Author Topic: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!  (Read 13121 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

fendersrule

  • Guest
1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« on: November 04, 2013, 07:07:52 PM »
My father is coming up for a nice Thanksgiving visit. Aside from the fact that I have 4 Honda twins for us to work on that need MUCH greater attention, I would like to maybe add the possibility of rebuilding the carbs while he's here, or having him take them home with him since he's more seasoned with carb rebuilds and could spend quality time on them.

The '78 this winter is getting new throttle and choke cables. It's getting new points/condensers. I thought it's time to also deep clean the carbs. It's getting a little harder to start (especially when cold and sitting for a couple days). It's not as peppy as it was. The bike has 15,000 miles on it. I run a fuel filter (went through a couple after flushing my tank). I converted back to the stock air box with a K&N oiled filter semi-recently and it runs better than it did with the pods!

He's had some experience with Keyster kits. You basically have to pick at them to get some good stuff while other stuff is wrong, missing, or doesn't fit.  I hear K&L kits are better. Not sure where to find "Honda" kits.

Not sure how I should go about doing this without over spending. Maybe it just needs a thorough cleaning + new gaskets. I've only checked one carb, either #1 or #4, but the jets were the stock size. There was pod filters on the bike before, and it ran "OK" for having pod filters and stock jets (even went on a short trip with it).

Thanks all!

Other things:

1) I will need to re-run a compression check now that I have a good gauge. I suppose that if it's under a certain number, then it's not really worth focusing money and effort spending a lot on tune-ups. The initial compression check was not impressive, but we were using a crappy gauge, cold engine, and probably was doing something else wrong.

2) Valves are dead-on perfect when I checked them. I adjusted the points a couple thousand miles ago, and I thought that they looked "good" from my limited mechanical knowledge.

3) Carbs have been synced. There are no "dead spots" and the power band is consistent. I think it may just be lacking that quick oompf that I believe that these should have.

4) Bike doesn't backfire, pop, leak, or have any problems. When I adjusted the points, I also timed it with a timing light.

« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 07:21:15 PM by fendersrule »

Offline martin99

  • UK Based, Non-
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,733
  • Adventure before Dementia
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2013, 01:13:31 AM »
Surprising it ran 'ok' with pods and stock jetting. I suppose it depends on your definition of 'ok'. You might find the needles have been shimmed once you get into the carbs. Worth checking as if they have and now you are back to stock filter it may be a little rich?

We don't have Thanksgiving over here. Hope you get to spend as much quality time with your Dad as he does with the carbs. Good luck!
Build threads:
77 750F2 Refresh Project http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=144075.0
TRIBSA http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,160296.0.html

1977 CB750 F2
1958 Norton Model 99
2011 Triumph Street Triple 675

Offline lucky

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,717
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2013, 04:42:13 AM »
To find out if the points are worn beyond limits you will need a dwell meter.
The points gap must be correct and the dwell must be in limits at the same time.

If you cannot get the points gap right and the dwell with in limits it means the points
block that rubs on the cam is worn.

Offline flybox1

  • My wife thinks I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,301
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2013, 07:42:07 AM »
Never hurts to look for needle clip position or shim changes, but if the PO didnt rejet, i doubt they took the time to change needle position.  :P  without jetting for pods, your K8 would have run leaner than it already was from the factory.  my K8 is waaay more happy with stock intake and bigger jets.(see my sig)

good tip by lucky on the dwell meter.  Are your 'new' points and condensers TEC or DAIICHI?  Use only TEC(honda) brand. 

No need for any carb kits on this one.   Major bike tuneup items, first.  Valves, timing, cam chain, oil change....
Some preventative purchases...three things, if you havent purchased/installed already. new bowl gaskets, rubber-tipped Float valves, accel pump diaphragm.  these combined will cost you less than "kits" and will be good for many years.
The rest of the carbs brass parts you can clean and reuse.
ensure your accel pump circuit is clean, the check-valves are clear, and the carb throat squirters are squirting.  Check for accel pump squirting BEFORE you put your carbs back on the bike.  The accel pump connections, between the bowls, should be hard and have brass tubes internally.  Take them off if you can and spray cleaner through them and into the nipples they connect to.  the circuit needs to be clean and squirt fuel out the carb throat squirters in each carb.  Bench sync
new D8EA or denso X24esu plugs.  check the resistance in your plug caps, too.  replace if bad.  youll need a good spark.
Tuning your fast idle cam will improve your cold starts.  Get the cam to hold start idle at 2500-3000rpm with your choke nob pulled all the way out.
Once warm, vacuum sync.
'78 750K (F3 engine) PD42b's, Modified airbox w/K&N  filter, 40/110 jets, 1 needle shim, IMS@ 1 turn out. Kerker + Cone 18" QuietCore

Past Bikes
1974 550K0 (stock), 1973 CB350F (stock), 1983 Yamaha XS400K (POS)
77/78 cool 2 member #3
"Knowledge without mileage equals bullsh!t" - Henry Rollins

"This is my CB. There are many like it, but this one is mine…"

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2013, 08:37:22 AM »
I've ordered these for the CB750:
http://www.siriusconinc.com/pro-detail.php?pid=&product_id=1474

Looks like I need to order the TECs. I can't find TEC brand kits anywhere. Anyone have a source? Is it true that Diiachi condensors are ok, and maybe I just need good points?

I haven't touched my cam chain...it's not making any noise so I assume it's fine. Will need to check resistance on plug caps. I will pick up a dwell meter.

Lots of good information here in this thread. Let me know where to grab a TEC kit, and I'll keep posting information as I find it. I'll see if I can run a compression test today.

Sounds like the carbs do need to be pulled to know for SURE if theres been something done because some think it's impossible to run "good" with pods and no changes. It certainly didn't run bad. The only things I've noticed is that too much wind gets shoved down in the engine so you would have an inconstant power band on windy days or at fast speeds. Once the stock airbox went on, everything got consistent regardless of the wind or speed, and I noticed a little bit more low end pep.

Flybox, what is the sequence of tune-up /measuring? Valves -> Timing -> Cam Chain -> Oil Change - Carbs? Thanks for listing out the most important things to replace on the carbs.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2013, 09:04:28 AM by fendersrule »

Offline flybox1

  • My wife thinks I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,301
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2013, 09:17:20 AM »
check your points as they might still be usable.  they will have TEC stamped on them. 
if you are unsure, a closeup photo of the points contacts will let us know if you can file them and reuse.
TEC's are tough to find but they are out there.  spendy, too.
I find it cheaper to buy used OEM points plates off ebay and reuse the TEC components.

got a copy of the shop manual?  all the steps/sequence are there in the periodic maintenance section. 

your inconsistent throttle response at speed/wind is most likely a combination of dirty carbs and an off air/fuel mixture.
get them cleaned properly, and adjusted/jetted a little richer, and i'm sure it will perform better.
35pilots/110mains is stock jetting for the K8. make note of what you have in there now, and what model PD carbs you have.
PD41a or 41b will be stamped on one end.

'78 750K (F3 engine) PD42b's, Modified airbox w/K&N  filter, 40/110 jets, 1 needle shim, IMS@ 1 turn out. Kerker + Cone 18" QuietCore

Past Bikes
1974 550K0 (stock), 1973 CB350F (stock), 1983 Yamaha XS400K (POS)
77/78 cool 2 member #3
"Knowledge without mileage equals bullsh!t" - Henry Rollins

"This is my CB. There are many like it, but this one is mine…"

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 09:31:29 AM »
Thanks for letting me know about the manual. I opened it up, and the sequence is plain and simple. First starting with compression test. Normal PSI is 150-170 PSI. I think I'll make that. We'll see.

The ailments I was talking about was only with the pods. There is no inconsistency with the stock air-box. It just would be nice to get more low end pep, so I assume that either a) ignition needs to be tuned with a dwell and points inspected (i'll take a picture when I get to that sequence) or b) carbs need to be gone through. According to Honda's sequence, carbs are last. Makes sense.

I'm going to try to get some compression numbers today. Warm the engine up for 5-10 minutes, remove the plugs, insert the compression tool in one of the openings, make sure the choke knob is all the way down (not pulled up), crank the throttle open, and crank it. I like to have a battery charger hooked up while I'm doing compression readings.

If I'm getting 130PSI, then that probably means that I should just drive it as-is until it fails and not go through the hassle of rebuilding quite yet since it runs good, doesn't leak, and gets the job done (and looks mighty good!). My plan was to pull the engine out this winter, but that's been delayed till next winter due to other products. Though, I think it's kind of ridiculous to pull a SOHC 4 at 15,000 miles.

Anyhow, compression readings are coming shortly. I'm really confident in my new gauge.

Offline flybox1

  • My wife thinks I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,301
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2013, 10:27:47 AM »
Your gauge is different than the one HONDA used to write their manual.  Knowing that,  similar compression numbers across the board is a good sign.  Dont freak out if they are in a different 'range' than the published numbers. 
15K? its just getting broken in  ;D
if it doesnt leak at the head/valve cover, and doesnt burn or blow smoke, keep it in tune and ride it hard till it does   8)
once you pull the engine, you've opened a can-o-worms.... ;D

low end pep...you should get it with a hard roll-on when the accel pump in tune (assuming all else is in order, too  ;D )
'78 750K (F3 engine) PD42b's, Modified airbox w/K&N  filter, 40/110 jets, 1 needle shim, IMS@ 1 turn out. Kerker + Cone 18" QuietCore

Past Bikes
1974 550K0 (stock), 1973 CB350F (stock), 1983 Yamaha XS400K (POS)
77/78 cool 2 member #3
"Knowledge without mileage equals bullsh!t" - Henry Rollins

"This is my CB. There are many like it, but this one is mine…"

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 09:06:46 PM »
Alrighty! As promised, I'm reporting back with compression numbers and a new burn on my wrist! Method:

* Fire up engine (cold start). Let run for 10 minutes.
* Remove all spark plugs
* Wrench in the base of the compression socket
* Screw in the hose (hand tight)
* Open WOT. Don't touch the choke knob.
* Hit the starter and record highest number

First, a condition of the spark plugs:



My father is bringing up an exhaust analyzer which should richen up cylinders 1 and 2.

Second, the results:



To the left was taken about a year prior using a older gauge. Either the compression has improved or the methods/gauge is better. I do know that this gauge will read small engines better than the gauges we were using (typically about 6-8 PSI better). Likely, both is the answer!

Next steps? Get a dwell meter and test points? I have a timing light gun. Do I need anything else?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 09:09:41 PM by fendersrule »

Offline Vinhead1957

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,196
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 05:21:14 AM »
Number one looks like the valve seal may be letting in some oil.  Two a little rich.  Three and four normal

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 06:33:35 PM »
Thanks Vinhead. We've only synced the carbs so far...we haven't done any air//fuel mixture adjustments. My dad has an exhaust analyzer, so I'm sure we can clear up everything that way.

Which brings me to the point: when is it determined that the carbs should come off for a rebuild? The bike isn't sputtering, missing, "bogging", etc. It's just not "snappy." Maybe I just need to move on to the ignition with a dwell meter.

Notice that my plugs are NGK D8ES-L plugs. I think these are what Honda calls for.

Offline zeech

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 229
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2013, 11:51:28 PM »
Make sure your ignition and all other electronics (points, coils, regulator/rectifier, battery etc) are good as they cab affect things as well. I'm in the midst of a full rebuild on a 1978 as well. Just about to the reassemble phase, and scared haha.

Wobbly

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2013, 12:07:08 AM »
The carbs need to be cleaned at this time-and I don't mean wiping them down but ultrasonic cleaning. Spark plugs are correct: NGK D8ES-L or DR8ES-L. Rather than buying new points and condensers, I would have bought an electronic ignition. It doesn't interfere with the original looks and represents a vast improvement. Oh well.
Check connecting tubes (carbs-filter) and insulators (carbs-cylinder head). Is the rubber still soft?

Quote
He's had some experience with Keyster kits. You basically have to pick at them to get some good stuff while other stuff is wrong, missing, or doesn't fit.  I hear K&L kits are better. Not sure where to find "Honda" kits.

I have come to understand that it isn't fashionable in this forum, but I buy mine from Honda--as outlandish as it might seem. Incidentally, it's the same place I would buy my fuel lines from.   ;)
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 04:23:31 AM by Wobbly »

Offline flybox1

  • My wife thinks I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,301
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2013, 07:23:13 AM »
Which brings me to the point: when is it determined that the carbs should come off for a rebuild? The bike isn't sputtering, missing, "bogging", etc. It's just not "snappy." Maybe I just need to move on to the ignition with a dwell meter.
verify your accel pump circuit is working properly and squirting fuel into each carb throat.
'78 750K (F3 engine) PD42b's, Modified airbox w/K&N  filter, 40/110 jets, 1 needle shim, IMS@ 1 turn out. Kerker + Cone 18" QuietCore

Past Bikes
1974 550K0 (stock), 1973 CB350F (stock), 1983 Yamaha XS400K (POS)
77/78 cool 2 member #3
"Knowledge without mileage equals bullsh!t" - Henry Rollins

"This is my CB. There are many like it, but this one is mine…"

Offline BobbyR

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,367
  • Proud Owner of the Babe Thread & Dirty Old Man
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2013, 07:47:42 AM »
Thanks Vinhead. We've only synced the carbs so far...we haven't done any air//fuel mixture adjustments. My dad has an exhaust analyzer, so I'm sure we can clear up everything that way.

Which brings me to the point: when is it determined that the carbs should come off for a rebuild? The bike isn't sputtering, missing, "bogging", etc. It's just not "snappy." Maybe I just need to move on to the ignition with a dwell meter.

Notice that my plugs are NGK D8ES-L plugs. I think these are what Honda calls for.
I Have a 78k I also and yours is pristine. We do not have needle clips, and shimming would be if you were doing something unusual.
You recieved some good info and the accel pump comment is extremely important. The pump holds so little fuel it goes to varnish very quickly. Please pay attention to that.

The emulsion tubes are advertised as pressed in. They can be wiggled out with a plier, being gentle or course so you don't oval them. High E guitar string passed through the holes will loosen some white deposits you will probably find there. This stuff was from the MBTE they had in fuel, it does not dissolve.

The 78 carbs have a true mixture screw, not an air screw used in earlier models. So they will act differently. The factory specs 1 1/2 are probably no longer valid. Tune it for smooth.

I am jetted at 120 mains with stock airbox and it may help with the mid range. I ditched the points and went with a Dyna that crapped out after 2-3 years. Went to PAMCO and I am not sure if I am getting mad power, but she starts quick. Points are fine, I just got tired of them.
 
The thing about these carbs is that there are no shortcuts. If you take your time and use a strand of copper wire to really go through every passage you can get a good result. I tried shortcuts and had to pull them 4 times which sucks. Do it once properly and your life will be easier.
     
Dedicated to Sgt. Howard Bruckner 1950 - 1969. KIA LONG KHANH.

But we were boys, and boys will be boys, and so they will. To us, everything was dangerous, but what of that? Had we not been made to live forever?

Offline lucky

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,717
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2013, 11:45:06 AM »
You can get a combo dwell/tachometer at Sears for about $30.
They have sold them for at least 40 years!

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2013, 12:44:08 PM »
Got myself a dwell meter. Still not sure how it works entirely.

Anyhow, I'm going to take a look at the points. I'll take a picture of them. How do I test them with a dwell meter?

How do I inspect "point cam lubrication"?




Offline dave500

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,022
  • WHAT?no gravy?
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2013, 12:58:29 PM »
make sure the advancer isnt sticking,when you time the engine forget about the "F" mark,increase the rpm and with your strobe watch as the advance comes up till it stops advancing,set the timing at this point between the two full advance marks or more toward the right hand one,where the f mark ends up at idle dont worry about it,these are always running around 3000 = rpm anyway and mostly at full advance all the time,often setting at the f results in incomplete advance.

Wobbly

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2013, 05:06:07 PM »



fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2013, 06:51:29 PM »
Thanks Dave and Wobbly.

Today I actually spent 5 hours working on "Brownie" (CB450). I finally learned how to tune a CB450's ignition system. I replaced the points and the coil. I used my new meter from Sears. I didn't use it for dwelling, but I used it for voltage instead (it acted as a "light") so I could do static timing.

Thanks to Bill Lane for providing his guide!

In the next week, I will move on to doing the Ignition on the CB750 using your guys' info. I think it's a bit less involved than the CB450.

The only thing I've done on the CB750 is set the points about 1000 miles ago. I think my dad brought up a timing light and timed it, but it will be nice to go back through using a Honda manual to make sure it's set good.

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2013, 07:20:32 AM »
So guys: how exactly do I use a dwell meter in replacement of feeler gauges?

Wobbly, the timing procedure looks dead simple. I don't have a timing light yet, so I will only be able to do the static timing.

Offline lucky

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,717
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2013, 09:38:38 AM »
Got myself a dwell meter. Still not sure how it works entirely.

Anyhow, I'm going to take a look at the points. I'll take a picture of them. How do I test them with a dwell meter?

How do I inspect "point cam lubrication"?

Just connect the red lead of the Dwell meter to each points set and the black wire to ground. (engine case).

Clean the points cam with acetone very well.
Then put  a light coating of disc brake high temp grease on it.

You can tell if the points cam has burned on grease on it because the dwell meter needle will be bouncing all around. AFTER the points cam is CLEAN you will see the dwell meter needle is nice and steady.


fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2013, 09:45:13 AM »
Gotcha. I did not clean the point cam on the CB450 when I replaced the points and timed it, so maybe this would be a good idea to do. Good to know high temp brake grease is used after it's cleaned. Would mineral spirits, lacquer thinner, or gasoline work instead of acetone?

So you basically treat the dwell meter like a 12V light (the same way you hook it up). I'm just not sure what the "numbers" should be for what I'm looking for. The meter I have has a VOLTS, RPM, and DWELL switch.

My father is coming up and he knows how to use the dwell, but he asks for what spec, or number that we should be seeing. As I understand, a dwell meter replaces feeler gauges, so there has to be a spec, right?

Black 750K8

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2013, 10:34:00 AM »
Here are a few things I dug up. Is your meter like this?
http://www.sears.com/search=dwell%20meter?catalogId=12605&storeId=10153&levels=Tools&autoRedirect=true&viewItems=50&redirectType=CAT_REC_PRED

I knew you guys were correct, but I couldn't figure out why... Then it hit me. 
A typical V-8 car's distributor sends a total of 8 sparks per distributor revolution (it turns at cam speed or 1/2 engine speed). The points cam lobe pitch would be 45 degrees (360/8=45).  So what the dwell meter is actually measuring is "time points are closed per 45 degrees of distributor rotation".  A V8 dwell meter is set up to display units of " degrees of points being closed (or is it open?) per 360 degrees of distributor rotation".  Therefore, In order for the meter to display the correct units, the scale of the display must divide the actual measured dwell by 8.  On a CB750, the points are attached to the crank, and therefore rotate at engine speed.  CB750 points only fire once per rotation.
IF the target points duration is 195 degrees for a cb750, that is 195/ distributor rotation.  In order to convert to what the V8 dwell meter would read, you simply have to divide 195 by 8. 

195/8 = 24.3.

From TT
Dwell is the duration of crank rotation that the points are closed in degrees.  If you set the point gap correctly, you get the proper degrees as it is machined into the points cam.  Honda says that this is 195 degrees.  Few dwell meters are calibrated to display this number for the SOHC4 and its wasted spark ignition cycle.  Dwell meters will have to be calibrated/ or interpreted for the number that it does display.

My calibration technique is to set brand new points to the gap specified, attach the dwell meter and note the indication.  Thereafter, you can use the noted reading to adjust used points for the same reading.

Cheers,

N, The dwell meter is simply a "more accurate", way of adjusting your' points gap.. as it indicates the # of degrees of  points cam duration points are closed. Points wear in two directions, 1st at the "rubbing block" and 2nd at the "contact faces" both alter the amount of "saturation time" the coils see to provide optimum spark. handy to know, (perhaps) but of little import in the "real world" a set of feeler guages or a buisness card in a pinch do fine for setting gaps. more important (as long as gaps are close) is where spark occurs. thus the need of a "timing light" and the "slotted " breaker plate. on "older" english twins, you "set" the timing on 1 set of points, then opened the gap on the 2nd set to make "timing" match... dwell & gap be damned.. Honda & other period 4's mount the 2nd set of points on a "movable" plate allowing timing on 2nd set of ponts to be changed while retaining "same " points gap, hope this helps luck G



Are you using an automotive dwell meter (like most folks have), or one that is motorcycle specific?

medic09
If you have a Clymer, it tells you "Make sure the meter is calibrated for small gasoline engines of 2 cylinders (one point set controls 2 cylinders).  On a 4-cylinder scale, the correct dwell would be 46-49; and on an 8-cylinder scale, 23-24.5."

Steve F
When I use my dwell meter, I use the 8-cyl. scale and the reading should be 23 to 24.5 degrees, this is based on the Clymer manual which says 2-cyl scale=92-98 deg., or 46-49 deg. on the 4-cyl. scale.  Since my meter apparently only reads the 8-cyl. scale correctly, I go with the 23-24.5 deg.
Hook-up is simple, black lead goes to the ground, and the red lead goes to the same connection as the condensor.
Adjust the point gap until you get the correct reading, lock 'em down and then set your timing.

This could go on and on. :)


« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 10:38:12 AM by Black 750K8 »

fendersrule

  • Guest
Re: 1978 CB750k Carb rebuild over the winter and tune up questions!
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2013, 11:22:11 AM »
Lots of fantastic info here. I'm going to proceed to tackle the ignition first, and then move on to the carbs for a tune up.

That's exactly my meter that I got from Sears. The meter is actually for 4 cyl engines. When using on 8 cyl engines you are suppose to multiply, so no calculations are necessary with this gauge. I'll post back when I've set this.

Do you guys find that the SOHC times better with static or dynamic timing? For example, Bill Lane states that the CB450 responds best to static timing, so I'm not even going to hook up a light gun to it.