Topic: Bike Title Thread

[ElCheapo]

Anyone got a link to International Title???

[82CB650SC]

HERE YOU GO
http://www.its-titles.com/

[madbunny]

well kiddies,
here's how it works in ohio (many of you in the northeast will be appalled):

if it ain't a moped it needs a title.

1. check with your bmv/dmv to be sure there isn't an extent title in your state. the ohio bmv has a convienent free site you can search by vin to see if it's in  their system. this won't tell you who owns it, only that someone does when it was titled last, how many miles, etc.

the vin for my bike= cb7502350368

as you can see, as of monday i will have owned my poor anabelle for 10 years.
if your state shows an outstanding title you're screwed. be prepared to face the possibilty you've acquired a legal liability.

2. if your state shows no title you can contact a title service. i used international title service once and had no problems.

3. send the bill of sale along with current address and a check for their fee. (you basically sell them the vehicle and they sell it back to you) in about a week or so they send a bill of sale from a state where they are a licensed dealer.

4. you take this bill of sale to your bmv/dmv for it's out of state inspection. the fuzz looks it over for any tampering with the vin/engine numbers.
if you get a clean bill of health then you get the inspection pass/release and then you're off to go fight with the title department.

5. you show up with your slip from the inspection, your out-of-state bill of sale and gleefully hand it over to the clerk who proceeds to get snarky with you and treat you like a criminal. if all goes well and they manage to find the references in the books as to how to create a title from a bill of sale in maine you get your title and bid a fond farewell to the title depatment.

total cost in the neighborhood of $300 (between title fees and inspection) you milage may vary depending on the age of your bike.

When was the last time you used the Internation Title Service for an Ohio titel???

I think they changed this a couple years ago...cannot do it anymore??

Another title service I was gonna use....Broadway Title Service has this posted on their website:

"Please be aware that some states have made changes in their motor vehicle registration laws and they have effected our services.

We can only title vehicles that were manufactured in model year 1974 or earlier at this time. 
Due to changes in their title laws, we are unable to due titles in the following states. Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Washington under ANY circumstances. Please note, Laws change on a constant basis. So please check with us on any of the states listed. Please call for additional information."

I was in a Ohio BMV title office about 2 months ago(transferring a title on a bike I purchased) and remember seeing a big sign behind the counter....that said something about......"we dont not accept titles issued thru out of state title services".

Just wondering,
Greg

g-money

last vehicle i had done was my jeep cherokee about two and a half years ago.

the reference to the 1974 if most likely for four wheeled vehicles as many states have no title requirements for two wheelers more the 15 years old and some have none at all.

the maine documentation is a registration not what ohio refers to as a "title", which in ohio legalese is a notarized document produced by your county's clerk of courts saying you showed them some other notarized document saying who the old owner was and that they transferred the vehicle to you.
hence their pissy attitude when you show up with the out-of-state documentation with a poor paperwork chain.

on a side note:
i do my website links

(url=http://www.like-this.com] name of website [/url)
 
so if you see underlining on my post 90% of the time it's a link.

it's just a lot cleaner looking than posting the whole fricking url and you can make funny connotations about the link.

the internet. _yeah.

[Jeb]

I went by the tag office today to transfer the old Honda - the bike has no title but before I bought it the DMV told me that becuase of the bikes age all I needed was a bill of sale.  By the way the first time I went was a Friday but they were closed for a holiday that fell on a Saturday.  So anyway I brought all my paper work.  I went up to the window and gave the girl my bill of sale.  She asked if I had anything else so I gave her the copy of the bill of sale from the shop the guy I bought it from - bought it from.  She asked if I had anything else so I gave her an old title from many (13) years ago thinking that might help identify the bike.  She leaves and comes back several minutes later saying the title does not follow the names on the bill of sales.  I said the bike had changed hands several times since then plus I was told I didn't need a title - she said that was true and that all I need is a bill of sale.  I said okay give me back the old title which she did.  I did a 360 spin and gave her the bill of sale again.  She said but the bill of sale did not follow the title.  I said I am not giving you the title just the bill of sale.  She you can't do that.  I said you just told me all I need is a bill of sale.  She said but the bill of sale does not follow the title.  I said then if I come back tomorrow w/ just the bill of sale I can transfer the bike.  She said I am not telling you to do that.  I said I'll see you tomorrow. 

[Roach Carver]

 

[Sam Green Racing]

 

That was well worth reading

Sam.  

[Dusthawk]

Don't you just love ''The System''?

[medic09]

We have a private company here called MVD Express.  Supposed to be able to do all your vehicle paperword faster, more efficiently, for a higher fee.  I used them for two other bikes.  I went in there with the title signed over from PO for my wife's bike.  The clerk tells me we filled in both the private seller's section, and the dealer's section, so he can't transfer title.  Why not?  We need just the info on the private seller's side.  Okay, so it's there; just ignore the superfluous but harmless info on the other side.  It's all the same anyway.  I can't do that.  You have to get the seller to sign a notarized affidavit that you filled in too much info!  PO is a stranger, in another city.  Suppose I can't get him to come with me and spend his precious time at the notary?  No suggestions.

Soooooo, I ask to see the manager.  I wait nearly an hour, while the manager is in plain sight doing stuff and nonsense.  We go round the round again.  Why don't you just ignore the superfluous info?  We can't do that.  And this time, the manager fills out an officious form stating that he notified me that I have to get the notarized paperwork to correct the mistake, or no title transfer.

Well, I decide to go to the DMV and take my chances there.  I wait over two hours.  When my turn comes, I present my paperwork to the clerk.  Clerk says they can just ignore the back of the old title, and proceeds to process my stuff.  Supervisor comes over, looks it all over, and walks away.  It takes them fully a half hour to do some simple paperwork, but when it's done we have title in our names.

This is the one time I can recall when the official bureaucrats actually did better!  All told, I spent over 4 1/2 hours just to transfer a titile.  I told my wife she owes me for as long as she owns that bike!

[Rsnip988]

the orig owner of my bike sold it to a guy, who sold it and so on and so on, but the orig title from 76 had been passed around, he had signed it over and never notarized it, no one else had even written on the title so I signed my name in the "buyer" slot

my dmv TOLD me that since my title had "broken the chain of sale" and the only way to get it titled in my name is to have a notary forge that they saw the orig owner sign it, so thats just what I did, thank goodness for family members w'notary lisences

[Raul CB750K1]

the orig owner of my bike sold it to a guy, who sold it and so on and so on, but the orig title from 76 had been passed around, he had signed it over and never notarized it, no one else had even written on the title so I signed my name in the "buyer" slot

my dmv TOLD me that since my title had "broken the chain of sale" and the only way to get it titled in my name is to have a notary forge that they saw the orig owner sign it, so thats just what I did, thank goodness for family members w'notary lisences

So it means you know a notary that lied? Then how can we trust what they say?


Well, this has nothing to do with bikes but reflects the corporate nonsense. When I bought my appartment I was the subscriber of the telephone line in my rented appartment. A new line costed about 250 bucks, but back then there was a special offer with wich subscribers of a line could sign up for another one at half price. So I called the telephone company, told them I wanted a second line, gave all may personal data, new address etc. Then I asked: "so, what do I have to do to surrender my actual telephone line? I want to surrender it to the owner of my rented appartment" The woman at the other end tell me that if so she couldn't give a second line at half price? "Why not"? "Because you are going to surrender your first line". "So what?". "Am I the subscriber now?" "Yes" "Can't I get a second line at half price based on your offer?" "Not if you are going to surrender the first line" "Where does it say so?" "Nowhere, it simply can't be done". I said "OK, so how long must I keep the first line before I surrender it? Am I forced to keep it forever or what?" No reply. So I got tired of trying to convince her to use the logic and told her: "OK, this is what we are going to do. I am going to hang up, dial customer attention again. Another representative will pick up the phone, I will ask for my second line and I will get it. How does it sound to you?" Can't remember what she told me, but it's what I did and I got my second line. As soon as I got my new telephone working I surrendered the line.


Raul

[Rsnip988]

That my friend is how it's done,

So it means you know a notary that lied? Then how can we trust what they say?

Raul

not technically, she's in her late 60's and i just asked her to stamp it for me as the seller, she's a trusting great aunt so i guess she didnt read too closely

[dusterdude]

jeb,you ever get straight

[Jeb]

I am taking Friday afternoon off and going downtown to a different tag office.  This time w/o the old title.  It's suppose to be in the low 60's so I'll ride the bike.  That way I can park on the sidewalk and cheat the city out of parking meter money.

[Jeb]

I made it down to different tag office w/ just the bill of sale.  This time they gave me a temporary tag (car size).  They will then send a letter to the last person they have down owning the bike to see if the bike is stolen.  If not or if the person does not replay I can go back again (trip #3) on Feb 1 and pick up my real tag. 

[needswork]

I went by the tag office today to transfer the old Honda - the bike has no title but before I bought it the DMV told me that becuase of the bikes age all I needed was a bill of sale.  By the way the first time I went was a Friday but they were closed for a holiday that fell on a Saturday.  So anyway I brought all my paper work.  I went up to the window and gave the girl my bill of sale.  She asked if I had anything else so I gave her the copy of the bill of sale from the shop the guy I bought it from - bought it from.  She asked if I had anything else so I gave her an old title from many (13) years ago thinking that might help identify the bike.  She leaves and comes back several minutes later saying the title does not follow the names on the bill of sales.  I said the bike had changed hands several times since then plus I was told I didn't need a title - she said that was true and that all I need is a bill of sale.  I said okay give me back the old title which she did.  I did a 360 spin and gave her the bill of sale again.  She said but the bill of sale did not follow the title.  I said I am not giving you the title just the bill of sale.  She you can't do that.  I said you just told me all I need is a bill of sale.  She said but the bill of sale does not follow the title.  I said then if I come back tomorrow w/ just the bill of sale I can transfer the bike.  She said I am not telling you to do that.  I said I'll see you tomorrow. 

Geez, I work for government but like any industry, asking some people to use their brain is liking asking them to sh*t gold bricks. 

[gregwaits]

My wife says I should go down to the tax office and see what happens, but I figure I would run this by the readers here to see if anyone else has encountered a situation like this.

I bought a bike from a local guy knowing the title had issues, and I am ready to accept that this bike is essentially "non-titled" because of it. The previous buyer had signed on the wrong line and realizing what he had done, he used white out to try and correct it. I was told that the title is essentially worthless now. Is that necessarily true?

Not that it matters a great deal, but the original title is out of Iowa. Now if I only had connections in the title office I suppose this could be pushed through.

[HITMAN]

I guess speaking from Oregon, I had a title issue the same only they rubbed the snot out of it with an eraser.  I went through the SOP's and wah-lah no problem at all, dunno if the guy processing it was slack or not.  I really wouldn't worry about it and take it in like nothings wrong, if they ask, tell them (or BS).  At a later time talking candidly to one of them, they said as long as it's not stolen or has leins they are not really concerned as titles get shuffled, coffee treatment and other unique experiences.

[Uncle Ernie]

Here in North Carolina, they will hang you up by your thumbs and pay small old women to slap you until just barely concious. Then they ask why you had the temerity to bring them a worthless POS to process.
They WILL send a copy of the title to the last registered owner if that person sends a request on the proper form.  A second chance.

[Rocking-M]

Yes, I remember DMV hell in NC from my growing up days. They also hired the little old ladies
who slap you silly on a full time basis. They call them DMV greeters.

You may be better off to see if you can contact the prior owner who messed it up.
Have him file for a lost title in his state and mail it to you signed in the right places.

[ElCheapo]

http://www.anubiscycle.com/lost-title-wisconsin.htm

Hope this helps our other WI users.

[736cc]

BTW, Wisconon titles motorcycles based on ENGINE number, not frame number as all the other states do. All harleys are titled by engine number in all states, too.

[jsaab2748]

.....Or do a google search for International Title Service. See if this route is legal in your state. I've heard that in most cases it works.
 Good luck.

[GroovieGhoulie]

I'm in Texas as well and am needing a title for a bike.  Please let me know how it goes, like if the DMV is a total nightmare and I should use a titling service, or if the DMV isn't so bad.

[gregwaits]

.....Or do a google search for International Title Service. See if this route is legal in your state. I've heard that in most cases it works.
 Good luck.

I just checked out their website. It looks to be very reasonably priced. If this title issue doesn't work itself out, I may give them a call.

Thanks

[Stevien1]

It varies state to state, but here in MI they would want the last legally titled person to apply for a lost title (from whatever state it was titled in), then sign it over to you once it comes in.  I had this problem when I bought my bike- but the last legally titled person that owned my bike died over 10 yrs ago!  It was a lot of BS, but I finally got it titled in my name after month or so.

If you can find the person that it was last titled to before the DMV does, chances are you'll have an easier time getting things transferred.  If your really lucky, they'll go with you to the DMV and verify your story to the clerk.  Don't let the old ladies slap you around, talk to the branch manager (calmly) and go from there.