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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2014, 09:15:43 AM »
Yes,

The cases will be bead blasted, then put into a warm water bath and agitated to get water moving through the orifices.  I will do this a bunch of times using fresh water until I don't feel any bead at the bottom of the sink.  I then go after everything with compressed air.  If I am still not happy, back into the bath again, and then into the ultrasonic cleaner.

There is a great Powder Coating Guide I picked up off Eastwood's Forum:


http://www.powdercoatguide.com/2012/11/welcome-to-powder-coating-complete-guide.html#.UwY33cKYZfw


Its a good read with some great tips.

Gersh
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2014, 09:56:47 AM »
Made some great progress, with a bit of a delay when it came to the Powder Coating….
I was ready to remove the rest of the engine from the frame.  Now that the Cylinder, Head, Head Cover and Pistons were all off, I figured it would be pretty easy to accomplish.  I took my small scissor jack and raised it enough to be tight against the oil pan and went after the rear mounting bolts to make sure I would not have to exert too much  force to remove them.  I wanted to document exactly how things are to go back.  All the hardware will be run for several days through the vibratory tumblers, except the engine mounting bolts.  I will hand polish the ends of them.



Before removing the cases from the frame, I removed the rotor and points plate,  The rotor pulling tool is the same as what was needed on the CB450, and luckily, I had one from that project.  Thanks Honda!



Here is the Brake Switch/Clutch Cable/Battery Box Mount.  I want to document how this all goes back together…



And then a quick reference to the cable routing towards the neck



Engine Collar – it will look really good all polished up…  there is also another one not pictured that fell out from between the engine and frame when I removed the mounting bolt…



I got the cases out with no problems. 



I then went after the Shifting Mechanisms before splitting the case



Bearing Block off Plate



Shifter Mechanism



Spring attachment



Everything out



I then removed all the case bolts.  It took a bit, but I figured out that there was one long bolt under the oil pan.  Once I removed the pan, I found the offending bolt and the cases came apart pretty easily.

Cases Split



Top Case



Bottom Case



So, time to give a shout out to Brad Arnold of Arnold's Designs.  I sent him the Top End of the engine to him for Vapor Blasting.  I prepped everything with degreasing and then glass bead and soda Blasting.  I packed everything up and sent it off to him.  Within a week, I had it all back and MAN!!!!!  It looks fantastic!

Before:



After:





I still need to give them a final clean out to make sure there are no beads in the oil passages, but they look awesome!

So, now that the top end looks so great, I wanted to make the cases look great as well.  I have the ability to powder coat and decided to test out a color I had chosen on the oil pan.  It is called Grey Aluminum (RAL 9007) from Powder By the Pound.  All went great, but it is not the right color…..  ALWAYS ASK FOR A SAMPLE.  The powder went on great, made a beautiful coat, but is way too grey for the cases.  I am having some other samples sent to me to choose an appropriate powder for the cases.

Anyway, here is how it went
I had Glass Beaded the pan after degreasing everything.  I then washed it in warm water to remove the soda and bead residue.  I then donned some Nitrile Gloves and used Brake Cleaner to remove any residual oils from the piece.  I then set my oven at 475 degrees and let the pan bake for about a half hour trying to maintain the pan itself at 450 degrees for 20 – 25 minutes.  This allows the part to bake off impurities that might otherwise degas while the powder is on the part, potentially ruining the powder coat results.  I then let the part cool, and while still wearing gloves, I used some Saran Wrap “Press ‘n Seal” to protect the gasket/O-ring surface.  I then gave it another blast of brake cleaner and let it evaporate off.
I then applied the Powder to the part using the Eastwood Gun at about 9 PSI.  You can see a really nice shine to the raw powder, and I was really looking forward to the end result.



I had let the oven cool to 400 Degrees, as the part needs to bake for 10 minutes after the pwder starts flowing (looks like liquid).  I lifted the pan by the wire handles and transferred it to the oven tray after pulling the Saran off the bottom of it.  Everything went perfect, but I am not happy with the color.
Here is the finished product:





So I will leave the oil pan as is, as it won’t be seen.  But I will be looking fo other options for the cases.
As soon as they are coated, the engine is ready to go back together.   
Until the next time…
Gersh
« Last Edit: March 05, 2014, 12:31:29 PM by dagersh »
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2014, 10:54:42 AM »
The pics don't do them justice...
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2014, 11:03:16 AM »
Some guys paste the SI Swimsuit issue up: I'm pasting pics of those cases on the garage wall...

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1977 CB550F Supersport

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2014, 11:16:01 AM »
great restoration, and super well documented.
i'll be watching this!

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2014, 12:08:24 PM »
calj - you are out of control!

Thanks guys!
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2014, 01:52:03 PM »

I am loving your work as per usual buddy!

One thing I got told to do with parts after a vibra polish was to put them into warm water in a big pot, bring them to the boil and boil them for a good hour to get all the little beads and paste out of any of the oil galleys where they may be stuck.

Last thing you want is a blocked oil galley!

I like the silver grey paint on the pan, looks 'tough' which is a good look for the part of the engine closest to the road.
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2014, 11:40:53 AM »
Thanks Unc!

The coat looks great, but on the cases it would be too grey, not enough polish. 

The vibratory tumblers actually leave only a little residue which is easily blown out with compressed air.  On pieces with oil galleys and such I go after them with pipe cleaners and such as added protection.

So far everything has cleaned up beautifully.  I tried the boiling water on the carbs that I polished, not only did it make mud out of the media residue, but it marred the polished surfaces.  I redid them in a better media after cleaning them out and ultra sonic'd them after cleaning them.  I made sure no heat above body temp was present (ultrasonic cleaning creates heat) and everything worked out great.

How's everything with you?

Gersh
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2014, 11:56:09 AM »
Iron,

I am using Harbor Freight units - the smaller 5lb ones.





I have one set up with their "Rust Cutting Pyramids"





and another with "Dri-Shine" Media from Eastwood.




I thought it was walnut shells - but its a bit different.

I find the Harbor Freight units to be really robust, and they don't walk when on, so you don't really have to worry when you want to use them overnight.  I would say that I have easily made up their costs in saved hardware that was put into better than new condition.

With the Dri-Shine media I put in a gob of any kind of paste metal polish - Blue Magic, Mothers, and especially Happich's Simichrome



I have used this on all different parts, and I am thinking about building a really big unit for doing Engine Side covers and maybe even cases....

I am going to try a different method without small media on a spare corroded carburetor body to see if I can get good results without any clogging of the fuel passages.  Hopefully I will be able to update after the weekend.

Gersh

I wish they made the tumblers to accommodate larger parts like valve covers, etc.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2014, 12:55:40 PM »
Things are good Gersh, busy building a Bob Hansen CB450 race bike over on Honda Twins forum.

Just hit the jackpot on parts.
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2014, 07:33:10 AM »
Gersh...that motor looks amazing. Is this the first time you have taken one of these motors apart? The inside of those cases and the shifting mechanisms look hairy.
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2014, 01:47:59 PM »
CRF - I have an extra base that I want to experiment a bit with using some cylindrical - think "Pool Chemical" - containers.  The problem is the completely round containers make the media move like a constant wave breaking on the beach.  I am not sure a flat bottom will work as the media will not flow around the part.  That said, the constant vibration of the media moving on the part may well work.


Riv - Its my first time into an SOHC4.  I did a complete rebuild on my CB450/500T project.  With a manual, parts diagrams and copious amounts of "before" pics - not to mention the security of knowing you can post on here - getting back together is not too daunting.

Anyway, still waiting for some powder samples to see what to do with the cases.  So decided to go after all my footpegs, battery box and the front engine mounts to be PC'd black.

Everything worked out great, all the bolts are in the tumbler after getting bead blasted clean.  I will update with progress pictures tis weekend.

Gersh
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #62 on: March 18, 2014, 12:48:58 PM »
I got a boatload of work done over the past 2 weeks.  Most all of it cleaning, Powder Coating and Polishing.  There are going to be a ton of pics so here we go.

Let’s talk a bit about cheap Chinese made tools for a minute:
Here is a close up of the Swingarm and Passenger Pegs. 



It is pretty representative of the condition  of the frame components over all.  I wanted to experiment a bit with glass beading parts so I went to my local Tractor Supply and picked up a small media blasting cabinet dedicated to glass beading. 

TSC unit:




My large Soda Blast cabinet works great, but when mixing in glass bead in the main, large hopper it just does not get the job done die to the amount of spent soda that is mixed in with it.  The problem is that the spent soda immediately creates a dense cloud which is really tough to see through, and just does not cut enough paint and crud before you need to let everything settle so you can see what you are doing.
That said – the TSC unit is a POS – it leaks like crazy, sending glass bead all over the workshop, even using a shop vac as an air draw.  To make this thing worth a damn, I will have to replace the poly window with real glass, seal off all the seams where the case comes together and seriously beef up the seals o n the top loading door.  I did check out the HF unit, priced similarly, and it looks to be a much better unit – but I don’t know that for sure…
The HF Unit:


Alright, rant over – Let’s get back to work!

Here is the general condition of everything coming off the bike:







I Bead Blasted everything.  I put the rubber steps into a Simple Green Bath after a hot water cleaning.  All the bare metal parts went into the tumbler for a bunch of days with Dri-Shine and a dollop of Simi-Chrome.  I then Powder Coated the Frame Mounts gloss Black.  Here is everything put back together:



You can see the mounting bolts as well as the Hardware for the Drivers Pegs that all received the same treatment.  I will Post pics of those later on (I forgot to do it,,,,,)  Along with the pegs, I did the Front Engine Mounting Plates, Muffler Bracket, Kickstand and Battery Box.
Muffler Bracket


Kick Stand – The Rubber Stand was soaked in Simple Green for 2 days, came out nice and pliable




Here is the completed box – although the SG ate up the Battery cushions.  I will try to salvage them, if not I have another battery box somewhere….



We had some beautiful weather over the weekend, so I pulled out the buffer to go after the engine covers.  I had done a little wet sanding to the breather cover and sprocket cover as they has some deep scratches – Wow, I have no patience for wet sanding aluminum….

After a round of 400 and then 600 – where is my buffer? ???




Ahhh – that’s better!





I will have to back over these as there are still scratches visible in the light – but it had started raining and buffing indoors makes a bloody mess…  hmmm, even outdoors as well!  Anyway – here is where I started compared to almost finished



Calj – here is some more porn for you with a shiny cherry on top!



So – on to the monster…  Powder Coating the Engine Cases.  Earlier, I had thoroughly cleaned, blasted and re-cleaned, re-cleaned and you guessed it, re-cleaned again the cases.  After copious amounts of Brake Clean and compressed air, along with a soft pipe cleaner I am 99% confident that all the glass bead is out of the oil galleys, bolt holes and any other place the bead can hide.  I then put them back into a water bath and shot compressed air and water through everything checking the bottom of the tub for any grit.  Like the little ghost hunter in Poltergeist said, “This house is clean!”  Oh wait, she was wrong, wasn’t she?



So first up, I sprayed down the outer cases with brake clean, let it evaporate and then Baked everything for a half hour at 450 degrees.  I did this with the Oil Pan a few weeks prior so when I started this they were well cooled off (Ya’ Think?)
I again sprayed everything down with brake clean and dried it with compressed air.  I took the rack from my oven and set the bottom case on it after wrapping the rack with tin foil to keep the mating surface free from powder.  I used green painter’s tape and covered the areas I wanted to protect from the powder.





I covered what I wanted, and then traced the the outlines with a razor blade.  It would have been MUCH easier to use an X-Acto blade or scalpel.
In order to cover the oil filter mounting, I used the Filter Cover as a template.  It was a bit crowded to get the right shape of the mask on the Lower Cover itself, so this made it much easier,

Taped the cover opening, and cut out the inside for the shape




On the Case after cutting a relief in the middle for the bolt receiver which was then just covered up.



All set up and ready to go.  I covered the bolt holes to keep powder from getting inside the case.  At this point, I carefully sprayed brake clean over areas that I thought I might have touched during the masking process - the tape kept sticking to my gloves  >:(  - to make sure there was no oil or grease on the bare metal.  Be careful around the tape, but it will hold up even if you get a little Brake Clean on it.   ;)





Once I applied the powder, I carefully pulled the masking tape off making sure not to touch any powdered surface.  At this point, if you do, You will need to clean everything and replace any removed masking.  Basically, start from scratch.

Here is the uppercase after powder, but before removing the mask.  The color I am using is “Silver Speed Metallic” from www.powderbuythepound.com It applies white in uncooked form, but will transform in the oven.



In the oven. 



Here is the finished product:








I don’t know what happened here.  Its discolored, but very smooth so I am not sure it will be a problem down the road – and its underneath….



Uppercase masked:



Done:




Okay – at this point I was at least 8 Rogue Hazelnut Browns in…  I wanted some $$$ shots.  Not in any conceivable order…  Enjoy!


































Oh boy!!!!!!  Let’s get this beast assembled!

Gersh
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2014, 02:41:13 PM »
"I'll be in my bunk".
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2014, 02:49:06 PM »
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1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2014, 09:18:36 PM »
PC'd cases look so damn clean.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2014, 07:22:13 AM »
PC'd cases look so damn clean.

+1.  I applaud your attention to detail. 
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2014, 08:06:13 AM »
Thanks Guys!

I am now checking my bearing clearances, and if all is well, its going to start coming back together.

Gersh
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2014, 09:20:29 AM »
Alright - Checked my Crank Clearance with Plastiguageand all is well - Assuming that .003 is the wear limit.  Mine were all between .001 and .002.

Time to put this engine back together.

Gersh
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1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2014, 06:59:06 PM »
Daaamn, those carbs look great! Now i feel bad about my "cleaning" efforts. Haha.

 And from your pics i can see that im missing a few fiddly bits like the synch linkage and the black rubber attachments between the arms theyve all but crumbled off on mine). Uhoh. I wonder how well these will work without em...
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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2014, 10:13:41 AM »
No those won't work without them....  that is a potentially a real PITA.

Contact harrisuluv on here, he may be able to help you out with some parts.


Calj -

Every bit as beautiful as SohRon's restoration, and in my meager opinion, that is the Gold Standard I've seen. Not to say other bikes and builds aren't gorgeous, just this level of restoration is really uniquely beautiful to me.

A huge fan-

I spent some time over on SohRon's resto thread...  I appreciate the compliment, but must defer to him.  My stuff looks amateurish in comparison.

Gersh
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2014, 10:48:26 AM »
Yeah, I am trying not to replace anything that is not a consumable - gaskets and seals not included.

I do have a big order coming in from Western Hills, though....

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1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration - The Rebuild Officially Begins!
« Reply #72 on: March 24, 2014, 12:54:13 PM »
The Rebuild begins!

Not a lot accomplished, but the  engine is ready to go back together.  I wanted a dry run to check everything and then also to make sure I could get the Shift Forks to line up so that the case halves could come back together.

I also realized that in my Powder Coating, I neglected to mask off RH Rear Upper Mount surface where the Ground Strap is Secured, thus Grounding the Engine to the Frame.  A quick hit of the Tan 3M Rocloc on my Die Grinder solved the issue.  Oh, please make sure to wear eye protection AT ALL TIMES!!!!  (Whew, that was close, deadly bits of Powder Coat hurt your face!)



The First piece installed back into the engine is the Starter Reduction Gear making sure to lock the bolt with the Locking tabs on the washer.



Then the Crank.



I wanted to check the clearance of the crank and main bearings, so I went to my local Napa and bought some Green Plastigauge.  Since I did not pull the crank apart and the bike ran strong, I am going to assume if the clearance of the crank and main bearings checked out, I would just leave the Connecting Rods alone.  The bike was 100% out of service due to the horrendous state of the Carbs.

When I went to put the cases together to check clearance, Mr. Murphy found me and pointed out where all the Glass Bead was actually hiding.  It was all in the 8mm Threads in the Upper Case that torque the Crankshaft.  So out came the Metric Tap kit with lots of grease to get that nastiness out of there.

Anyway, long story short, the clearance was all in spec and I am ready to assemble the lower end.

I started back on the uppercase assembling the Shifter Forks and Drum.  The assemblies must be put together inside the case.  The Center Shifter fork as some small bits (the locating pin and clip) so be patient and aware of them. 

 As you can see here, I did not do it correctly the first time…  no I did not use the hammer….



Ahhh, much better...  Seriously, make sure the “Long” parts of the shifter fork are facing each other.  And look, no hammer necessary!



I then Attached the Neutral Switch after cleaning up the contact at bit.



Here is the Bearing and Retainer on the other side of the Shift Drum.  Make sure the bearing is flush to the case.




Here is the Shifter Cam assembled on the drum



I then turned to the Lower Case Assemblies.  I had left the Primary Shaft Bearings in the freezer for a few days.  I heated the Lower case where the LH Bearing sits near the Oil Pump and Starter Motor Mount and the Bearing was easily reinstalled.  I then put the Starter Clutch Assembly into its place on the Primary Chain and inserted the Primary Shaft until the RH Bearing was flush with the Case.  I put on the Bearing retainer (Part #2) on the RH side, but left the Top Bolt off as the Shifter Assembly will use the Upper Bolt as a mounting point when the cases are joined.  This is why the Upper Bolt is longer than the lower one – even though the parts diagram shows only the one 6 X 14 bolt (Part #22).  The Longer Bolt is shown on the Shifter Fork/Drum Parts Diagram as Part # 24 (6 X 24)





I then installed the Kick Starter and Shifter Spindles.  I messed up on the Kicker and fortunately was set straight by Dave500.

Here is that discussion:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135531.0

When Assembling the Kick Starter I found it easiest to use my body (read as Beer Belly) to stabilize the outer part of the shaft where the Kick Arm Attaches so that you can “pull” the Inner Assemblies together in order to get the final washer and 12mm circlip over the end of the shaft.  It’s a pain in the arse, and took up a good majority of my day.  At least I will know how to do it next time…


I then Moved onto installing the Transmission gears.



It is important to note that as you can see from the pictures, I have been replacing the oil seals as I go.

So, now I am ready to dry run the joining of the cases

Upper ready to go:



Lower Ready to go:



I just cleaned up the outer surface of the oil pump of oxidation.  I wanted to leave the cast texture of the rest of it as it gives it more surface area to cool.  When I had the bike running I checked under the tappets for oil flow, and all was very well, so I am leaving well enough alone.

As per some advice, I made sure the gears were in neutral, ie they spin freely.  I then carefully lowered the top case onto the bottom.  It took a few tries but after some massaging I got ‘er done.



Mind you there is no Yamabond here…  I will be doing it again for real this upcoming weekend.  I say this because on my 450 Project I totally forgot to use the Yamabond and had to completely disassemble the completed engine to put it between the cases.  No, seriously, that happened  :-[

Gratuitous Pictures to follow….







Next up, joining the cases and taking apart the frame, wheels and swingarm.

Gersh

1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2014, 04:53:44 PM »
That big ugly red and yellow BMW keeps getting in the photos and must be in your way.

Just box it up and post it...
CB750K2 (only slightly modified)

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Re: 1977 CB550F Restoration
« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2014, 07:48:52 PM »
It's waiting for you ride it in the Catskills!  Although you did say you wanted the 'Buda this time!
1962 CA95
1966 Black Bomber
1966 CA77 Dream
1967 Superhawk
1970 CB750K0
1972 CL350
1972 CB450/500 Custom
1972 CB500K1
1975 CB550F
1976 CB400F
1975 CB750 Future Restoration
1976 CB750K6
1976 CB750F
1976 GL1000


1968 Suzuki T500 Cobra
1990 BMW K1
2001 'Busa
2003 RC 51
Bunch of Guzzi's

http://www.sohc4.us/gallery/v/members/personal/dagersh/