Author Topic: Library or Forum? (Read 6177 times)

pamcopete · « **on:** January 25, 2014, 04:05:45 AM »

I think that the admonition to potential new members to look before asking a question that may have already been answered is intimidating. Having a potential new member ask a question that has already been answered somewhere in the catacombs of the site provides an opportunity to welcome the new member and make him feel at home. So, is the site a sterile library $:-\$ or a place where CB750 owners can come and join the party?

70CB750 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 25, 2014, 04:23:01 AM »

I say the second, many people just show up once and ask one question to never come back - and they are always treated well here.

Stev-o · « **Reply #2 on:** January 25, 2014, 05:56:55 AM »

Quote from: 70CB750 on January 25, 2014, 04:23:01 AM

- and they are always treated well here.

Not always. Recently a newbie asked a fairly simple question and one response was "next time, get off your ass and look for it".

WTF? I couldn't believe it.

honda_dog · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2014, 05:58:43 AM »

I've been treated well, here.

Except from Stev-o.......lol!

70CB750 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2014, 06:05:45 AM »

What? Shocking. I think I need a hug

calj737 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2014, 06:10:37 AM »

+100 Stev-o. But that particular member, is always truculent to posts. If your put off by a post, don't read it, I say. You have no obligation to respond, and do have an obligation to respond politely if you post. My opinion.

Many folks find this forum and don't know it's hidden secrets. Maybe the FAQ should be more prominent, but then again, it turns it from a community to a library. I like the community aspect. I'm as guilty as anyone of posting a quick "help" because it's not always clear from manuals or posts what the right way is, or perhaps, there are greater insights from experience.

It's a case of Wisdom versus Knowledge. Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit a salad.

Long live the forum!

Pecantree · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2014, 08:18:27 AM »

Quote from: Stev-o on January 25, 2014, 05:56:55 AM

Quote from: 70CB750 on January 25, 2014, 04:23:01 AM
- and they are always treated well here.

Not always. Recently a newbie asked a fairly simple question and one response was "next time, get off your ass and look for it".

WTF? I couldn't believe it.

But Stev-O, everybody was nice to you the next day!

But gentle ribbing aside, I like that this is a civil discourse. It's unusual for the internet.
PS:If a tomato is a fruit does that mean ketchup is a smoothe?

dhall57 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2014, 08:51:35 AM »

Quote from: Stev-o on January 25, 2014, 05:56:55 AM

Quote from: 70CB750 on January 25, 2014, 04:23:01 AM
- and they are always treated well here.
I saw that to Stev-o. IMO that was uncalled for. Everyone is a rookie here at one time or another. Heck Stev-o even with your almost 15,000 post your were a greenhorn back in 2009.
The only thing that bothers me at times are people with there first and only post coming here and promoting and talking up their business or trying to made some quick cash by pedaling off a few parts they have stumbled across somewhere.

Not always. Recently a newbie asked a fairly simple question and one response was "next time, get off your ass and look for it".

WTF? I couldn't believe it.

BobbyR · « **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2014, 09:06:39 AM »

I think this is both. I was when it was only an email list. When I want to see how something is done I do search. A lot of guys have posted "how to" posts with pictures and narrative. These are very helpful. You will also find that there many be more than one approach and you find one that both fits your need and skill level.

I have been to forums for other vehicles and they are really crap many times. Yes we have some people that tend to be high handed when giving and answer, but their information is valid.

Pete, it was a forum that over time has amassed a Library of knowledge over time. When my Dyna was crapping out I found it was common. I also found the Pamco and bought one, and it works well.

martin99 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2014, 11:41:44 AM »

It's true that some members can be high and mighty, and short, abrupt and downright rude responses would I imagine put a newcomer off. It's a shame when those new members don't realise that post-count doesn't necessarily equate to knowledge and experience, or even a helpful attitude. But if they hung around for long enough they'd be able to recognise the good guys (who are by far the majority) and disregard the others.

I belong to several bike forums, but this is by far the most addictive. We should all be very proud of what we have here. A vast library of knowledge, and genuine experienced folk always willing to help out if they can. It is, I believe, on the whole an extremely welcoming community. I am embarrassed when new members are treated with sarcasm and contempt, fortunately it doesn't happen often. With a membership this large, you're bound to get the odd prick now and then.

LesterPiglet · « **Reply #10 on:** January 25, 2014, 12:02:41 PM »

I was treated like an imbecile for my first few posts (and still am)by a knowledgable old timer. Thankfully my needs were great and I brushed it off. That same old timer hasn't changed at all but I tend to not respond to his curtness.

kghost · « **Reply #11 on:** January 25, 2014, 12:11:43 PM »

This has been answered before.....did you even search?

I kid...

Was it an oil question?

754 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 25, 2014, 01:21:16 PM »

OTto kghost
Hey an Alaska. Airliner sucked an eagle into an engine the other day..leaving YLW.. Had to return. For full inspection..

dave500 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 25, 2014, 01:47:50 PM »

some new comers just expect an answer without introducing themselves and as 70cb750 said just dissapear again,if theyve asked a poorly constructed or unclear question on the first or second post that also makes it harder to resist a bit of skylarking?once it all settles down and its clear what the question is it gets answered properly,its a great resource once youve passed the initiation!some turn out to be non hackers though?

martin99 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:08:24 PM »

Yes I do agree Dave, it does piss me off when they don't come back to let you know how they got on.

Stev-o · « **Reply #15 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:11:19 PM »

Quote from: dave500 on January 25, 2014, 01:47:50 PM

if theyve asked a poorly constructed or unclear question on the first or second post that also makes it harder to resist a bit of skylarking?

I like to sometimes give a dumb answer to a dumb question, eh Dave?!

Bailgang · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:18:39 PM »

I don't know if it's just me but I find the google "custom search" not nearly as good as the original search engine this sight had. I don't know what happened to it or why it can't be repaired but I thought it worked a lot better than the google option. I agree that someone should check out previous posts but it's real easy to get lost because there is so much info available. I've asked questions that have already been asked numerous times but it was mainly because I was in a hurry an wanted an answer asap and fortunately I was treated well by those that responded.

kghost · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:28:48 PM »

Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:18:39 PM

I don't know if it's just me but I find the google "custom search" not nearly as good as the original search engine this sight had. I don't know what happened to it or why it can't be repaired but I thought it worked a lot better than the google option. I agree that someone should check out previous posts but it's real easy to get lost because there is so much info available. I've asked questions that have already been asked numerous times but it was mainly because I was in a hurry an wanted an answer asap and fortunately I was treated well by those that responded.

Ummm......last I checked the search still worked.......

Bailgang · « **Reply #18 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:36:28 PM »

Quote from: kghost on January 25, 2014, 02:28:48 PM

Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:18:39 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I find the google "custom search" not nearly as good as the original search engine this sight had. I don't know what happened to it or why it can't be repaired but I thought it worked a lot better than the google option. I agree that someone should check out previous posts but it's real easy to get lost because there is so much info available. I've asked questions that have already been asked numerous times but it was mainly because I was in a hurry an wanted an answer asap and fortunately I was treated well by those that responded.

Ummm......last I checked the search still worked.......

The one on the upper right of the page? Not working for me and hasn't for quite a while.

Bailgang · « **Reply #19 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:39:40 PM »

Well I'll be da...ed, it didn't work a min ago when I dbl checked but now it does. WTH?

Stev-o · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:40:20 PM »

Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:36:28 PM

Quote from: kghost on January 25, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:18:39 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I find the google "custom search" not nearly as good as the original search engine this sight had. I don't know what happened to it or why it can't be repaired but I thought it worked a lot better than the google option. I agree that someone should check out previous posts but it's real easy to get lost because there is so much info available. I've asked questions that have already been asked numerous times but it was mainly because I was in a hurry an wanted an answer asap and fortunately I was treated well by those that responded.

Ummm......last I checked the search still worked.......

The one on the upper right of the page?

"Google custom search" is on the left and works fine for me too.

LesterPiglet · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:41:22 PM »

Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:36:28 PM

Quote from: kghost on January 25, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:18:39 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I find the google "custom search" not nearly as good as the original search engine this sight had. I don't know what happened to it or why it can't be repaired but I thought it worked a lot better than the google option. I agree that someone should check out previous posts but it's real easy to get lost because there is so much info available. I've asked questions that have already been asked numerous times but it was mainly because I was in a hurry an wanted an answer asap and fortunately I was treated well by those that responded.

Ummm......last I checked the search still worked.......

The one on the upper right of the page? Not working for me and hasn't for quite a while.

It doesn't and hasn't worked for me for a long time. It was great.

Bailgang · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2014, 02:45:09 PM »

Ok this is weird, a bit ago it didn't work then it did now it doesn't.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2014, 03:05:41 PM »

I helped a newby out recently that had been given a short answer by someone after a simple question, i simply posted a link to what he was seeking and received a very warm and welcome PM....

kghost · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2014, 10:45:51 PM »

Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:36:28 PM

Quote from: kghost on January 25, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: Bailgang on January 25, 2014, 02:18:39 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I find the google "custom search" not nearly as good as the original search engine this sight had. I don't know what happened to it or why it can't be repaired but I thought it worked a lot better than the google option. I agree that someone should check out previous posts but it's real easy to get lost because there is so much info available. I've asked questions that have already been asked numerous times but it was mainly because I was in a hurry an wanted an answer asap and fortunately I was treated well by those that responded.

Ummm......last I checked the search still worked.......

The one on the upper right of the page? Not working for me and hasn't for quite a while.

Right below your profile picture it says:

SOHC/4 website Home Help Search....................................

Click on search

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Author Topic: Library or Forum? (Read 6177 times)