that's why? He also said he had plugged the chain oiler, but I thought that was eliminated by 78?
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« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2013, 09:44:47 AM »
Why does it have vacuum operated carbs on that CB750?
What are they from? (REPLY#12)

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« Reply #69 on: October 20, 2013, 09:49:51 AM »
Nice looking K1 that begs to be ridden and presents itself as a well done “preservation” rather than a correct restoration.     

The Honda 750 used two different color codes for candy gold, the codes are found at the end of the part number.

The K0 and K1 used color code: CQ

The K2 used color code: LX

Pre-barcode label examples of CQ candy gold:

Bar codes???? LOL.lol

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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #70 on: October 20, 2013, 09:51:33 AM »
Why does it have vacuum operated carbs on that CB750?
What are they from? (REPLY#12)
Terry in Australia may have the answer... that's his photo.

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Re: What Should I Pay For This?
« Reply #71 on: October 20, 2013, 10:31:48 AM »
Nice looking K1 that begs to be ridden and presents itself as a well done “preservation” rather than a correct restoration.     

The Honda 750 used two different color codes for candy gold, the codes are found at the end of the part number.

The K0 and K1 used color code: CQ

The K2 used color code: LX

Pre-barcode label examples of CQ candy gold:

Bar codes???? LOL.lol

Yes, barcodes.

When Honda went to the barcode system, their painted replacement parts were often a poor match to the original color. A pre-barcode painted replacement part offers an authentic color example to go by. Go back to reply #23 and see the early pre-barcode label example. Most owners don't know/don't care, but some do.
 

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Re: What Should I Pay For This? Went to Look at it Today...!
« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2013, 09:30:48 PM »
 I am pretty surprised that from the photos you were not complaining about price, then felt it was worth less than 1/2 upon. Seeing it.
 Re the seller.
 He is either ignorant of the chain spacing difference.. Which is not the end of the world..
 OR he knows and is BSing,, which means take everything he says with a grain of salt..
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« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2013, 12:22:42 AM »
Why does it have vacuum operated carbs on that CB750?
What are they from? (REPLY#12)

They're modified 32mm CV carbs from a Honda CBX750 re-spaced to fit the 836cc CB750F2 engine in my K2.

The motorcycle engineer (and mechanical enginnering lecturer) who built the bike thought that the original PD carbs were crap, and as he'd had success with CV carbs on race bikes, he used that experience with my bike.

You'll note that he also modified a stock airbox to suit, and that bike is probably the best sorted CB750 I've ever ridden, including the one I bought new. ;D 
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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