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Offline InAquaVeritas

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CB750 F1 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« on: January 13, 2014, 09:57:19 am »
Hey guys,

I'm new to the forum, so here's a short introduction and my ideas for my bike.

I'm from the Netherlands (yes, that tiny country in Europe) and bought my first real bike a while back. I already own a little Suzuki GN250 I used when I had an Australian license for a while (travelled, got it, ended up not being able to change it..) My real bike is a 1977 CB750F, according to the shop manual and frame number it's one of the first runs of the model.

It has had some minor work done by the previous owner:
Electrical ignition
Shortened fenders
Different exhaust
Rejetted
Cone intakes
Different handlebars

My plan for this bike is a two step process, as this is still my only commuter bike and I don't own a car. Cars are expensive to own, insure and run over here, Amsterdam is the most expensive city in the world to park at almost 6 euro's ($8,20) an hour and gas being 1,70/L ($6,50/gallon) bikes are the better option.
Coming februari, when it gets seriously cold I'll take it off the road and start some work on it.

The first step is improving the handling and braking. I'm looking to swap out the front end with superbike upside downs (I know, very original), cast wheels and big rotors. It also needs new coils and leads and new clutch plates.
It will also get a few optical improvements like a new seat, new rear light and blinkers, paintjob, lower the gauges, lower the headlight, braided brake lines and some other bits and bobs.

The second step, which will be down the road, will consist of overhauling the engine. It still runs really well, although there's a pretty solid knocking sound and feel coming from the big during 2nd/3rd gear low revs.
It will get 836cc's, a new gearbox (#3 is pretty bad), new cam, new airbox (better airflow then the cones), new carbs and maybe a new exhaust.

The main problem is cost over here. The bike market isn't as big as it is in the US or even the UK, so parts are pretty expensive and not too easy to come by. I've been digging through the forum already and have come across some amazing conversions that have helped me out a lot already.
Now it's about getting parts together that match and are available at a reasonable cost.

I might bug you guys about info on some of the builds, mainly more in-depth stuff on axle, bearing, tube diameters and making sure things are safe!

I'm not a mechanic, although I've worked on a few bikes before. A friend of mine will be helping me, he runs a small custom shop in Amsterdam but his main deal is Bobbers, so his knowledge for my conversion is limited. Fortunately he has done the 836cc conversion himself already.

If anyone has information, do's and don'ts or suggestions already, I'm open to anything.

Cheers!

Yvo
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 09:46:32 am by InAquaVeritas »
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1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 10:22:24 am »
Man, that is a great looking skoot just as it is!
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 10:30:53 am »
Yvo,

Welcome to the forum.  It looks like your bike may be an earlier model titled as a 1977, or a modified 1977.

The 1975-76 CB750F models had spoked wheels and a single front disc brake.  The 1977-78 CB750F modes used Comstar wheels and dual front disc brakes.  (http://www.sohc4.net/cb750f-model-guide/)  It also has what appears to be a CB750K style seat.  The Super Sport seats have a rear cowl.

You mentioned that the engine is knocking.  You may need to have the camchain adjusted.  Your priorities of improving the handling and braking are a good start.  You should replace the ball bearing in the steering race with roller bearings, and replace the bushings in the swingarm with brass bushings.  Steel braded lines are also a good improvement. 

If you proceed with the front end swap (to a USD fork), there are many threads on this forum to provide guidance.  The most popular swap is to a GSXR front.  It is pretty much a direct swap to the CB750, with a longer steering stem installed into the GSXR lower triple tree.

Also, a great source of local expertise is Rob at Voxonda located at Gemaal 98, 1613 AR Grootebroek, Netherlands
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http://www.voxonda.com/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2:03-01-11&catid=1:latest-news
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 10:36:46 am »
I agree with Vicman, that is beautiful!

I see CB750 Café Racer Fan beat me to the punch - but here is what I was about to post!

Its your bike, so do as you wish.

Maybe look into a front fort conversion to GSXR front end with Cognito Moto's kits.  This way you get super braking, keep the spokes and you can concentrate on engine maintenance and performance issues.  The only drawback is the plastic front GSXR fender that would be plug and play, but you could match the paint yours already - or maybe find a carbon one.

Anyway - just an idea.  As long as you keep her running, its all good.

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 11:48:24 am »
Thanks for the replies! Already feeling welcome!

Man, that is a great looking skoot just as it is!


Thanks Vicman, fell in love with it the moment I saw it! I worked my ass of to get the seller to sell it to me, was already sold full price just as I called him. Still, I'm stubborn and want things my way!  ;)

The 1975-76 CB750F models had spoked wheels and a single front disc brake.  The 1977-78 CB750F modes used Comstar wheels and dual front disc brakes.  (http://www.sohc4.net/cb750f-model-guide/)  It also has what appears to be a CB750K style seat.  The Super Sport seats have a rear cowl. /quote]

It is a modified F series as far as I know, according to the frame number and workshop manual it's a 1977 F. It does have the mounting for a double front disc, but isn't on there. The rear cowl has been removed by the previous owner, along with a shortened rear fender.

[quote You mentioned that the engine is knocking.  You may need to have the camchain adjusted.  Your priorities of improving the handling and braking are a good start.  You should replace the ball bearing in the steering race with roller bearings, and replace the bushings in the swingarm with brass bushings.  Steel braded lines are also a good improvement.  /quote]

Thanks for the heads-up on the cam chain, will have a look for sure. Might also be the ignition, the leads are really #$%*, new coils and leads are one of the priorities.

[quote If you proceed with the front end swap (to a USD fork), there are many threads on this forum to provide guidance.  The most popular swap is to a GSXR front.  It is pretty much a direct swap to the CB750, with a longer steering stem installed into the GSXR lower triple tree. /quote]

This is really good to know, as I've been looking around for different options. My only worry now is finding wheels that match. My plan is to get 5 or 7 spoke 17" cast wheels front and rear. I need to figure out axle dimensions still though.

[quote Also, a great source of local expertise is Rob at Voxonda located at Gemaal 98, 1613 AR Grootebroek, Netherlands
+31 6 11044837
http://www.voxonda.com/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2:03-01-11&catid=1:latest-news
Again, really good information!

Its your bike, so do as you wish.

Maybe look into a front fort conversion to GSXR front end with Cognito Moto's kits.  This way you get super braking, keep the spokes and you can concentrate on engine maintenance and performance issues.  The only drawback is the plastic front GSXR fender that would be plug and play, but you could match the paint yours already - or maybe find a carbon one.

I will definitely have a look into the Cognito Moto's kits. My main focus is riding stability, improved handling and most of all BRAKING!!! Riding in over here is a massive pain with all the traffic. It's like riding in a rolling traffic jam doing a 100 kph, cars all around maybe a car length away. My brakes get a good workout every time I ride!
I like the cast wheels for looks, but maybe with the forks on I will leave the spokes on. They're in really good condition!

Also, when the time comes I'll be selling the original front end as a whole or parts. It has the original calliper, rotor (drilled) and reconditioned forks. If anyone wants these, I can ship worldwide at buyer's cost.

Thanks for all the input guys! Already helped me a lot!
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1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
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1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2014, 12:17:01 pm »
Just to let you know about the Cognito Moto front wheel conversion:  it will require you to relace your front wheel with their hub. 

You could have spacers machined to your existing front wheel for use with a GSXR fork, BUT this will require some precision machining and adapting the Honda's 6 bolt brake disc pattern to a five bolt GSXR pattern. 

Without machining, you will need to either re-lace a new front wheel, using a new hub, OR use a cast modern wheel in its place.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2014, 12:49:48 pm »
You really know your stuff eh!  :D

I'm having a look at yout CB750K2 Bionic Mongrol and browsed through your K7 build.

They both look amazing! I hope to come anything close to what you have got and I'll be a happy man!
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2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
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1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 12:59:07 pm »
Very nice bike! Love the black engine with chrome covers. Also really like the exhaust, lines look really good. Will be following this one.

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 01:38:36 pm »
In the UK that would be an F1. The footrest hanger gives it away. The engine is either later F2, or earlier lump painted black. Looks like the standard seat, but it's lost the tail in favour of a mudguard (alright, fender) conversion. Each to his own, but I like it as it is. If it were mine, I'd be wanting to sort the engine first. Nice find!
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 01:44:52 pm »
Spokes look great, but cast wheel have the advantage of lightness and the ability to run tubeless tires. On a commuter bike tubeless is a huge advantage as it allows you to fix a flat easily without having to pull the wheel and tire.
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 01:55:57 pm »
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 04:37:01 am »
Nice bike as is already!
I'm searching for a laced rear wheel from a cb750F. So if you are willing to sell, give me a shout. I'm in Amsterdam aswell btw.
Regarding the USD fork. I'm using a cbr600rr fork. Straight swap in the CB frame without modifing stems or anything. I've used the same fork already in a cx500. Works great!
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 06:28:24 am »
Nice bike as is already!
I'm searching for a laced rear wheel from a cb750F. So if you are willing to sell, give me a shout. I'm in Amsterdam aswell btw.
Regarding the USD fork. I'm using a cbr600rr fork. Straight swap in the CB frame without modifing stems or anything. I've used the same fork already in a cx500. Works great!

Thanks for the info, I might go there as well, with the CBR600RR front end, but I'm still looking to get cast wheels. If I do, the rear wheel is yours, what were you looking for in price? It's the disc version, do you want the calliper and master cylinder as well? Whereabouts in Amsterdam are you? I used to live there, now in Driebergen, but work in Amsterdam still.
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1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2014, 06:34:14 am »
Does anyone have any info on a swap with a ZX6R front end? I've found a set with matching wheels for around $1100,- exc. shipping and customs. Might get a better price when I get both.
This is everything:
Front forks (triples, clip-ons, master cylinder)
Callipers (front and rear)
Rotors (front and rear)
Front wheel
Rear wheel

This saves me a ton of searching for matching parts, but I need to fit the rear wheel into the CB750F swing arm and the front end to the frame and that's where I need your help.

Is the front end a steering stem swap like the GSXR?

I've seen the ZX6R wheel in a CB750 with what looks to be the original swing arm, it doesn't have a rotor or calliper on though.
No go with those on? I need a rear brake of course, besides the legal reasons, brakes are very important here. We don't have the straight roads as far as the eye can see, more a constant game of 'try to find a straight bit'.

http://www.2040motos.com/Honda/CB/custom-honda-cb750f-super-sport-cafe-racer-34600/

Anyone has any clues?
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Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 01:16:30 pm »
It's been a while since I updated this, as I haven't ordered that many parts because of research.

I have ordered a set of wheel with rotors from an 05-06 ZX-6R for $500,- exc. s/h and customs. I know it's a lot, but given my timeframe I needed these. Also, they are the best looking set I could find, which saves me a repaint. With the forks falling through, I could've waited though...sucks but that's life.

I'm on the fence on what to do for shocks though:

I can get a set of ZX-6R legs for 112,-, with a triple bottom for 29,- and still looking for a triple top. This needs the stem milled or replaced, it's a hollow alu tube, which I don't trust milled down with our riding conditions here. Tons of braking with all the traffic moving around.

My other option is a GSXR 1000/600 front end, which will be a little bit more expensive, but I know is a more tried and trusted method. Problem is I have to get the front wheel to fit. I know the front axle diameter is the same (25mm), but not sure about the width.

The second reason I might go for the GSXR is that Shaun, the guy I got the info for the ZX-6R swap off, had to rework the tank for clearance, which I don't want to do. Is anyone running GSXR front shocks with a standard F or even K series tank?

I can have anything made pretty much, I work at a trade school as a PhysEd teacher, so I've got both a garage and metal workshop I can get stuff done. They have no real expertise motorcycles or in any of the things I want to do, but if I ask them to make this or that, it'll be done.

What are your thoughts on all this?
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Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 12:14:43 pm »
Quick update:

The ZX6R wheels fell through due to shipping...at first it was all good, but then USPS wanted $120 for the front rim and towards $200 for the rear.
Unfortunately everything gets ridden into the ground around here, so there isn't that many spares going around.

I've found a set of CBR600 F2 wheels, that I might get and Frankenstein a set of 300mm rotors onto and fit them into a CBR600/750/1000 set of forks (whichever is cheapest and nice).

Anyone have any suggestions on cast 5 (or more) spoke wheels that fit into the stock swing arm?

This will set me back a bit time wise, since it's pretty much back to the drawing board this way.
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Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 02:03:25 pm »
Most of the GSXR, ZX, CBR front ends have a 30-35mm offset on the triple clamps, therefore the fork legs will hit the tank on full lock, you either have to modify the steering stops or get 50-60mm offset triple clamps made up....  I'm doing the later, you get better handling using the correct geometry....
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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2014, 10:21:45 am »
After being delayed for over a month, due to work and parts having to come in, I've finally started this project!

I'm working out of Tin Can Customs in Amsterdam, run by Chris, who specialises in CB750 conversions to hard tails and bobbers. I'll be doing something very different, but he's digging it so far.

It all started off with this bad boy:

It turns out I've got a 77 F1 frame with a 78 F2 engine, this information is courtesy of David Silver Spares. They know their stuff!

The first parts came in:

I found a set of wheels from the ZX6R I wanted, after the set from the US fell through. The front wheel sold 1 minute before I clicked buy...
The black wheel is an ER-6 wheel, which is supposed to be the same. To be sure it all fits in one go, I went back online. After more searching, I found a set that had only been used to race, so no damage! The gold callipers go with the shocks (not in the pic..). I also get a set of ZX6R controls, since I wanted an upgrade. Also a ZX6R push/pull throttle. The 2013 ER-6 wheel with under 500 miles on it is for sale, if anyone wants it.3

I'm going to put new coils on, since the ones on there are done for. I needed info on my ignition and Mike from Z1 Enterprises has been a saviour! Not only did he find the exact model, but also the manufacturers website. I will need a set of 5 Ohm to not drain the battery.



I started to take everything apart, marking all the wiring as I want to save as much of it as possible. A new wiring loom will cost me $90,- which I can definitely use for other parts.
Disassembly has been fairly easy, since the PO took good care of this bike.

All the big parts gone:


Front end gone:

All of the original parts coming off will be for sale. Front wheel, front and rear brake, callipers, master cylinders, complete front forks in good condition, probably the rear swing arm, seat pan.

Rear wheel taken out:

The horizontal line is what will be my marker for this build, I want it sitting like that.

This is the rough mock up:

The wheel is WAY to big for the swing-arm, it's a 5,5 rear!  ;D I can't widen it, as it isn't a tubular swing-arm, but two halves that have been welded(?) together. I found an '04 swing-arm cheap and need to contact the Kawa dealer here to see if that will fit the frame. I really hope so!!

Most of the GSXR, ZX, CBR front ends have a 30-35mm offset on the triple clamps, therefore the fork legs will hit the tank on full lock, you either have to modify the steering stops or get 50-60mm offset triple clamps made up....  I'm doing the later, you get better handling using the correct geometry....

I will go down this path as well. This will be my daily driver, as my other bike is a car which is a camper van.  ;) I really want it to be a comfortable ride, that doesn't get nervous at high speed or won't turn at all. Thanks for the info Retro Rocket, makes life a lot easier! Jeffer mentioned he could get this done, I just need to get in contact with him and get a quote.

The tank will get a custom paintjob and I will sort out a custom seat, both of them will be done by friends of mine. The tank will be a matt really dark grey, to match the wheels (might powder coat them later on), with a big colourful graphic. Side-covers and fenders to match.
The frame will stay gloss black, I don't have the funds to powdercoat it for now. Spray paint for the win! (or for the cheap in this case)

The rear sub frame will be closed up by a hoop that is angled up slightly to match the height of the back of the tank.

Front and rear fenders are something I need to work out still, I need some rubber on those rims first, after I get the swing-arm sorted out!

The bars will be enduro/off road type 1" bars, because the shocks and triple with be massive, a normal 7/8" bar will look tiny. Problem is, the controls and throttle I bought? Yep, you guessed it: 7/8". So, more parts to be ordered!

Next week I'll open up the engine to work on reliability. Right now the camshaft chain sounds like it's whipping around in there, hope I don't need to change it and have to open up the entire engine.
When I last rode it, it was very low on power and producing a ton of smoke. It sounded a bit off as well. I've been riding it pretty hard the last few months, might've overdone it!

What are the experiences with an 836 or even a 915cc kit in terms of reliability, economy, effects on riding and so on? I'm keen for some extra power, but I don't want to do 11 mpg.

If anyone has any tips, pointers or other feedback, I'm open to everything! So far I've been getting great tips, so don't hold back.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2014, 12:25:42 pm by InAquaVeritas »
Surf bum trying his hand at wrenching!

Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 04:48:37 pm »
You shouldn't have a any reliability issues with an 836 kit even the higher compression Wiseco kit. But to get the most gain you will want to port your head.

There is no replacement for displacement.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2014, 12:34:09 pm »
All parts that are taken off are for sale, with the exception of the tank, fenders and exhaust. See my post in the sales section!

There is no replacement for displacement.
Very wise words!
Anyone has info on fuel consumption with an 836 or 915 kit?

I'm going to order an '04 ZX6R rear swing arm because the original is too narrow and I can't customise it as it's two halves welded together. The new swinger allows me to customise it to have a twin shock set-up. Fortunately I only need some spacer to make it all fit, IF it fits in the frame...

Pulled the wiring loom, will check all the wiring and start to modify the lay-out so I can make it disappear.

Opened the head om my bike, which was quite a shock and reality check. It's all good in there, just never opened up a SOHC before. All 2-stroke and small displacement bikes before. So happy with the mechanic running the shop helping me out!!

So far so good! More pics coming when I get some work done!
Surf bum trying his hand at wrenching!

Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2014, 11:47:38 am »
Finally an update to the project!

Had a very busy few weeks, but the perks of being a teacher sometimes show: 2 weeks off! Got a bunch of stuff done, still not where I want to be, but that's normal for working on a project like this.

I got started on de-tabbing the frame as much as I needed it. There's a few really bad grinds, I was using a 1000 watt angle grinder and you could probably brake into Fort Knox with the thing!

I'm leaving a few of them on, because I will retain the side covers to hide the oil tank, electronics and a compartment to store a big lock. This will be a daily driver, so I need to be able to lock to something.

I chopped the rear sub frame to make room for an angled hoop.


This is the size of the rear rim I'll be using, it's a 5 or 5,5. The front is a 3,5. It will get a 150 rear and 120 front I think. Make it look 50/50 for tire wall and width.


The old races that were in there with new bearings. There was a lot of play on them when I rode it. Riding off a curb was a big CLUNK with the bars noticeably moving. Turns out they weren't tempered steel, so probably worn down or the PO messed up his measurements if he made them himself.


The tank will be a very dark graphite matte with a gloss graphic on there. I've sanded the tank down, needs a wet sand still, but the bottom has some surface rust. So I'll need to get rid of that before I can paint it. The side covers will be the same colour, as will the fenders.
The frame will be gloss black, the engine gloss black (maybe same as tank, not sure yet) with the edges of the fins showing aluminium.
The wheels will be their original colour, a fairly light grey, as I don't have the funds to get those done right now.
The rear swing arm will be gloss black as well. 


Here's a full mock up of the bike.


The rear hoop will be a bit further back and follow the line of the upright supporting the sub frame. The original passenger mounts are still there, but I found a good replacement today, so they will go. As will the original rider pegs and the brake pedal.
I'm working on a seat pan, but the hoop needs to be in to complete that. A friend will upholster it for me if she's got time.

The new fork will be held on by a custom triple which I have pre-ordered. I've just been really dumb and sold my old fork and swing arm, before I measured the thing. For trail and rake I need these measurements. Does any know the offset for a 1977 F1 and the length of the swingarm? Once I have these I can get it made and make it a rolling frame. The triples will be the same colour as the tank.

The new swing arm pretty much fits in no problem, all I need to get is special bushings to make the original pivot axle fit (the frame side). This was I can retain the original swing arm bearings and the original axle in case I ever need to change anything over.
I need to get a pair of tabs welded on, it's an aluminium swing arm, to mount the rear springs. I might get a set of Hagon shocks made, but I need to check if there's another €200,- stuck in the couch somewhere...if not I'll use the set I have, they're Koni and pretty good still.

The exhaust will be sandblasted as it pretty pitted and rusted. The pipes will be wrapped, so I just need to make the muffler look good and that's the best condition of the whole exhaust. Lucky me!

I've ordered a bunch of smalls like new battery, indicators, new brake light and more. There's still a bunch of smalls to be ordered, but I need to wait till the 1st of May to put it on next months credit card bill!  ;D 8)

I've dropped the whole engine overhaul, just working on reliability for now. So no performance parts, this will be done next winter hopefully.

There's one more question I want to put out there: what's the best brand for a customisable wiring loom with switch/fuse box? Jeffr from the forum showed me one, but it's no longer available. The reason I want a new one, is because I will ride this daily and it needs to start and go. No time for electrical problems from 37 year old wiring.

More pictures to follow soon!
Surf bum trying his hand at wrenching!

Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2014, 12:06:53 pm »
Finally an update to the project!

Had a very busy few weeks, but the perks of being a teacher sometimes show: 2 weeks off! Got a bunch of stuff done, still not where I want to be, but that's normal for working on a project like this.

I got started on de-tabbing the frame as much as I needed it. There's a few really bad grinds, I was using a 1000 watt angle grinder and you could probably brake into Fort Knox with the thing!

I'm leaving a few of them on, because I will retain the side covers to hide the oil tank, electronics and a compartment to store a big lock. This will be a daily driver, so I need to be able to lock to something.

I chopped the rear sub frame to make room for an angled hoop.


This is the size of the rear rim I'll be using, it's a 5 or 5,5. The front is a 3,5. It will get a 150 rear and 120 front I think. Make it look 50/50 for tire wall and width.


The old races that were in there with new bearings. There was a lot of play on them when I rode it. Riding off a curb was a big CLUNK with the bars noticeably moving. Turns out they weren't tempered steel, so probably worn down or the PO messed up his measurements if he made them himself.


The tank will be a very dark graphite matte with a gloss graphic on there. I've sanded the tank down, needs a wet sand still, but the bottom has some surface rust. So I'll need to get rid of that before I can paint it. The side covers will be the same colour, as will the fenders.
The frame will be gloss black, the engine gloss black (maybe same as tank, not sure yet) with the edges of the fins showing aluminium.
The wheels will be their original colour, a fairly light grey, as I don't have the funds to get those done right now.
The rear swing arm will be gloss black as well. 


Here's a full mock up of the bike.


The rear hoop will be a bit further back and follow the line of the upright supporting the sub frame. The original passenger mounts are still there, but I found a good replacement today, so they will go. As will the original rider pegs and the brake pedal.
I'm working on a seat pan, but the hoop needs to be in to complete that. A friend will upholster it for me if she's got time.

The new fork will be held on by a custom triple which I have pre-ordered. I've just been really dumb and sold my old fork and swing arm, before I measured the thing. For trail and rake I need these measurements. Does any know the offset for a 1977 F1 and the length of the swingarm? Once I have these I can get it made and make it a rolling frame. The triples will be the same colour as the tank.

The new swing arm pretty much fits in no problem, all I need to get is special bushings to make the original pivot axle fit (the frame side). This was I can retain the original swing arm bearings and the original axle in case I ever need to change anything over.
I need to get a pair of tabs welded on, it's an aluminium swing arm, to mount the rear springs. I might get a set of Hagon shocks made, but I need to check if there's another €200,- stuck in the couch somewhere...if not I'll use the set I have, they're Koni and pretty good still.

The exhaust will be sandblasted as it pretty pitted and rusted. The pipes will be wrapped, so I just need to make the muffler look good and that's the best condition of the whole exhaust. Lucky me!

I've ordered a bunch of smalls like new battery, indicators, new brake light and more. There's still a bunch of smalls to be ordered, but I need to wait till the 1st of May to put it on next months credit card bill!  ;D 8)

I've dropped the whole engine overhaul, just working on reliability for now. So no performance parts, this will be done next winter hopefully.

There's one more question I want to put out there: what's the best brand for a customisable wiring loom with switch/fuse box? Jeffr from the forum showed me one, but it's no longer available. The reason I want a new one, is because I will ride this daily and it needs to start and go. No time for electrical problems from 37 year old wiring.

More pictures to follow soon!
Surf bum trying his hand at wrenching!

Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2014, 12:18:57 pm »
Looks like the project is moving along.  Looking at the mock-up, you will likely need longer than stock shocks.  As it looks right now, the shocks look too short to provide proper travel of the rear swingarm. I you haven't done so, you might want to consult a decent suspension tuner and get their advice on placement of the shock mounts on the swingarm and length of the shocks.  You may want to wait until you have the front mounted with your custom trees to do this. 
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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2014, 12:37:12 pm »
Good point! The shocks might make it, but I won't know for sure until the front and rear are fully mounted. This swing arm is a bit longer than an F arm, so it needs to be further back.
I'm getting the triples and spacers made by a guy who makes racing bikes and does tons of CNC work. When I get it all mounted up, I'll have him look at it.
Thanks for the heads up!


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Surf bum trying his hand at wrenching!

Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3

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Re: CB750 Streettracker/Bratstyle conversion
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2014, 12:39:05 pm »
There is a bit more progress on the bike finally! I haven't been able to work on it for the last few weeks, as work was super hectic!!

I made a quick mock up for the seat I want to make. Before I could finalise this, I needed the dimension for the rake and trail.
There was the possibility I might had to get the swing arm shortened, but after a ton of math by the CNC and race bike building expert, he told me it is fine like this. Taking into account the wheel size (both 17"), the shorter shocks and the longer swing arm this apparently is all good.
I want to have the rear hoop end right over the rear axle and the angle the same as the left upright for the triangle the side covers sit in.


Since this will be a daily driver, I want an electric starter and all electrics working (including indicators), so I'm making an electrical box under the seat. It wil also have space to carry a big chain lock, as I want it locked to something overnight and carrying in my backpack is a pain in the ass.




I wanted a maintenance free battery to avoid troubles, so I got a Ballistic battery. Heaps expensive, but super light and mountable in every position you'd like.


The steering would make a loud CLUNK if I rode of a curb at low speed, like it fell down into the races. Now that it was all out and I could really get a look at the thing, I found out the races weren't hardened steel and too small. Getting them out was a pain. The bottom was fine, the top was sitting over the little edge that inside the head. Ended up welding a big washer to it and hammered it out. New bearings are already in!


On of my biggest worries was the rear swing arm. Once I found out the wheel didn't fit the original, I had to go out and find a replacement. The '04 ZX6R swing arm is the most basic but I couldn't find any dimensions on it. I found one at the dealer with the right swing arm and did a 'measurement' on it, to see if it would fit the frame at all. I looked like it would, so I ordered it. It was only €40,-! (about $50,-), so worth the risk.
Once I got it in, I realised the rear axle of the '04 is longer and I already had an '05 axle...so an '04 axle is on it's way.
The pivot side fits like a glove fortunately! The problem was the swing arm axle, which was twice the thickness of the original. Opening up the frame would be a massive pain, closing up the swing arm was a better option. The CNC guy I work with came up with the best solution as one side is a needle bearing, the other a regular ball bearing: he openend up the new axle (which was hollow) and fitted the original in there. He used the excess axle as a spacer and dust cap. Brilliant! He also made me a set of new spacers, one need to be taken down to accommodate the rear break mount.
Both axles:


Old in new:

Regular bearing:

Needle bearing:

Spacer 1:

Spacer 2 (note the brand new sprocket I got with the wheel for free, free is fantastic!)


I finally got the putting the engine on a mount to start work on it. I opened up the head before and noticed a lot of adjustments that were out, which would cause the problems I've been having. So I hope a tune up will fix most of it. I will replace the cam chain, as it was hitting the block.
I don't have the time to split the block all the way and have a look at the gearbox, because third gear slips out when I pull away with high rev's. My clutch plates are done for, so that might be part of the problem. It only happens at high rev's and relatively low speeds. I know this is a "common" problem with the CB750, but it will need fixing when I got to 836/900 cc's.


I took a full day to completely clean out my carbs. They were in really good condition inside still, so it was mainly dirt and grime that was caked on the outsides.

Clean as a whistle:


I went to work on my exhaust and tank, to prep them for paint. The bottom of the tank was really filthy and had some rust. Because of the shape of the tunnel there was no way I could get to it all without sandblasting it. My exhaust was pretty rusted and really pitted, so de-rusting it by hand would've taken me days. So I went to the blasters and had them both cleaned.
The exhaust still has some rust colour on it, it was in my car for 3 days as I didn't get a chance to paint it yet. The tank was perfect fortunately! No big dents or things like that, I did find a small one today after paint, but it's very minor.

The original plan for a paint job has been put on hold for now. The original plan was a matte dark grey base with a high gloss paint job, but the combo of matte and gloss 2k paint is a pain, possible but a pain. So for now, just a matte dark grey tank, side covers and fenders.
The exhaust matches the wheels, which is a silver grey finish. When it gets it's full paint job the wheels and exhaust will get matching colours to the rest of the tins.


First layer of primer:


Since it was the first layer and I couldn't be bothered cleaning out the barn to make room for an improvised spray booth, I hung it all in a tree and got to work. There was no wind today, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get this done.

This is the first layer of paint. I used a roller, I know I know!, as this will be temporary and I didn't want to mix paint 4 or 5 times for a gun (I don't have my fenders and side covers yet). This layer will be wet sanded, another layer, more wet sand and a matte 2k finish.



Next week I will start on the block and hopefully finish it. The triples are being made, the hoop will be welded on and the electrics need to be sorted. I'm getting there finally!

There is a bit of a rush now. In my spare time I'm a surf instructor and I work at a camp in Spain as well. I will leave the 28th of June till mid/end september, so I want this finished before I leave and bring it with me. Just need to figure out how to shoehorn this into a Volkswagen T3 camper (with full interior), with about 6 surfboards and space to sleep. I might bring a trailer, but it's such a pain always!

Anyone has any tips on any of this, I'm always open to suggestions and tips!
« Last Edit: May 25, 2014, 12:49:51 pm by InAquaVeritas »
Surf bum trying his hand at wrenching!

Past "bikes" ;)
1981 Honda MT 50cc - Torn apart, put back together and got run down on..
1994 Derby Senda R 50cc - Fell apart
2001 Derby Senda R 50cc - 13/45 changed to 15/70, hit 90 kph in under 150 meters! Undriveable fun!
1987 Suzuki GN250 - Sold
Current bikes
1977 Honda CB750 F1 - F2 engine, '05 ZX6R front end and wheels, '04 ZX6R shortened swing arm converted to twin shock. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133411.0
1987 Honda XR600 Supermoto conversion. CR250 forks and triple. SM wheels, discs front and back. Rebuilt engine. Loudest exhaust in the world: Leovinci X3