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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2014, 04:59:24 PM »
Great thread, thank you kindly.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #101 on: March 07, 2014, 07:05:53 PM »

Rearset mockups.



Oil Cooler.

I installed the brake lines as they are intended on the gixxer frontend. I don't like how they look. We shall see. Form over function?
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #102 on: March 08, 2014, 03:33:51 AM »
Seth - just looked back at some of your recent pics showing the bike. Man, the stance and proportions looks great! I didn't re-read, but is the rear wheel also an 18"? Using 18s front and rear gives it a little "lunged" look that is really aggressive. Envious... Project is coming along great. You must be chomping at the bit for the weather to break up there.

Or are you planning to trailer it to decent weather to get to ride it??? How can you stand being that close to done, with that bike waiting, and the weather 2.5 months from rideable? I'd be homicidal.  :o
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #103 on: March 08, 2014, 07:00:22 AM »


Oil Cooler.

I installed the brake lines as they are intended on the gixxer frontend. I don't like how they look. We shall see. Form over function?

Seth,

Can you provide some information on the oil cooler.  I  don't think I've seen something like this before.  It looks like there's a temperature gauge on it.

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The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #104 on: March 08, 2014, 01:59:54 PM »
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18" front and rear. I'll be going to the lowest profile Roadrider (90/90-18), as the clearance on my headers is too close for my comfort. Stinks, because I really like the stance with the taller tire.

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The oil cooler is made by Pro One for the harley crowd. It's pretty trick, and was a breeze to install. Who knows how efficient it'll actually be.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #105 on: March 08, 2014, 02:05:37 PM »

Rearsets. Need some 6mm bolts to finish up the install.




Oil cooler and thermostat plumbed.


Galfer lines that aren't really doing it for me. May have to see if I can route them down the back side.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2014, 02:45:27 PM »
I think the lines will look fine, once you route them on the back side of the forks.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #107 on: March 08, 2014, 02:51:30 PM »
Let us know how the Pro One cooler works.  It looks trick.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2014, 06:26:49 AM »
Finished up my rearsets yesterday. I used the brackets that are now being produced by cognito moto. They are made of stainless steel and are really quite nice. If anyone is looking at purchasing these as a bolt on piece, realize that they are not, unless you like having your brake lever on the same plane as it was stock. It appears, that the bracket would need to be spaced out about 3/4" to clear the splined brake arm pivot.
I looked at many different ways to activate my rear brake. I tried flipping the rear brake arm and running a rod directly to my rearset, but I didn't like the "feel". In the end, I decided to cut down the splined brake arm pivot and the supplied linkage 3/4" with a chop saw, then re-welded the pinch bolt onto the linkage.

After putting in the work, I like the result. The rearsets are really tucked in close to the frame.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2014, 05:58:03 PM »
After putting in the work, I like the result. The rearsets are really tucked in close to the frame.

Prove it!  :)
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2014, 07:18:46 PM »
Finished up my rearsets yesterday. I used the brackets that are now being produced by cognito moto. . . .. . . . .
I looked at many different ways to activate my rear brake. I tried flipping the rear brake arm and running a rod directly to my rearset, but I didn't like the "feel". In the end, I decided to cut down the splined brake arm pivot and the supplied linkage 3/4" with a chop saw, then re-welded the pinch bolt onto the linkage.

After putting in the work, I like the result. The rearsets are really tucked in close to the frame.

I was talking with him about this as well. He suggest a bracket coming off the rear set, flipping the drum like you said, and attaching the rod to the bracket. He sells it on his site, but I am going to make my own.

But I do like what you got there. Really trick.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2014, 07:19:05 PM »

After putting in the work, I like the result. The rearsets are really tucked in close to the frame.

Prove it!  :)

A few more weeks!
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #112 on: March 12, 2014, 02:57:31 PM »


New rear plate bracket. Welded it to the chain adjuster, so it hugs the rear hub. Looks nice, and really pulls the bike in at the rear.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #113 on: March 12, 2014, 03:36:28 PM »
Seth,

That appears to be a Joker Machine Lucas-style LED tail light.  That should be nice and bright.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #114 on: March 12, 2014, 03:42:27 PM »
I ran it last year on the other side. It is super bright and I really like how it looks. I just didn't like the plate bracket and how it screwed with the lines of the bike.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #115 on: March 14, 2014, 09:01:21 AM »
I'm a little skeptical how well that nifty oil cooler is going to work 4 inches from the exhaust collector. When you're idling (and need it most) I'm afraid it's going to do double-duty as an oil roaster. Any better options for mounting it in the airstream above the front wheel, somewhat more conventionally?
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« Reply #116 on: March 14, 2014, 09:05:56 AM »
Nope. It's rather far away from the exhaust actually, right where the stock foot brake was.
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« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2014, 09:36:46 AM »
Seth - if in time that location doesn't prove to offer good cooling performance, (it looks fine to me) you have to options to assist. 1) ceramic coat your exhaust to shield the radiated heat, and 2) coat the cooler tank itself in a thermal dissipative coating to aide in drawing the absored heat of the oil out.

Again, if riding experience doesn't provide the results you desire. It's a great solution that you've developed.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #118 on: March 14, 2014, 09:46:14 AM »
Thanks. We shall see. The downside I see is from maybe not having the airflow that I might have behind the forks. Behind the forks is closer to the exhaust headers, than my cooler is to the collector.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #119 on: March 14, 2014, 11:28:08 AM »
The great thing about that cooler is that it has a built in temperature gauge.  I think Cal's contingency plans are great suggestions.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #120 on: March 14, 2014, 08:06:51 PM »
So, on a side note, I detected an almost (almost) negligible amount of play in the headstock. I have stripped the entire frontend and pressed the stem back out of the lower tree. I have ordered another stem from devin, as well as brand new bearings. I'm starting from scratch to rule out anything (as I may have chooched the stem on the last, or first pressing). Lower triple appears to be good. I guess it's only money :-/ In the meantime I'm taking various bits and pieces off to bead blast and powder tomorrow. I despise both jobs, but the powder is soooo much more resilient than paint.

 Also, my buddy had a 90/90-18 avon roadrider around that we tried out, before I tore everything back down.

 It's tiny. I ordered a 100/90-18, and will pray that it clears the header. The 90/90-18 clears by miles, the 110/90-18 does not clear, and I'm hoping the 100/90-18 clears with room to spare. Those whom have a 4-1 header, looking to run an 18" front wheel, and want a gixxer frontend swap...I guess I'm the guinea pig ;)
As long as I can get it all together by the time the good riding really rolls around. No worries :)
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #121 on: March 28, 2014, 05:29:28 AM »
So, I threw the frontend back together earlier this week and discovered the same clicking noise. Previously, I had assumed that it was a poor stem fitment/bearings in the headstock; it was not. After assembly, and presentation of the same click, I investigated further. What I found was this, the floating discs shift on their buttons when the brakes are applied :-/ I visited the gsxr forums and found that this is normal, as well as some noise from the cartridges. I'm out a chunk of change to rule out the noise, but it has been determined. I spent the time the frontend was apart polishing the forks even more, powdering a few pieces, swapping another tire, and rebuilding my starter clutch. Pictures to follow soon.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #122 on: March 28, 2014, 12:40:39 PM »

Frontend back together

Exposed innards

Headlight shot

Gauges

Super bright tail light

Exposed electrics

that's a cool little voltmeter
speed sensor on gixxer fork
oil cooler shot
  Shortened and painted exhaust

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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #123 on: March 28, 2014, 01:25:28 PM »
I'm back on the boat, so work is at a standstill on the bike. My buddy doing the paint will be sending updated photos of his work, I'll pass them along. Waiting on my oil tank. Gonna make the seats upon my return (I purchased some dual density stuff, and some memory foam...we shall see. Also, received my CycleX clutch kit; but it only contained the steels. They're shipping the fibers and a gasket.
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Re: The Quest for Brakes and Suspension: GSX-R Treats
« Reply #124 on: March 28, 2014, 06:54:19 PM »
So, I threw the frontend back together earlier this week and discovered the same clicking noise. Previously, I had assumed that it was a poor stem fitment/bearings in the headstock; it was not. After assembly, and presentation of the same click, I investigated further. What I found was this, the floating discs shift on their buttons when the brakes are applied :-/ I visited the gsxr forums and found that this is normal, as well as some noise from the cartridges. I'm out a chunk of change to rule out the noise, but it has been determined. I spent the time the frontend was apart polishing the forks even more, powdering a few pieces, swapping another tire, and rebuilding my starter clutch. Pictures to follow soon.

Thats a tough one. Been there, chased my tail about that hard. The bike looks fantastic, so many thoughtful details.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2014, 06:56:12 PM by NobleHops »
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