Topic: 'nother sandcast on Ebay ending tonight! OOPS BACK Again!

[Don R]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271310585720?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

More fun to watch when you have one.

[dhall57]

Nice Don But that's all I can do is to have fun watching. Don't have 15K in the bank account right now and I'm sure it will climb up quite a bit more before it's done, don't you.

[Don R]

I'm sure. Mine came from an auction and trust me, I didn't have 15K either. They are still around, just rare. I was so excited I could barely sign the papers.

Really, the only reason they're worth anything is because people like us think they are.

[dhall57]

I think I would of forgot how to write my name at that moment Your just a lucky fellow!!!

[Greggo]

Nice to see a bike that still needs plenty of restoration work bid up that high

[Sgt.Pinback]

Does it need restoration work?

[Greggo]

Does it need restoration work?

To be perfect, yes!  It's not completely original, so I wouldn't call it a 'survivor.'  It appears the frame needs fresh paint to stave off any further rusting/deterioration...that means total disassembly.  Things like fork seals, brakes, cables, rubber bits may need replacing...It all depends on what a buyer wants to do with it.

[MCRider]

Does it need restoration work?

To be perfect, yes!  It's not completely original, so I wouldn't call it a 'survivor.'  It appears the frame needs fresh paint to stave off any further rusting/deterioration...that means total disassembly.  Things like fork seals, brakes, cables, rubber bits may need replacing...It all depends on what a buyer wants to do with it.

Yeah, it seems to me if it were COMPLETELY original you'd not touch it and leave the patina.

But since its had so much done to it, you'd have to finish it up, as the seller says. Time for someone else to take over the restoration.

The difference between original and restored.

But I'm just guessing.

[Sgt.Pinback]

OK, I see your point.

But what is not original on this bike?

[MCRider]

OK, I see your point.

But what is not original on this bike?

My understanding of "original" is the exact same part that came on that bike from the factory. This one has different pipes, front fender, paint, side covers, seat cover, maybe more. Excellent reproductions perhaps, but not original. So its fate is to be further restored with the best of parts.

There is an original Sandcast in Dreyers Honda service shop in Indianapolis IN. Every part is the exact same part that came with that bike in the crate. No repros or swaps.

[markb]

There is an original Sandcast in Dreyers Honda service shop in Indianapolis IN. Every part is the exact same part that came with that bike in the crate. No repros or swaps.

That would be worth more than any restoration.

[MCRider]

There is an original Sandcast in Dreyers Honda service shop in Indianapolis IN. Every part is the exact same part that came with that bike in the crate. No repros or swaps.

That would be worth more than any restoration.

Yeah I can only wonder. Assembled and bought (or held back) by owner "Pops" Dreyer, RIP. I assume his son "Junior" who's got to be 75 years old is the owner now. I'm not sure if its ever seen the light of day.

http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.aspx?RacerID=63

[Sgt.Pinback]

OK, I see your point.

But what is not original on this bike?

My understanding of "original" is the exact same part that came on that bike from the factory. This one has different pipes, front fender, paint, side covers, seat cover, maybe more. Excellent reproductions perhaps, but not original. So its fate is to be further restored with the best of parts.

There is an original Sandcast in Dreyers Honda service shop in Indianapolis IN. Every part is the exact same part that came with that bike in the crate. No repros or swaps.

Oh.

How do you identify repro side covers?

[MCRider]

OK, I see your point.

But what is not original on this bike?

My understanding of "original" is the exact same part that came on that bike from the factory. This one has different pipes, front fender, paint, side covers, seat cover, maybe more. Excellent reproductions perhaps, but not original. So its fate is to be further restored with the best of parts.

There is an original Sandcast in Dreyers Honda service shop in Indianapolis IN. Every part is the exact same part that came with that bike in the crate. No repros or swaps.

Oh.

How do you identify repro side covers?

The seller disclosed in the ad that he bought replacement sidecovers from Yamiya. They are top quality, but repros none the less.

[Sgt.Pinback]

Sorry, did´nt read to the end. Thanks!

[MCRider]

Sorry, did´nt read to the end. Thanks!

No prob. 

[Sgt.Pinback]

Do those repro covers look "smoother" than the genuine covers? Any visuable differences?

Here is mine

[MCRider]

Do those repro covers look "smoother" than the genuine covers? Any visuable differences?

Here is mine

I haven't seen one firsthand, so I don't know.

I saw your intro thread. Welcome and thanks for the story. I didn't notice in that thread, but I see it here. The emblem is on the sidecover backwards. The leading edge of the wing should point forwards.

[Bailgang]

Really, the only reason they're worth anything is because people like us think they are.

That's how it is for anything collectible.

[Don R]

Why would someone bid  a price like $14,499? did they not want to beat a $14,500 bid? I'd go $14,501 if I wanted to win the bid.


Who called this fishy? Oh, me.  I wish it was being bid up like crazy, I have one now.

[Sgt.Pinback]

perhaps the pusher.

[Gordon]

Why would someone bid  a price like $14,499? did they not want to beat a $14,500 bid? I'd go $14,501 if I wanted to win the bid.

That's not how bidding on ebay works.  The current showing bid will never be more than one increment above the next highest bid.  The current high bid could be anywhere from $14,999 up to the maximum bid allowed by ebay's servers.

[Don R]

Hmm, the last few bids shown are $13K, $13.5, $14,000  and now $14,499. I just wondered.
 The next increment shown is $100 higher.

[Don R]

10 hours left, any predictions? Sniping at the end or is it done?

[Greggo]

10 hours left, any predictions? Sniping at the end or is it done?

My guess is it's done.

[Don R]

That's my thought too. Maybe a sneaky guy will try a small snipe at the end.
 I see we have some different definitions of original and survivor. Time for a new post or poll.

[Don R]

No snipe, it ended quietly.

[Don R]

iT'S baaaack!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=271315943810

[Don R]

Any thoughts on this?

[Greggo]

Likely sold near, or at that last price...seems appropriate.

[Don R]

Ended by the seller. No longer available.