Topic: Why do some people when given the golden keys to the magic kingdom.......

[tomkimberly]

OK here is the full title:

Why do some people when given the golden keys to the magic kingdom fall flat on their face so quickly?

Case in point, my Manager was promoted 6 weeks ago to what one could only describe as the golden keys to the kingdom. He was charged with building a brand new manufacturing plant, tool it up as he saw fit, hire his own crew top to bottom (the number of people would have been around 400 employees), design the full manufacturing process (welding, fabrication, machining, assembly, painting, etc.) and become the facility's plant Manager.

Skip forward 5 weeks. my now ex boss is on his way home from some meetings with several developers and gets pulled over by the CHP. He is tested for drinking and arrested for blowing at least a 1.8, way over the legal limit here. The company is real zero tolerance company, he is gone in less than a day.

Sorry, but I'll not divulge the name of the company or the product as we all know the walls have ears.

Tom

[dusterdude]

It happens,unfortunately


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[scrapvalue]

It really doesn't make any sense to put that much faith in one individual and then throw him to the wolves because he makes one mistake. 
Does anyone on welfare get kicked out of the system for drunk driving?    Does a politician get fired for drunk driving? (Well, if he is a conservative he does). 
Why is it that the ones that actually produce something get raked over the coals?

[tomkimberly]

It really doesn't make any sense to put that much faith in one individual and then throw him to the wolves because he makes one mistake. 
Does anyone on welfare get kicked out of the system for drunk driving?    Does a politician get fired for drunk driving? (Well, if he is a conservative he does). 
Why is it that the ones that actually produce something get raked over the coals?

I'm with you 100%, people are guess what, people and we all have (or will) make mistakes. Why ruin someones life for a "bump" in the road?

Tom

[Stev-o]

Does a politician get fired for drunk driving? (Well, if he is a conservative he does). 

The District Attorney was arrested here about two months ago, I still cannot believe she still has her job (doesn't deserve it) 

[tomkimberly]

Does a politician get fired for drunk driving? (Well, if he is a conservative he does). 

The District Attorney was arrested here about two months ago, I still cannot believe she still has her job (doesn't deserve it)

Two different sets of rules, public sector and private. It's a shame, this guy is one of the best in his field.

Tom

[pangloss]

Recently completed a contract here with a very large infrastructure company.... Got breathalysed twice, along with 200 other employees, at 10 AM on a tuesday and 3PM on a thursday....ALL of us sitting behind computers in a large city office....!!   ZERO tolerance Policy... !

  George Orwell WOULD be pleased..!!

[kghost]

Because of guys like Trevor Ware.

Don't know Trevor?

He was a member here. B.O.X.N.I.F.E  Made a hell of a video

http://player.vimeo.com/video/34638170?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0

Here's what happened to him.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=112595.0

http://youtu.be/Ejzr87QOg8U

I have ZERO tolerance or respect for anyone who gets behind the wheel drunk or under the influence.

In my profession (Aviation) there is ZERO tolerance. Get a DUI and lose your license. Period and full stop.

Know what? I agree with it.

The "bump" in the road may be another person.

[scrapvalue]

Zero tolerance is fine, but it should be for everyone, if it is for anyone.

[mark]

..... gets pulled over by the CHP. He is tested for drinking and arrested for blowing at least a 1.8, way over the legal limit here. The company is real zero tolerance company, he is gone in less than a day.

This fellow sounds like a complete bag of douche.

The unfortunate part of this story is that the law does not allow for stringing these #$%*tards up from the nearest pole.

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[754]

I think it is pretty common, looks like they double or tripled his responsibilities.
 That may seem desirable to some, but face it, not all can handle it. It can be overwhelming. Different people use different cope mechanisms when under pressure.
A lot of people want to be the boss, but are not equipped to do so.
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However the DUI charge, is a serious matter, and the reading is pretty high. Does not strike me as an isolated incedent or one time episode.

[dhall57]

Some people for what ever reason are just in a self destruct mode. No mater what good comes their way be it financial gains, a great wife, husband and family, etc,etc they can't hold on to it for long. They destroy it with alcohol, drugs, and being unfaithful to their spouse. 

[Bob Wessner]

Seems to happen a lot in Hollywood and Washington, D.C. 

[scrapvalue]

Seems to happen a lot in Hollywood and Washington, D.C. 

Ya, but actors get to keep acting and politicians, well, they get to keep acting too!        Double standards and self righteous people make me want to puke.
 

[tomkimberly]

Because of guys like Trevor Ware.

Don't know Trevor?

He was a member here. B.O.X.N.I.F.E  Made a hell of a video

http://player.vimeo.com/video/34638170?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0

Here's what happened to him.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=112595.0

http://youtu.be/Ejzr87QOg8U

I have ZERO tolerance or respect for anyone who gets behind the wheel drunk or under the influence.

In my profession (Aviation) there is ZERO tolerance. Get a DUI and lose your license. Period and full stop.

Know what? I agree with it.

The "bump" in the road may be another person.

Kghost, we all understand your rage and I for one could not agree more. The issue I wanted to discus is why do they do what they do?

I've known this guy for well over 17 years. He has been on the wagon for at least 6 years now. How come he broke and jumped off the wagon?

Tom

[754]

To much pressure..
 Plus some business was commomly done over liquid lunches..
 Major temptation, and hard to stay dry. Liquid courage is handy to overcome nervousness.. But only in small doses..

[kghost]

I wish I had a ready answer......

I have a stepson here who suffers from depression.

Part of his attempts to deal with it involved alcohol.

Multiple DUI's and no more license. Off to rehab we sent him.

Still dealing with the issue.

In his case its pretty easy to understand what the cause is.

Other people its a bit harder.

[Duke McDukiedook]

Yeah, 1.8 sounds a bit high and more than moderate drinking. Sounds like the pressures were getting to him.

[tomkimberly]

Yeah, 1.8 sounds a bit high and more than moderate drinking. Sounds like the pressures were getting to him.

Yes, blowing a 1.8 means he was hammering them down. Maybe it was a testosterone business lunch?