Author Topic: Bill's Stroker Build VII (Read 26238 times)

bear · « **Reply #150 on:** February 24, 2014, 09:06:20 PM »

"I don't mean to be hijacking Billy's thread but is Brent Hyde related to the NZ Vince & Hyde Racing Team?"

Yes Keith he is.
I will PM his email for you.

Cheers,
Brian

dragracer · « **Reply #151 on:** February 24, 2014, 10:02:28 PM »

Bill, i always try to pull the sump before i even think about turning a motor over. Its the law of gravity my friend- oh yeah, and Murphys law too.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #152 on:** February 25, 2014, 12:07:16 AM »

Bill, what that 'blue stuff'?

Hummel · « **Reply #153 on:** February 25, 2014, 03:22:53 AM »

Very exiting tear down. Love to find rare parts inside old engines.

About the rocker arms shaft I have a question. Wouldn't the center bolt be enough to secure the shaft ? This will also allow the shaft to turn around giving less friction. I think I had read this in Hondamans book somewhere? Please correct me if I'm wrong .

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #154 on:** February 25, 2014, 03:56:33 AM »

Jerry, " blue stuff " silicone seal....real popular for a while, then they became 2 cylinder 750's, well some of them, that stuff plugged many an oil orifice/ hole! Hummel, that's correct, early model towers and shafts not drilled. Yes, it is exciting, as you can see this ones been rode hard and put away wet!!

Bill Frank, yes should have said pull sump, then turn engine over, Issac's proud!

On that note, I think the owner thought what goes round....must come out!

madmtnmotors · « **Reply #155 on:** February 25, 2014, 03:57:25 AM »

Quote from: Bill/BentON Racing on February 24, 2014, 06:32:45 PM

Never seen the caps marked this way?

I've got a set marked the same way from a 78' CB750F. I'm guessing these markings would be from near the end of the SOHC production? That would mean they're the newest you can get!

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #156 on:** February 25, 2014, 04:01:42 AM »

Wilbur, didn't work on many 77-78's. Bet you're right.

POPS 911 · « **Reply #157 on:** February 25, 2014, 05:35:50 AM »

$TROKER SOHC BILL : With that gear right up next to the motor that motor must have been used on a narrow small tire bike ?? Right ?? Your high dollar part sponsor KEN [ CYCLE X ] has a offset gear for a wide tire you will need to get traction and not rub a hole thru the side wall of a tire and inside of frame down tube. On the OLD KZ'S it was rubbing tire and frame for a GOODYEAR or MT SLICK small tire on wide rim. = offset gear , grinding frame tube and re-welding. I would hope the frame was up-graded with better stronger motor mounts so you would not getting twisting of motor in frame on a pass over 142mph in 1320'. If you ever rode a ZIR factory TURBO 1978 AND SPOOLED IT UP on a freeway and ended up in the next lane because of engine twist and frame shake = you sold that KILLER the next day..... we did !!!!!

POPS BK911

Greg H · « **Reply #158 on:** February 25, 2014, 12:05:36 PM »

Quote from: Bill/BentON Racing on February 24, 2014, 06:32:45 PM

OK,I took some pics before I slide a cam cover on and turn it upside down and pull sump!

Looking good, this old snake been around, if it were a cat, I'd say it's used 3 or 4 lives already!
Never seen the caps marked this way?

other side

Greg H., the starter nut!

I got it,a race bike, we'll just use one bolt to locate rocker arm shafts!

Told you , I knows what this means...#2 decided it didn't want to play anymore!

Two Lives!!

Three Lives!!!

Snakes getting old, but still dangerous!

More, the good side!

The ugly side

Well, that's it for now, off too see if the insides look better!

Thanks for the pic of the starter nut Bill

.I'm going to get an old mate who is a retired toolmaker on the case

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #159 on:** February 25, 2014, 03:21:55 PM »

K. Sam Green, just talked with Gary Pena, after WE, yes plural, me and you race @ Commerce in August, then it's road trip to Jr's first, then Gary, then Atlanta, then Valdosta......then you can go back to playing BINGO!

Might win the lottery end of July( sell MBSC) land!!! If so plan on coming!

He remembered Gordon Kateley and his bike and the 3 Harley's he built next!
Our plan is still for me to get "his" chassis and rest of parts, including record setting engine! K. Said for you to email him, I'll PM you his email, Bill

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #160 on:** February 25, 2014, 08:01:18 PM »

Wait a minute Bill. You gonna be out west in August?! You left out BUB/Bonneville last week of August.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #161 on:** February 26, 2014, 04:08:09 AM »

Jerry , not sure when, but sometime this year, Bill

dragracer · « **Reply #162 on:** February 26, 2014, 09:00:29 PM »

Bill, whats the problem with a few broken fins and weld jobs? Lol.We're trying to go fast, not look good. That scoreboard only list W's and L's, it doesn't know how they got up there and in the end, the W's are all that count. This is after all, a sweep the floor bike. I'm going to say right now, this will likely be your most successful build as far as consistency and rounds won go.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #163 on:** February 27, 2014, 03:13:04 AM »

Hey, I was just showing you my baby's flaws, I still luv her! It looks pretty good inside. Clean, RC or someone's lightened, balanced and polished crank. Automotive style bolts on steel rods, probably RC H/D ones. Bear, no metal or small animals inside(dogs)!

Pistons big, can only see the R, so probably early RC's.Frank, I agree....with your help!

. And all others who have commented, sent parts etc. Thanks, Bill Going to adjust/tune etc. and run it!

LArzFroMArz · « **Reply #164 on:** February 27, 2014, 04:32:22 PM »

"Like"

dragracer · « **Reply #165 on:** February 27, 2014, 06:39:19 PM »

Bill,
I took this one off the wife's bike when we installed the Dyna 4000 SP. It was working fine, just a corner of the mount is broken but there's enough material to use to set it up. I'll get it down to you at some point when you get ready to wire up the bike.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #166 on:** February 27, 2014, 08:57:03 PM »

You da man! Thanks Frank

Jim F · « **Reply #167 on:** February 28, 2014, 05:41:32 AM »

Is that what they call a 2 step box Frank?

dragracer · « **Reply #168 on:** February 28, 2014, 08:13:04 AM »

Quote from: Jim F on February 28, 2014, 05:41:32 AM

Is that what they call a 2 step box Frank?

Yes it is Jim. DRL400 to be exact. But if Bill is using that MSD MC1 box, he can buy a 2 step module to plug into the box to expand it from just being a high side rev limiter to a low side limiter as well. You will need to use plug in chips or get an rpm selector module to plug into the low side limiter. The adjustable module would be best because you need the capability to adjust the low side limiter for the launch "on the fly" to compensate for track conditions. A clutch bike leaves at a much higher rpm than a slider bike. Sometimes if a track is hooking well, you may need to increase the launch rpm to keep from bogging the motor or to get a better 60's to drop the ET. At the same time, if the track is slippery, you will need to reduce the launch rpm to keep the bike from spinning off the hit. Finding that thin line between bogging the motor and spinning the tire is primarily controlled by the low side rev limiter settings. The clutch set up itself is also a factor in terms of the stiffness of the static springs, air gap and the amount of weight on the arms of the lockup- clutch tuning is critical on a bike with either too much power or one with not enough power.

joesmotos · « **Reply #169 on:** February 28, 2014, 07:46:04 PM »

Bills first time at Bonneville ride should he decide to come hang out in my luxurious pit..

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #170 on:** February 28, 2014, 09:37:26 PM »

Tonto get it ready! Have leathers and helmet ..will travel....da Lone Ranger

POPS 911 · « **Reply #171 on:** March 01, 2014, 07:33:56 AM »

As Frank said " spinning off the line can be controlled by RPM'S on motor " but when the LOCKUP comes in [ and stays locked up doing it's job ] spinning, you will continue to spin more = WHAT do you do ? at the track on that day ? asked George Bryce = add weight to the arms to slow lockup down with just a little slip and NO BOG.... right Frank

. These are thing you learn with a PRO-STOCK motor and the down load of a race pack and a laptop at a NHRA NATIONAL EVENT. Did you notice that NASCAR is now LAPTOP racing with the GEEK SQUADS from BEST BUY doing the tuning parameters [ a geek word ] , wrench spinner were done = throw that little thumb jet wrench and box of many main jets away it's a finger swipe on a laptop screen now-a-dayz
Bill : On that COBRA MONSTER frame they cut the side top frame tubes and braces and let only a single rail ? With those thin OEM STAMPED motor mounts and a single backbone rail that will be a twisting monster on the bars and in the air = be very careful with that set up that the COBRA might bite you bad. MSP sold a PRO-MOD COMPLETE 15-18 years ago and the guy made two passes twisting in the air = it still sits in his trucking garage today 5 minutes from my home never back to the track..... after those two passes.
I'll come down to watch you ride the COBRA on the 1320' whole different game than Calendar Girl foot shifting.
POPS BK911 ST/BK NHRA

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #172 on:** March 01, 2014, 08:41:21 AM »

POPS, cool. Email or PM me how to pay you for the 34's, thanks, Bill

MRieck · « **Reply #173 on:** March 01, 2014, 09:36:18 AM »

Quote from: joesmotos on February 28, 2014, 07:46:04 PM

Bills first time at Bonneville ride should he decide to come hang out in my luxurious pit..

Those F4's are nice bikes....did a lot of work on them for roadracing at Loudon.

joesmotos · « **Reply #174 on:** March 01, 2014, 10:57:42 AM »

I think he is scared to hold it wide open for a couple of miles...*L*

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Author Topic: Bill's Stroker Build VII (Read 26238 times)