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Offline kghost

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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #75 on: December 19, 2013, 12:09:52 PM »
Well Boys and girls......

Does Function follow form or does form follow function?

Cafes, Bobbers, and Choppers (at least back in the day) all had a common theme.......

Take off whatever doesn't make it go fast. Modify what's left to make it go faster.....

That's the Yardstick by which to measure. Function. Does it work and does it perform better.

Electric starters were an improvement and still are. Otherwise We'd still be heaving the leg.

That said if you've removed the starter and made your bike faster then good. Function

As stated, my 250 two stroke is kick only. It weighs 120 kilos and has minimal electrics from the factory. Its made to do 1 thing.....go fast. Function

Someone brought up pods......If you have pods and they make your bike faster (function) good!

The problem occurs because 90% of people can't (or wont put the time in) make their bike run right or faster with them.

If you can make it go hard with pods....use them. If you can't .....your a poser and should have stuck with the stock airbox.  Simple.

If you've ditched the big battery, starter, unneeded wiring and other bits to make your bike faster...good. While your at it get a smaller stator and a better left side cover to delete the stuff you don't need under it.

Following a trend because it looks cool on the other hand.....also makes you a poser.

I've lost track at the number of bikes that have been hacked up and butchered to call them a "café"

If it works cool. If it doesn't your not cool. Simple 

Ridiculously long forks, big beach ball tires, and huge sissy bars were cool once too.

 
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #76 on: December 19, 2013, 12:34:35 PM »
This topic reminds me of a pods vs airbox or even an oil thread, haha

I was thinking the same thing.  I was waiting for the picture of popcorn to appear!
That being said, as one of the few females who ride with you fellows on the World Tours and actually read these threads. I do kick start my 550 and I do think it is cool.   8) You should see the looks at gas stations and other sundry places I get when I kick it to life with ease.  Why is it cool?  If you have to have it explained then you will never understand... :-*

Well said. Where's your video : )

If you want to see me kick start the bike then join along in the WT-4...hopefully I will be able to take Pimpzilla back from FattMatt and take him through Arizona and New Mexico in April.  You should be downright bored of watching me start my bike after 10 days  ;)
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #77 on: December 19, 2013, 12:53:31 PM »
I kick start because Im paranoid about the battery and have an image in my head of the battery just slowly dying when i hit the button. Iv'e never ridden a bike without a kicker so It's weirder for me to use the elec than to not use it.
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #78 on: December 19, 2013, 12:59:12 PM »
I kick when the CB has been warm or started that day.
I figure it saves a little juice in the battery for other hard starts.
When the bike is dead cold or hasn't been started for a few days the button is much better.
 
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #79 on: December 19, 2013, 02:52:19 PM »
For anyone that's using the kick to "save the battery" you might want to ask yourself why the battery isn't getting fully charged as it should while your riding. Had this happen in sept or oct, charging system is not totally working at 100%. While at highway speeds its doing its job enough to top up the battery by not at a stop and go routine. My lack of electric start tipped me off to this and I had to resort to the kick, always thankfull for the back up in regards to the kicker. Once I have some spare time over the winter I'll dig out the multi meter and fault trace the electrics and clean the gronds and connections.
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #80 on: December 19, 2013, 03:21:31 PM »
If you've ditched the big battery, starter, unneeded wiring and other bits to make your bike faster...good. While your at it get a smaller stator and a better left side cover to delete the stuff you don't need under it.

The cost to remove the starter and therefore unnecessary wiring is zero. All the other upgrades you mentioned cost money. Yes, I would like to make those upgrades, as would probably every other kick-only rider, but money is funny. I would also like a turbocharger, but I don't have two grand plus laying around. Free upgrades are a no brainer, just like the ones listed in Hondaman's book.

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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #81 on: December 22, 2013, 04:16:13 AM »
Im still giggling like a school girl at Dave500 post....
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #82 on: December 22, 2013, 10:07:09 AM »
Part of the reason I kick was crap battery, I never seemed to be able to replace.  Less than 7 volts and, still starts.. When the neutral love light barely shows, still starts..
 But even in this  the the best of conditions, I mostly use  kick, and most of my bikes have been kick only..
  Simply could not be bothered on a custom bike to add all the other stuff... For what?
Very easy bike to kick anyway..
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #83 on: December 22, 2013, 10:43:05 AM »
Had to mention this one, JAWA 250, a very cool bike that has a shifter/kickstart combo. Couldn't find a non funny vid though....

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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2013, 02:16:36 PM »
This topic reminds me of a pods vs airbox or even an oil thread, haha

I was thinking the same thing.  I was waiting for the picture of popcorn to appear!






PS. I wish my RD350 had electric start!
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2013, 02:32:19 PM »
That is a funny vid Edward. I like the look of that smooth crank case.
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2013, 03:34:44 PM »
This topic reminds me of a pods vs airbox or even an oil thread, haha

I was thinking the same thing.  I was waiting for the picture of popcorn to appear!






PS. I wish my RD350 had electric start!

And there it is....Thank you Steve I can always count on you
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2013, 03:38:11 PM »
This topic reminds me of a pods vs airbox or even an oil thread, haha

I was thinking the same thing.  I was waiting for the picture of popcorn to appear!






PS. I wish my RD350 had electric start!

And there it is....Thank you Steve I can always count on you

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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2013, 08:07:10 PM »
I made my bike kick-only about 18 years ago because I wanted the bike to be as light as possible.
PS Frank, if you can start my bike by hand, I'll buy you TWO cyber beers!!! :o :o ;)
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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2013, 08:41:45 PM »
If it has a kicker I like to use it. The Wing, I have to open a panel remove kicker from side and insert into slot then start kicking. I use the starter on the wing all the time unless I'm showing off. When I road my 500 and 550 I kicked all the time.

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Re: Kick Start Thread
« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2013, 08:44:19 PM »
Homer doesn't use a button or a kick start. He uses a technology we just can't comprehend.

Watch carefully.

http://youtu.be/Td_AC37ICks
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