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I’m interested in who it was who had problems installing Yamiya pipes Don? Someone here? My only problem installing mine recently was more than likely caused by a previous owner dropping the bike on its left side and slightly bending the rear footpeg hanger, which required some “panel beating” so I could install the 14mm mounting bolt. Apart from that, they went on easy peasy. ;D

Terry…. I’ve installed three sets for myself and a few for others. No real issues.

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I’m interested in who it was who had problems installing Yamiya pipes Don? Someone here? My only problem installing mine recently was more than likely caused by a previous owner dropping the bike on its left side and slightly bending the rear footpeg hanger, which required some “panel beating” so I could install the 14mm mounting bolt. Apart from that, they went on easy peasy. ;D

Terry…. I’ve installed three sets for myself and a few for others. No real issues.


Thanks John, yeah, I had new Yamiya clamps and exhaust stubs when I built the bike in 2020. We took them off to remove the engine and installed new exhaust gaskets when we put it back together and I was happy with how easily the new headers went on, and happy that everything lined up so well.

I’ve seen some pics of a Busso system that an Aussie FB member installed (after waiting more than a year for them to arrive) and he had all sorts of issues with poor fit, and really poor alignment of the equaliser tubes, (not even close) and having to use 10mm bolts to attach the rear pegs and mount the mufflers because the OEM bolts were impossible to install due to misalignment issues. He’s not happy, and I don’t blame him. ;D
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I’m interested in who it was who had problems installing Yamiya pipes Don? Someone here? My only problem installing mine recently was more than likely caused by a previous owner dropping the bike on its left side and slightly bending the rear footpeg hanger, which required some “panel beating” so I could install the 14mm mounting bolt. Apart from that, they went on easy peasy. ;D

Terry…. I’ve installed three sets for myself and a few for others. No real issues.


Thanks John, yeah, I had new Yamiya clamps and exhaust stubs when I built the bike in 2020. We took them off to remove the engine and installed new exhaust gaskets when we put it back together and I was happy with how easily the new headers went on, and happy that everything lined up so well.

I’ve seen some pics of a Busso system that an Aussie FB member installed (after waiting more than a year for them to arrive) and he had all sorts of issues with poor fit, and really poor alignment of the equaliser tubes, (not even close) and having to use 10mm bolts to attach the rear pegs and mount the mufflers because the OEM bolts were impossible to install due to misalignment issues. He’s not happy, and I don’t blame him. ;D

The KO looks great!

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I’m interested in who it was who had problems installing Yamiya pipes Don? Someone here? My only problem installing mine recently was more than likely caused by a previous owner dropping the bike on its left side and slightly bending the rear footpeg hanger, which required some “panel beating” so I could install the 14mm mounting bolt. Apart from that, they went on easy peasy. ;D

Terry…. I’ve installed three sets for myself and a few for others. No real issues.


Thanks John, yeah, I had new Yamiya clamps and exhaust stubs when I built the bike in 2020. We took them off to remove the engine and installed new exhaust gaskets when we put it back together and I was happy with how easily the new headers went on, and happy that everything lined up so well.

I’ve seen some pics of a Busso system that an Aussie FB member installed (after waiting more than a year for them to arrive) and he had all sorts of issues with poor fit, and really poor alignment of the equaliser tubes, (not even close) and having to use 10mm bolts to attach the rear pegs and mount the mufflers because the OEM bolts were impossible to install due to misalignment issues. He’s not happy, and I don’t blame him. ;D

The KO looks great!

Thanks John, it’s far from “Show quality” so once I’m retired I think I’ll completely strip it down and rebuild it again, but for the time being as long as it remains reliable I’m just going to ride the wheels off it! ;D
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 I had a Yamiya pipe that with the peg bolt in place, it didn't reach far enough onto the #3 or #4 exhaust stub, I wrapped it with a towel and used a piece of wood with a mallet to encourage the pipe to meet the engine. When it got together, I tightened the flange.
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My Yamiya pipes, No numbers and Lotus Root can glide off a little at head spigot when fitting them.

I removed rear thick bolt, swung down the pipe and let it glide on the spigot without any abuse. Rear up again and fit the bolt.

I have used a luggage strap around the entire engine with pipes to keep them in place until rear bolts are in place.
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  I have the two sets of Busso pipes and really am not so excited about it. I resent having to kiss butt to get what I faithfully paid for and to help everyone else from the group buy.
  Here we are again with no Yamiya's in stock, had I known I would have waited for them rather than buy the CMS 341's or the no stamp Busso pipes. A year ago I was excited to get them on two bikes, now the luster is gone and they sit in the boxes.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #957 on: November 10, 2024, 03:26:39 AM »
Don, I know you had one set of pipes that went back and forth in Italy first. Have you recently got another set now delivered?

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #958 on: November 11, 2024, 09:19:49 AM »
  Yes, I did finally get both sets. I had to promise to advertise how wonderful they are and make an installation video. It was a promise made under duress, to get what was owed to me, so it doesn't count.
  I think the product is a passable one but clearly not as good as Yamiya which I consider to be equal to genuine Honda. Delivery was around a year late.
 Busso still needs to up their game, and I fail to see how they save their reputation after this debacle.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #959 on: November 11, 2024, 09:23:02 AM »
I had a Yamiya pipe that with the peg bolt in place, it didn't reach far enough onto the #3 or #4 exhaust stub, I wrapped it with a towel and used a piece of wood with a mallet to encourage the pipe to meet the engine. When it got together, I tightened the flange.

 To be clear, this was only one pipe out of 3 gorgeous sets of Yamiya no number pipes and the adjustment was easy. Even the 341's from cmsnl installed easily, I'd still love to know who makes them.
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I’m interested in who it was who had problems installing Yamiya pipes Don? Someone here? My only problem installing mine recently was more than likely caused by a previous owner dropping the bike on its left side and slightly bending the rear footpeg hanger, which required some “panel beating” so I could install the 14mm mounting bolt. Apart from that, they went on easy peasy. ;D

Terry…. I’ve installed three sets for myself and a few for others. No real issues.


Thanks John, yeah, I had new Yamiya clamps and exhaust stubs when I built the bike in 2020. We took them off to remove the engine and installed new exhaust gaskets when we put it back together and I was happy with how easily the new headers went on, and happy that everything lined up so well.

I’ve seen some pics of a Busso system that an Aussie FB member installed (after waiting more than a year for them to arrive) and he had all sorts of issues with poor fit, and really poor alignment of the equaliser tubes, (not even close) and having to use 10mm bolts to attach the rear pegs and mount the mufflers because the OEM bolts were impossible to install due to misalignment issues. He’s not happy, and I don’t blame him. ;D

The KO looks great!

Thanks John, it’s far from “Show quality” so once I’m retired I think I’ll completely strip it down and rebuild it again, but for the time being as long as it remains reliable I’m just going to ride the wheels off it! ;D

Terry….. Forget “show quality”. Whenever I do that it really means “never ridden”. My favourite is my cb750K1 which is lovely, but gets used regularly. That’s the best finish! 

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Don, count me as not receiving my 300's yet after almost 16 months.
Here's Dario's latest:

"hello, we are working to ship everyone we are only working for delays it takes a moment more patience but we will get to everyone In thanking you, we offer cordial greetings" DARIO

Any influence you have with Busso would be welcomed.
UPDATE, It's been a month and a half since Dario's good news " It takes a moment more patience" but not surprisingly he has stopped communicating again and of course no pipes.

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #962 on: November 11, 2024, 09:53:22 PM »
 I saw a marketplace ad that looked a lot like busso, it had a sports car, motorcycles and 4-4 sets for sale. I assumed it was Dario fund raising to try to stay afloat. I'm sorry to hear that you still didn't get yours, I was hoping they had all shipped. I think the group buy was filled but to be honest, I quit the group what'sapp thread. I think even the guy in New Zealand finally got his set.
 I was surprised to see that mine came on the same tracking numbers from a year ago, the street name was in Italian but ups has been here a lot so I'm in the system.
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Don, count me as not receiving my 300's yet after almost 16 months.
Here's Dario's latest:

"hello, we are working to ship everyone we are only working for delays it takes a moment more patience but we will get to everyone In thanking you, we offer cordial greetings" DARIO

Any influence you have with Busso would be welcomed.
UPDATE, It's been a month and a half since Dario's good news " It takes a moment more patience" but not surprisingly he has stopped communicating again and of course no pipes.
That really sucks that you still haven't received your pipes yet and that you are being ghosted by Dario. I hope he gets it together for you.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #964 on: November 12, 2024, 06:45:32 AM »
The "no no" pipes here seem to be no pipes.
Yamiya "no no" pipes is no numbers stamped on them as some CB750 got from factory.

This must be very bad for the sellers reputation that gladly received the money but does not deliver. No refund mentioned either.

Most sellers with delivery issues on eBay have been very eager to refund money very quick, a little too quick for parts I need for a good price.
I usually say I can wait a little longer with max time to force money back via eBay or PayPal in my mind.
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #965 on: November 13, 2024, 10:13:26 PM »
I’m interested in who it was who had problems installing Yamiya pipes Don? Someone here? My only problem installing mine recently was more than likely caused by a previous owner dropping the bike on its left side and slightly bending the rear footpeg hanger, which required some “panel beating” so I could install the 14mm mounting bolt. Apart from that, they went on easy peasy. ;D

Terry…. I’ve installed three sets for myself and a few for others. No real issues.


Thanks John, yeah, I had new Yamiya clamps and exhaust stubs when I built the bike in 2020. We took them off to remove the engine and installed new exhaust gaskets when we put it back together and I was happy with how easily the new headers went on, and happy that everything lined up so well.

I’ve seen some pics of a Busso system that an Aussie FB member installed (after waiting more than a year for them to arrive) and he had all sorts of issues with poor fit, and really poor alignment of the equaliser tubes, (not even close) and having to use 10mm bolts to attach the rear pegs and mount the mufflers because the OEM bolts were impossible to install due to misalignment issues. He’s not happy, and I don’t blame him. ;D

The KO looks great!

Thanks John, it’s far from “Show quality” so once I’m retired I think I’ll completely strip it down and rebuild it again, but for the time being as long as it remains reliable I’m just going to ride the wheels off it! ;D

Terry….. Forget “show quality”. Whenever I do that it really means “never ridden”. My favourite is my cb750K1 which is lovely, but gets used regularly. That’s the best finish! 

Yeah mate, the K1 is still my favourite model, I have two in pieces in my garage that will one day be restored. Having said that, I do love the red K0. ;D

K0 Sunday 10 November 2024 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #966 on: November 13, 2024, 10:47:03 PM »
 Here's the set of Yamiya's that I let get away. David Silver took them back to England.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #967 on: November 14, 2024, 07:09:55 AM »
Nice color!
Not common and look very familiar ;D
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Don, count me as not receiving my 300's yet after almost 16 months.
Here's Dario's latest:

"hello, we are working to ship everyone we are only working for delays it takes a moment more patience but we will get to everyone In thanking you, we offer cordial greetings" DARIO

Any influence you have with Busso would be welcomed.
UPDATE, It's been a month and a half since Dario's good news " It takes a moment more patience" but not surprisingly he has stopped communicating again and of course no pipes.
That really sucks that you still haven't received your pipes yet and that you are being ghosted by Dario. I hope he gets it together for you.
Mine are still in the boxes.....
I hope he does too but I'm not holding my breath. Today is exactly 1 1/2 years since I got my 341's with the promise the 300's will soon follow. I think all is lost.

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #969 on: November 16, 2024, 12:00:43 PM »
 He was told that I was withholding my photo essay until everyone mentioned on the CB750 Facebook page had their pipes. I would make it and post it if it got your order shipped.
  I did post an "unboxing day" set of photos that he may not have liked because I pointed out the wrinkles in two of the head pipes and other folks chimed in mentioning abnormalities.
  I was told that Yamiya began with the original Honda tooling, so they had that advantage. My late friend who was a tool and die maker told me that in Japan they keep all of the old tooling unlike the USA where it all gets scrapped.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2024, 12:06:38 PM by Don R »
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #970 on: November 16, 2024, 12:14:21 PM »
Don how do I find the facebook page you're referring to? I'm going to tell him I would settle for 341's if that helps me get what I paid for. I've asked for a refund several times but that went nowhere. At this point any help is appreciated.

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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #971 on: November 16, 2024, 12:52:31 PM »
 It's "Honda CB750 four". The last post on the Busso deal was Oct. 15 when Brendin Smith got his pipes finally. There are many more posts earlier. Dario may have stopped posting but I'd bet he still reads them. https://www.facebook.com/groups/55609931703

« Last Edit: November 16, 2024, 03:00:45 PM by Don R »
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Don, count me as not receiving my 300's yet after almost 16 months.
Here's Dario's latest:

"hello, we are working to ship everyone we are only working for delays it takes a moment more patience but we will get to everyone In thanking you, we offer cordial greetings" DARIO

Any influence you have with Busso would be welcomed.
UPDATE, It's been a month and a half since Dario's good news " It takes a moment more patience" but not surprisingly he has stopped communicating again and of course no pipes.
Another UPDATE: Here's what I sent to Dario:
On November 15th. it was 1 1/2 years that I've been waiting for my exhaust. If you can't supply the 300's I would settle for the 341's if that would allow you to send me my exhaust. You haven't answered my email below this one but maybe you'll answer and give me a date I can expect my exhaust or a monetary refund.
Dario's response translated:
Hello, they leave between this and next week at the latest In thanking you, we offer cordial greetings DARIO


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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #973 on: November 21, 2024, 02:57:30 PM »
 Good luck, he has been answering people's complaints. Hopefully your pipes will show up and will be top notch examples of Italian engineering. Fingers are crossed for you, I admit to not believing it when my wife said my pipes were here.
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Re: Stock 4-4 exhaust. No new no no's now.
« Reply #974 on: November 21, 2024, 07:57:22 PM »
Good luck, he has been answering people's complaints. Hopefully your pipes will show up and will be top notch examples of Italian engineering. Fingers are crossed for you, I admit to not believing it when my wife said my pipes were here.
I hope they show up too but I'm not looking for them.
If they do I'll post immediately.