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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #150 on: March 21, 2014, 07:39:40 AM »
Laced these guys up last night. Cognito Moto GSXR conversion hub to 3.5" x 17" Sun rim and stock CB750 rear drum to 4.25" x 17" Sun rim.







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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #151 on: March 21, 2014, 07:43:26 AM »
The passenger peg tubes were removed so I needed a way to get pegs back there. Did a little drawing earlier in the week.



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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #152 on: March 21, 2014, 07:46:20 AM »
Laced these guys up last night. Cognito Moto GSXR conversion hub to 3.5" x 17" Sun rim and stock CB750 rear drum to 4.25" x 17" Sun rim.







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« Reply #153 on: March 21, 2014, 08:55:47 AM »
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« Reply #154 on: March 21, 2014, 10:15:06 AM »
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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #155 on: March 22, 2014, 09:00:02 AM »
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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #156 on: March 22, 2014, 01:14:26 PM »
That's a heck of a long mount for passenger pegs!  Is it aluminum or steel, and how thick?
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #157 on: March 22, 2014, 01:16:14 PM »

That's a heck of a long mount for passenger pegs!  Is it aluminum or steel, and how thick?

I think they look long because of the short seat. It's 12" from front peg to rear. These are made from steel but the final will probably be aluminum. They are 3/8" thick so they don't flex at the rear


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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2014, 01:18:56 PM »

That's a heck of a long mount for passenger pegs!  Is it aluminum or steel, and how thick?

I think they look long because of the short seat. It's 12" from front peg to rear. These are made from steel but the final will probably be aluminum. They are 3/8" thick so they don't flex at the rear


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I kept looking at it thinking it was a trick of the eye since the seat is shorter.  I figured it had to either be steel or fairly thick aluminum to prevent flexing. 

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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #159 on: March 25, 2014, 09:20:41 AM »






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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2014, 12:16:45 AM »
Running 120/70/17 and 160/60/17 pilot power 3's



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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2014, 12:48:45 PM »
Making up a license plate/taillight/turn signal bracket




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« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2014, 05:35:02 PM »
Making up a license plate/taillight/turn signal bracket




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Great idea especially with the integrated turn signal mounts. Maybe you should make a universal shaped brake light bracket for other types of lights, eg. Lucas-style brake lights.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2014, 07:36:05 PM »
Hi Cognito, if you have the ability to make triple clamps for these conversions, why not make 50mm {750F} and 60mm {750K} offset clamps for the guys that want to retain close to stock geometry and use stock height wheels  {well 18inch or 19 inch}..?, It helps the bike handle better and keeps trail near to or where it should be..... ;)  I bet you would sell quite a few... I am having some clamps made up by another member for these exact reasons...
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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2014, 08:36:59 PM »
Hi Cognito, if you have the ability to make triple clamps for these conversions, why not make 50mm {750F} and 60mm {750K} offset clamps for the guys that want to retain close to stock geometry and use stock height wheels  {well 18inch or 19 inch}..?, It helps the bike handle better and keeps trail near to or where it should be..... ;)  I bet you would sell quite a few... I am having some clamps made up by another member for these exact reasons...

If you have the capacity for more products, I would echo that there is a demand for stock geometry trees to fit GSXR forks!
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2014, 08:19:23 AM »

Hi Cognito, if you have the ability to make triple clamps for these conversions, why not make 50mm {750F} and 60mm {750K} offset clamps for the guys that want to retain close to stock geometry and use stock height wheels  {well 18inch or 19 inch}..?, It helps the bike handle better and keeps trail near to or where it should be..... ;)  I bet you would sell quite a few... I am having some clamps made up by another member for these exact reasons...

Personally I like the feel I get with the stock gsxr offset. I know it's a common dispute over offset so I feel that make an upper and lower triple clamp with 60mm offset would be a great option for some folks. If your running stock 19" rims it would be very appealing.

I would prefer starting with a 60mm offset since it covers most of the 750's. Then maybe a 45mm for the CB550's

Spent my morning drawing it up to see how it could be done.

Added plus is that I can incorporate the stops into the lower triple.




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« Reply #166 on: March 27, 2014, 08:27:22 AM »

Hi Cognito, if you have the ability to make triple clamps for these conversions, why not make 50mm {750F} and 60mm {750K} offset clamps for the guys that want to retain close to stock geometry and use stock height wheels  {well 18inch or 19 inch}..?, It helps the bike handle better and keeps trail near to or where it should be..... ;)  I bet you would sell quite a few... I am having some clamps made up by another member for these exact reasons...

Personally I like the feel I get with the stock gsxr offset. I know it's a common dispute over offset so I feel that make an upper and lower triple clamp with 60mm offset would be a great option for some folks. If your running stock 19" rims it would be very appealing.

I would prefer starting with a 60mm offset since it covers most of the 750's. Then maybe a 45mm for the CB550's

Spent my morning drawing it up to see how it could be done.

Added plus is that I can incorporate the stops into the lower triple.




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The steering stops are a great design feature. I think you sell a bunch of these.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #167 on: March 27, 2014, 10:17:45 AM »
just in time! nice custom parts and your bikes look killer
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« Reply #168 on: March 27, 2014, 12:51:02 PM »
You already stepped up and produced what CycleX can't do.

Doing a triple tree would just be sweeter!! Plus, that would take away the pressure of finding a full front end. All we would need to do is just get the legs with the brake calipers.

People, go invest and get your stock GSXR Parts now. I see the demand and price about to sky rocket!!
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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #169 on: March 27, 2014, 05:35:01 PM »
You probably already know this, but CB400F has 60mm offset too.  This part could be used sold for 400 and 750s and provide you a larger market!


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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #170 on: March 27, 2014, 05:48:50 PM »

You probably already know this, but CB400F has 60mm offset too.  This part could be used sold for 400 and 750s and provide you a larger market!


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Haha I'll push this along. I'll get the prints done next week hopefully.


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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #171 on: March 27, 2014, 06:14:46 PM »
Were planning to have customers use stock stem?

Any thought to allow for mounting steering damper? 


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« Reply #172 on: March 27, 2014, 06:27:56 PM »

Were planning to have customers use stock stem?

Any thought to allow for mounting steering damper? 


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Kit would come with new stem like gsxr. I could put a tapped hole in the bottom for damper


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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #173 on: March 27, 2014, 06:42:36 PM »

Hi Cognito, if you have the ability to make triple clamps for these conversions, why not make 50mm {750F} and 60mm {750K} offset clamps for the guys that want to retain close to stock geometry and use stock height wheels  {well 18inch or 19 inch}..?, It helps the bike handle better and keeps trail near to or where it should be..... ;)  I bet you would sell quite a few... I am having some clamps made up by another member for these exact reasons...

Personally I like the feel I get with the stock gsxr offset. I know it's a common dispute over offset so I feel that make an upper and lower triple clamp with 60mm offset would be a great option for some folks. If your running stock 19" rims it would be very appealing.

I would prefer starting with a 60mm offset since it covers most of the 750's. Then maybe a 45mm for the CB550's

Spent my morning drawing it up to see how it could be done.

Added plus is that I can incorporate the stops into the lower triple.




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The steering stops are a great design feature. I think you sell a bunch of these.

60mm offset is no good for F model 750 Honda's, it reduces trail , Honda changed the F's frame rake and offset to aid in stability by adding trail, they used a 50mm offset, 50mm would be ok for the K model 750's as well as it increases trail slightly which will improve straight line stability, the K's were known for their tank slappers when ridden hard , thats why you see a lot of steering dampers on the K 750's, one of the reasons was due to its small trail numbers {around 3.7 inches i think} the K models have, thats why it was altered on the later F models.  I think a 50mm offset would suit both the F and K well. Also its a common mod to use an 18 inch front wheel with these conversions {for better tire selection, they were raced this way as well} , this slight lowering of the front also reduces trail, my point is that this can be compensated for by the 50mm offset clamps....  Just something to think about...
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Re: Cognito Moto CB750 cafe with GSX-R forks
« Reply #174 on: March 29, 2014, 08:30:35 AM »
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