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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #250 on: January 26, 2015, 07:00:23 AM »
This needs more updates.

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« Reply #251 on: January 26, 2015, 07:50:17 AM »
Then stop littering my phone with text messages with trifling inquiries about your hodge-podge bike project!  ;D
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #252 on: January 26, 2015, 07:38:41 PM »
Well I spent about 1.5 hours this evening sorting out every nut and bolt and packaging then up in separated baggies so I can reassemble the engine. While doing this, I couldn't resist a few test fits of the new ARP studs and nuts in different locations.

A shot of my Mike Rieck intakes, ported and polished, and hanging on new studs and nuts forum ARP
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #253 on: January 26, 2015, 08:21:03 PM »
Nice! Looking forward to seeing the motor come together.
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #254 on: January 26, 2015, 08:23:32 PM »
Me too. Should have it wrapped up next week. Trying to bust a re-wire with Dusterdude on his K1 this weekend, so gotta make some time to bolt it all together in between.
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #255 on: January 26, 2015, 11:29:35 PM »
Looking good Cal, I might have to get you to help me with getting stud sets, they look great... ;)
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #256 on: January 27, 2015, 12:23:29 AM »
Waiting to see the touch of the master.
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #257 on: January 27, 2015, 04:50:22 AM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on January 26, 2015, 11:29:35 PM
Looking good Cal, I might have to get you to help me with getting stud sets, they look great... ;)
Ordered them (and all my ARP actually) through www.allensfasteners.com. The entire order (+150 pieces) came in a small Flat USPS box for $6 shipping and landed to me in 4 days from order. Gotta love that. His website is bit clunky because you have to select each piece, then add the quantity, then put in the cart, then go back to the previous page to select the next one and so on. I asked if I could email him a spreadsheet with a bulk order and he declined because his app generates a pick-sheet. Oh well, what else you going to do with 3 hours in the evening?

Seems silly to get worked up over nuts and bolts, I know, but I gotta tell you, they're just unbelievably nice to spin nuts on them. Smooth like a newborn's backside and absolutely no slop in the threads. They've got a really beautiful lustre to them from being tumbled, not polished. Proper respect for the handiwork of Mike's that lurks beneath the covers  ;) I even have them for the cam and chain sprockets because I am that obsessive about their quality.
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #258 on: January 27, 2015, 06:50:28 AM »
You'll see when it comes time to attach the cam sprocket. There isn't room for a large head so it has to be designed for a wrench to fit well. Plus the most important feature of a good bolt for this job is the shoulder fit in the sprocket hole, important especially if it's slotted. Uncle Mike (who else  ;D) recommended Yamaha bolts #90105-07004 and I concur they're the best part for the job I've found.

Sorry to pick out one part of your post, but it raised a flag right off. The bolts look good though.  ;)
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #259 on: January 27, 2015, 07:02:50 AM »
The ARPs arent that large of a head, barely wider than the stock hex heads. Or are you referring to the height of the head? You are correct, I haven't evaluated the interference potential there yet.
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #260 on: February 11, 2015, 05:26:30 PM »
Started buttoning up the lower end. I'm dry fitting the piston/cylinder to measure for the piston depth so I can get the correct head gasket. Using the Wisecos, seems the pistons are 0.032" in the hole, so decking the block will be required.

HD studs are installed, and now I've just got to grab my gasket from Marieck, install the cam chain and tensioner, and bolt down the head... Maybe next week, probably the next; I've got to fly to the west coast and help my brother move cross country...  :'( gonna do the 2600 miles in under 3 days if possible. Wish me luck-
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #261 on: February 11, 2015, 05:35:24 PM »
Calj737,
Is there any chance that you could post your spread sheet for the bolts and nuts you ordered?
And being pushy, (LOL) if you have the Allen Fasteners part numbers on the spreadsheet that would be extra nice.

Thanks,

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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #262 on: February 11, 2015, 05:47:36 PM »
I'll look and see if I still have it. Swapped laptops a few weeks back, and it may not have made it over to the new drive. Hadn't even thought about it until you mentioned it...
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'73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #263 on: February 11, 2015, 05:55:51 PM »
Oldhatt I vaguely remember there's a spreadsheet in the forum already, I think where all the manuals are located, wherever that is, as I can't find it anywhere.
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #264 on: February 11, 2015, 06:09:11 PM »
Oldhatt - Sorry, spreadsheet is gone, but I do have a recent copy of the Order I placed. It will give you some idea to quantity, length and pitch on the assortment I ordered. The M10x1.5 are not stock, but I am using them for engine mounting since they're coupled with a new nut of same pitch. Just and FYI...
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #265 on: February 11, 2015, 06:19:33 PM »
Calj737

That's a heck of a list!!!!!
THANK YOU!  Wanted to get an idea as to the differences and similarities between the 550 & 750 and what I may need to order when I get to the engine on my K6.

MickB,
Thanks, I have a copy of the Nuts & Bolts sheet.  But I was interested in what fasteners the 550 uses as I said above.
But, Thanks for reminding me.

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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #266 on: February 11, 2015, 06:22:25 PM »
Coming together so nicely Cal. Stoked on this one man!
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #267 on: February 11, 2015, 06:25:03 PM »
Have fun with the move mate, I'm beginning to think you are some kind of sadomasochist.... :o ;D ;)
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #268 on: February 11, 2015, 06:50:33 PM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on February 11, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
Have fun with the move mate, I'm beginning to think you are some kind of sadomasochist.... :o ;D ;)
I wrote the book on Sadomasochism, Retro. I just arrived home yesterday from a down-and-back to FL to see the mum. Off to a weekend futball tourney, then home Monday and then fly out tuesday. Keeps the wife happy that I'm away so much I think  ;)
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #269 on: February 11, 2015, 09:14:45 PM »
Maaaan, you work clean lookin real good, Cal.


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« Reply #270 on: February 11, 2015, 10:05:12 PM »
Good luck with the cross-country move Cal. I hope your brother is buying the pizza!
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #271 on: February 12, 2015, 04:41:02 AM »
Have a safe trip!
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #272 on: February 12, 2015, 05:19:32 AM »
Cannonball run.  8)
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #273 on: February 12, 2015, 05:42:40 AM »
Hadn't thought about that, Brent.... ::) I would be a major threat in that race insofar as I can personally drive tank to tank without stopping (530 miles in my sedan). Passengers commence clawing at the windows and calling for the Staties shortly after quarter tanks elapse.

A warning to anyone with incontinence: Don't road trip with me!

Road trip story time-

About a decade ago, took some pals to Mexico for a bird hunting trip. They were from Atlanta, me and my local pal flew from Richmond to meet them in Dallas. As boys do, we ended up in a bar awaiting a flight and missed the connection... So, with a limited trip schedule and international permits, only good option was to drive (535 miles). Being a good host, I grabbed a rental car which due to our baggage and 4 adults needed to be a minivan.

As we pulled from the airport without baggage stuffed in, guest #1 and #2 from Atlanta spied a beverage store. Told them to stock up as I wasn't stopping but for petrol... They return with 2 cases of Heineken and a styro cooler filled with ice. So for the next 7 hours (doesn't seem to be a spped limit going south through Texas thankfully) I am flying very low with the speedo buried, 2 feet pressed onto the pedal, and these galoots in the back drinking up a storm. Problem is, drinking that much generally produces the need to expel some liquid. Remember, I don't stop...

So there we are, 4 grown men reliving our University days as best we can, misbehaving in public, traveling with bags for hunting (firearms safely locked away) and me stone cold sober but pushing. Despite their unrelenting cries for mercy, I would not stop. So, being a minivan, they decided they didn't need to travel with a door closed, and realized that it made for quite a convenient evacuation panel.

I don't care how badly you have to Pee. You don't have enough flow to prevent it from flying back inside a car moving over 100 MPH and spraying your mate seated beside you... (No worries, the van was a rental). So after the hammerheads deciphered how to NOT drown in each other's urine, they quite happily drank away, refilling the beer at the gas station.

By the time we arrived in Brownsville, the van was running on 4 tires ballooned in pressure, smoke emanating from every hose, wheel hub, and the exhaust was cherry red. Not to mention the odor from the back of the cargo area...

Moral of the story: make your connection THEN get drunk, lest you road trip with me...
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Re: '73 500 - Small steps ahead
« Reply #274 on: February 12, 2015, 07:13:08 AM »
Yup, boys & beer, always lead to a good story.  ;D
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