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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #150 on: December 09, 2021, 08:30:37 AM »
That is not cheap!
I bought mine Yamiya No numbers  2015.

The rate then landed at around $1250US (150.000 Yen)
+50% today!! :( :(
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #151 on: December 09, 2021, 09:30:59 AM »
I just got my 4-4 set for my Z1 project and I didn’t pay anywhere near that. I feel lucky, I seemed to have timed it well. Dumb luck.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #152 on: December 09, 2021, 10:22:37 AM »
Maybe a good idea to investigate  Z1-900 new parts. Exhausts,  tank sets etc

Finding a project is not cheap, but the total can be not that bad then ;D

CB750 parts prices have increased some the last years.

Edit:
First search like the CB750 no numbers should cost as max
https://z1parts.net/exhaust-set-complete-z1-900-kz900-made-in-japan/

Tanksets with all emblems cost less than Yamiya CB750 stuff.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
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The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #153 on: December 09, 2021, 11:17:28 AM »
 I like those. If I could back off on buying cb750's and sell a few, I'd make a z1 clone from my 80 ltd. Orange, brown 4-4's and a flat seat. Shocks with reflectors are available but forks with reflectors would be the hardest part.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2021, 12:08:33 PM »
I like this forum!
Really easy to get good ideas and inspiration to make money to roll on something really fun!!
Order all good parts, then look for a bike ;D
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2021, 01:24:10 PM »
Well, one thing seems to be true about the exhaust systems for the 750 and other vintage bikes. The price hasn't seen a drop, other than market fluctuating because of money exchange rates...
No one has came into the market making an equal quality set of pipes for much lower price to impact the asking price.

So, is it a good idea to grab a set of pipes as early as you can afford them, even if you don't need them right then, to have them later when you do, or to resell them later?

I guess it depends upon how much the prices are creeping higher with time if they are worth the investment...
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #156 on: December 09, 2021, 03:47:02 PM »
Quote from: PeWe on December 09, 2021, 10:22:37 AM


Edit:
First search like the CB750 no numbers should cost as max
https://z1parts.net/exhaust-set-complete-z1-900-kz900-made-in-japan/

That's where I bought the pipes for my Z1. It was about seven years ago and IIRC, they were about $1250 shipped, great product and price.  Still a fair price at $1380.  Back then, I would call and speak with the owner and he would discount prices if I was buying a large quantity of parts. Ahhh..the good ol days!



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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #157 on: December 09, 2021, 05:37:11 PM »
Same place for this KZ1000 a few years ago. Great service and prices!
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #158 on: December 09, 2021, 05:54:06 PM »
 The prices rise according to demand and right now we've been a year and a half with few for sale. I've been watching them pretty closely. I've paid from $1200 to $1800. An ebay seller repeatedly sold them until the market got soft, that's where I got the $1200 set. I could not believe I didn't get sniped at the end.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #159 on: December 16, 2021, 04:18:57 PM »
Nice bike but how do you get it off the ceiling?


Quote from: BenelliSEI on December 09, 2021, 05:37:11 PM
Same place for this KZ1000 a few years ago. Great service and prices!
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #160 on: December 17, 2021, 10:29:53 AM »
Quote from: alacrity on December 16, 2021, 04:18:57 PM
Nice bike but how do you get it off the ceiling?


Quote from: BenelliSEI on December 09, 2021, 05:37:11 PM
Same place for this KZ1000 a few years ago. Great service and prices!

Some of my photos post like that! When you tap to enlarge, the come off the ceiling.....
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #161 on: December 17, 2021, 10:38:24 AM »
Quote from: BenelliSEI on December 17, 2021, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: alacrity on December 16, 2021, 04:18:57 PM
Nice bike but how do you get it off the ceiling?


Quote from: BenelliSEI on December 09, 2021, 05:37:11 PM
Same place for this KZ1000 a few years ago. Great service and prices!

Some of my photos post like that! When you tap to enlarge, the come off the ceiling.....
Look really fine on Tapatalk.
Z1-900/1000 are really nice bikes I really want to have. Very tempting to see them here! ;D
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #162 on: December 19, 2021, 10:24:21 AM »
 Frank once said, if you tilt the camera the pics lose orientation.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Not now, no New nono's!
« Reply #163 on: December 25, 2021, 06:10:07 AM »
Quote from: PeWe on December 06, 2021, 03:15:09 AM
You can order now, 8 sets when I checked a few minutes ago.
https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB750K1-FOUR-1971/part_217723/

Will the NoNo pipes fit a K3??
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #164 on: December 25, 2021, 06:18:21 AM »
Quote from: samfig on December 25, 2021, 06:10:07 AM
Quote from: PeWe on December 06, 2021, 03:15:09 AM
You can order now, 8 sets when I checked a few minutes ago.
https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB750K1-FOUR-1971/part_217723/

Will the NoNo pipes fit a K3??
Yes,
I have had my no numbers on my K6, now my K2.
They fit K0-K6.
Bike will run better than it did with stock HM341.

 Jetting stock carbs for these better flowing pipes with stock airbox:
Air screw 1 turn out. (My K2 has -1/8)
Needles 4th notch from top
Main jet 115
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CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #165 on: December 26, 2021, 07:40:20 AM »
 I'm still surprised DSS and CMSNL have batches of 4-4 pipes to sell but Yamiya and WeBike have not.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #166 on: December 26, 2021, 08:26:20 AM »
Yes, that is very strange. Yamiya was the place before when all others had none.

The sudden price increase is alarming.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #167 on: December 30, 2021, 10:11:58 AM »
 If not for the price increase, I might buy a set on spec. It looks like DSS has over 10 sets in stock. I wonder if any are in the US? 
  A local used car dealer has let his lot go empty because he won't pay the auction prices. The only car left is a Dale Earnhardt edition Monte Carlo. $$  Maybe it's the same at Yamiya and WeBike.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #168 on: December 30, 2021, 10:18:18 AM »
Quote from: Don R on December 30, 2021, 10:11:58 AM
  It looks like DSS has over 10 sets in stock. I wonder if any are in the US? 

Appears like they do...

https://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB750K1-FOUR-1971/part_217723/
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #169 on: December 30, 2021, 12:17:08 PM »
Quote from: Don R on December 30, 2021, 10:11:58 AM
If not for the price increase, I might buy a set on spec. It looks like DSS has over 10 sets in stock. I wonder if any are in the US? 
  A local used car dealer has let his lot go empty because he won't pay the auction prices. The only car left is a Dale Earnhardt edition Monte Carlo. $$  Maybe it's the same at Yamiya and WeBike.
I have seen a few Instagram posts of japanese guys(and gals!) getting new 4 into 4's recently.  Unfortunately, did not think to try google translate to see what might really be going on, and that is often pointless with Japanese anyway.  I wonder if they are just not being offered to the U.S. for shipping reasons?
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #170 on: December 30, 2021, 12:33:52 PM »
Ha!  I bought the "last" set on Christmas day fearing there was going to be a dry spell ... But I guess not.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. at DSS maybe 8 sets.
« Reply #171 on: May 08, 2022, 12:25:49 PM »
 Someone on Facebook said there are mountains of exhausts sitting in the warehouses in Japan but shipping is problematic due to the cost of containers. I'm not sure if this was opinion or if there is evidence.
  DSS is/was getting them somehow. He uses wooden crates to ship bikes and parts back and forth to the US. maybe they also go to Asia.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. just not here.
« Reply #172 on: May 08, 2022, 12:32:37 PM »
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. just not here.
« Reply #173 on: October 10, 2022, 11:01:58 AM »
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust discussion. Now, numerous new no no's. just not here.
« Reply #174 on: October 10, 2022, 02:30:44 PM »
No numbers are on my K3 750, they run and sound great.
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