many thanks guys ,after an ill fated attempt at finding an rc cast piston to match my 3 nos ones,a member helped me out with these so thank you you know who you are!the part no is the same as the modern 4016 but any install pages are kind of generic and show small valve pockets at the ex.and you are right they will fit any hole unlike the rc pistons..0025 clearance right.by the way they are nos!bill