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Re: Anybody else hoarding light bulbs?
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2014, 10:25:53 AM »
oh dont get the ausies on to the subject of brits taking showers !

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Re: Anybody else hoarding light bulbs?
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2014, 11:13:58 AM »
I am currently hoarding mine in my tin foil hat, shirt and pantaloons so I can ride my pennyfarthing when the metalocalypse happens.
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Re: Anybody else hoarding light bulbs?
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2014, 11:58:05 AM »
oh dont get the ausies on to the subject of brits taking showers !

And here I was thinking it was a soap problem..... ;D ;)
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Re: Anybody else hoarding light bulbs?
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2014, 12:08:13 PM »
I really don't get the fascination with incandescent bulbs and the notion that regulation is somehow "trampling on our rights."

Incandescents are essentially electric heaters that have the side effect of producing light. They're so incredibly inefficient and we should be really glad that we're in the middle of a change toward new technologies for making light in our homes. CFLs have come a long way and LEDs are truly amazing, if still slightly expensive. The fact that you can now light a room with 5-10 watts versus 100-150 watts is true progress.

Gov policy can do a lot to help speed up the adoption. More people will now try LEDs which will get more manufacturers into the game and increase competition and drop the cost of the equipment very quickly.

Or you can fill your bunkers with NOS incandescents and feel like you're defending your freedom. A tin foil hat might be useful in protecting your head from the heat.

For me it's not so much "for protecting freedom's" as you say but the health hazard that they carry.. I suffer from migraines and the cfl's are the worst trigger's of my migraines and my daughter's as well.. not to mention it hurts people with Lupus and the led's are bad once the coating over it starts to break lose for them... it's like they are in direct sunlight.. and for people with Lupus that's not  good thing.. you can say then buy the other bulb but what if they have migraines then it's double jeopardy for them.. They would suffer all the way around. Don't you see the point.. And if the bulbs last so long then our power rates are going to go up to off set the saving to each house hold so in actuality we are not saving a dime we pay more for the bulbs , more the lights and if you have any medical problems that these lights may trigger then there you go, you pay more for the meds to help of set pain or side effects from having to put those lights in your house. Hoping that guy can get that site fixed soon... At least there is an alternative to the original light bulb.. via my post above..

I was reacting to the OP who said "screw the government."

On the health issue, I'd never argue with having you use what's best for you. You'll still be able to buy incandescents, but just not in 100+watt monster sizes.

I know that the old-style long tube flourescents flicker at about 60Hz, which is in the range of what the human eye can detect. But aren't CFLs somewhere in the 20,000+ range? Can something so far beyond your perception really cause headaches. Or could it have to do more with the color of the light than the flicker? Again, I'd never suggest you should use something if it bothers you, but are CFLs simply "guilty by association" with old-skool fluorescent tubes? 

Either way, LEDs are really the future. The light quality and functionality are going up almost as fast as the price is going down, they are incredibly efficient, and they don't flicker. As for LEDs being bad if their coatings fall off, I've never heard of that risk. You might similarly say that incandescents cause thousands of home fires each year, so they are no good. Which is not true.

This kinda makes me feel like the arguments we had in the late 1990s when cell phones started to come around. Some people believed that there would be a massive wave of brain cancer by the mid-2000s.

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Re: Anybody else hoarding light bulbs?
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2014, 12:19:35 PM »
I really don't get the fascination with incandescent bulbs and the notion that regulation is somehow "trampling on our rights."

Incandescents are essentially electric heaters that have the side effect of producing light. They're so incredibly inefficient and we should be really glad that we're in the middle of a change toward new technologies for making light in our homes. CFLs have come a long way and LEDs are truly amazing, if still slightly expensive. The fact that you can now light a room with 5-10 watts versus 100-150 watts is true progress.

Gov policy can do a lot to help speed up the adoption. More people will now try LEDs which will get more manufacturers into the game and increase competition and drop the cost of the equipment very quickly.

Or you can fill your bunkers with NOS incandescents and feel like you're defending your freedom. A tin foil hat might be useful in protecting your head from the heat.

For me it's not so much "for protecting freedom's" as you say but the health hazard that they carry.. I suffer from migraines and the cfl's are the worst trigger's of my migraines and my daughter's as well.. not to mention it hurts people with Lupus and the led's are bad once the coating over it starts to break lose for them... it's like they are in direct sunlight.. and for people with Lupus that's not  good thing.. you can say then buy the other bulb but what if they have migraines then it's double jeopardy for them.. They would suffer all the way around. Don't you see the point.. And if the bulbs last so long then our power rates are going to go up to off set the saving to each house hold so in actuality we are not saving a dime we pay more for the bulbs , more the lights and if you have any medical problems that these lights may trigger then there you go, you pay more for the meds to help of set pain or side effects from having to put those lights in your house. Hoping that guy can get that site fixed soon... At least there is an alternative to the original light bulb.. via my post above..

I was reacting to the OP who said "screw the government."

On the health issue, I'd never argue with having you use what's best for you. You'll still be able to buy incandescents, but just not in 100+watt monster sizes.

I know that the old-style long tube flourescents flicker at about 60Hz, which is in the range of what the human eye can detect. But aren't CFLs somewhere in the 20,000+ range? Can something so far beyond your perception really cause headaches. Or could it have to do more with the color of the light than the flicker? Again, I'd never suggest you should use something if it bothers you, but are CFLs simply "guilty by association" with old-skool fluorescent tubes? 

Either way, LEDs are really the future. The light quality and functionality are going up almost as fast as the price is going down, they are incredibly efficient, and they don't flicker. As for LEDs being bad if their coatings fall off, I've never heard of that risk. You might similarly say that incandescents cause thousands of home fires each year, so they are no good. Which is not true.

This kinda makes me feel like the arguments we had in the late 1990s when cell phones started to come around. Some people believed that there would be a massive wave of brain cancer by the mid-2000s.

I'm with you on all points here Vames, I suffer from migraines as well, the fluro's have nothing to do with it and the LED comments are wrong , it all sounds like scaremongering due to either people thinking they are being forced to change or scared of change. Like i said earlier in this thread, incandescents are gone here, compact fluro's have been around for ages with NO silly side effects and LED's are taking off and are common, Phillips are now selling LED's that will last around 25 years, you can't beat that and they are incredibly cheap to run....  I must add that LED's are nothing like sunlight and have lower emittance of UV than any other light source which makes them far safer than all other lights, that makes the Lupus theory fall on its head....
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