Topic: snow

[vfourfreak]

Pouring rain in the South of France, so that won't be a great alternative. Need to go further South.

Kev

[MrGardman]

I live in northern Indiana and we are supposed to have 6 to 10 inches starting tonight into tomorrow and Saturday is supposed to bring even worse weather.

Someone....please make it stop!!

What part? I'm in between Lake Michigan and Wolf lake, when the forecast is 2" we see 6+, NEVER fails.

I live just south of South Bend and we did get that snow...bah. I got stuck yesterday just trying to get to work. I pull out of the driveway and STUCK....crossways in the middle of the street. I have to get my wife to push me back  into the driveway. So the snow plows are not on my street yet...so I wait and the garbage truck comes down and makes a path and I follow the path out...only a hour late.

Pretty soon I am going to run out places to put the shoveled snow...LOL

[750cafe]

Whoopty do. This was in MAY last year. Almost as much snow as we REGULARLY got when we lived in Virginia every couple of weeks.
Snow is easy to deal with, the drivers that don't KNOW how to drive in it should just stay home!!!




Eric

[motocyconomad]

wtf is this #$%* doing down here!!!!??

[MoMo]

wtf is this #$%* doing down here!!!!??

It is global warming at its best   Not sure if you remember but back it the late 60s the scientists were predicting the coming ice age.  So which is it? I remember snow in the panhandle of Florida back in the late 60s-odd sight driving along the Gulf with sand dunes on one side and palm trees on the other with snow coming down.  Larry

[demon78]

Living where I do, we get snow and what it boils down to is, if it's bad outside stay home, your all out 800 H.P. 4 by 4 does you #$%* all good in the snow when there is a 40 to 50 mph wind driving wet snow. Here and I'm sure other places the cops can bust you for being on the road and worse your insurance will be voided if it happens, where my daughter lives, they have permanent signs that tell you the road is closed. So suck it up, throw another log on the fire, crack the bottle of Rum you've been saving for a snowy day, call the boss and tell him you'll be in when they plow and mellow out.
If it's decided that you have to go anyhow, it's not worth it, find a new job, they don't value your life enough.
Bill the demon.

[Bob Wessner]

Pretty soon I am going to run out places to put the shoveled snow...LOL

I hear ya! 

[Maurice]

It does get pretty

[knowsnothing]

Pretty soon I am going to run out places to put the shoveled snow...LOL

I hear ya! 

Real men use shovels, none of that pansy snow blower crap....   My back is sore just looking at your pile.

[70CB750]

Real man has a tractor.

[Duke McDukiedook]

Real man shovel snow with bare hands. HA!

[MoMo]

Real men huff and puff and blow the  snow off...

[Retro Rocket]

wtf is this #$%* doing down here!!!!??

It is global warming at its best   Not sure if you remember but back it the late 60s the scientists were predicting the coming ice age.  So which is it? I remember snow in the panhandle of Florida back in the late 60s-odd sight driving along the Gulf with sand dunes on one side and palm trees on the other with snow coming down.  Larry

Climate change Larry, global warming went out with the dirty bath water. Extremes of weather are becoming the norm, we've broken hundreds of climate records in the last 2 years alone in Australia, once upon a time we would break a record every couple of years, now it becoming a regular occurrence....   Snowing in central Texas i hear....

[brooze72]

Living where I do, we get snow and what it boils down to is, if it's bad outside stay home, your all out 800 H.P. 4 by 4 does you #$%* all good in the snow when there is a 40 to 50 mph wind driving wet snow. Here and I'm sure other places the cops can bust you for being on the road and worse your insurance will be voided if it happens, where my daughter lives, they have permanent signs that tell you the road is closed. So suck it up, throw another log on the fire, crack the bottle of Rum you've been saving for a snowy day, call the boss and tell him you'll be in when they plow and mellow out.
If it's decided that you have to go anyhow, it's not worth it, find a new job, they don't value your life enough.
Bill the demon.

+1 Bill, the 4x4s just go farther off the road & deeper in the drift!

[demon78]

Yes hear the volunteer firefighters swear when they have to go rescue a 4 by 4 driver.
Bill the demon.

[Mo]

ionno guys, those 4x4 cherokee with the 20 foot lift kits might get pretty far 

[BobbyR]

I have all wheel drive on all my cars. I lived too many winters with Mustangs, Firebirds and front wheel drive. I know how to drive in the snow, I am just tired of all the crap you need to do to keep going. I can get off the Highways and take the back roads home.

[Mo]

I have all wheel drive on all my cars. I lived too many winters with Mustangs, Firebirds and front wheel drive. I know how to drive in the snow, I am just tired of all the crap you need to do to keep going. I can get off the Highways and take the back roads home.

Got any good tips for starting uphill in 5 inches of snow!?

[BobbyR]

I have all wheel drive on all my cars. I lived too many winters with Mustangs, Firebirds and front wheel drive. I know how to drive in the snow, I am just tired of all the crap you need to do to keep going. I can get off the Highways and take the back roads home.

Got any good tips for starting uphill in 5 inches of snow!?

If you have all wheel drive, turn off the traction control. If yiou have 2 wheel drive, get a running start and keep your foot in it.

If you are stopped in the middle of the hill and starting off, you are SOL. 

[RAFster122s]

That is where real snow tires such as Gislaveds, Hakkalapitas, Pirelli Ice, and Firestone Winterforce shine and really can't be compared to all season anything.
Properly weighting the driven wheels. I learned to drive in snow living in Western NC and in Ohio for nearly 20 years and learned that four snow tires were key to going and stopping in the white and slushy stuff.
I've passed snow plows in northern Ohio because I could go better in front of them than I could following them.

Staying home is the best option when possible but it is not profitable unless you are salaried and they pay you anyway.  Learned when in NC I went to get ice cream and some food during a blizzard that they had announced non-4 wheel drive vehicles were not allowed out and 4x4s had to have chains to be out. Well, I didn't have the radio or TV on and didn't know. So I took the '84 Chevy Chevette (what a POC car) out for food. It had 4 snows and enough sand bags in the trunk for adequate traction.  That blizzard left the road in front of my work's plant like a rutted dirt road for a month because of ice and snow pack. 
I was lucky to not run afoul of the law in my adventures...

David

[demon78]

Yeah you can have great winter tires on but my point when the wind is driving the snow at a about 40 50 mph you can't see, what's the reason for being on the road you're a danger to yourself and any others. Yes I've driven in conditions where you had to flip the wiper blades with your thumb but I was younger and stupider in those days also lucky.
Bill the demon.

[BobbyR]

That is where real snow tires such as Gislaveds, Hakkalapitas, Pirelli Ice, and Firestone Winterforce shine and really can't be compared to all season anything.
Properly weighting the driven wheels. I learned to drive in snow living in Western NC and in Ohio for nearly 20 years and learned that four snow tires were key to going and stopping in the white and slushy stuff.
I've passed snow plows in northern Ohio because I could go better in front of them than I could following them.

Staying home is the best option when possible but it is not profitable unless you are salaried and they pay you anyway.  Learned when in NC I went to get ice cream and some food during a blizzard that they had announced non-4 wheel drive vehicles were not allowed out and 4x4s had to have chains to be out. Well, I didn't have the radio or TV on and didn't know. So I took the '84 Chevy Chevette (what a POC car) out for food. It had 4 snows and enough sand bags in the trunk for adequate traction.  That blizzard left the road in front of my work's plant like a rutted dirt road for a month because of ice and snow pack. 
I was lucky to not run afoul of the law in my adventures...

David

+1 on Gislaveds, I used to use them and they are amazing. We used to put weight in the trunk, but that would make you more likely to spin out.

All my cars have AWD and nothing compares to that. I also tell people don't get arrogant. All cars have 4 wheel brakes, getting going is great, stopping is greater.

+1 on blowing snow. There are times you really should be home sipping your beverage of choice........ until you have to get up and start the freakin snowblower and stand outside for a half an hour.

[RAFster122s]

True, youth and stupidity in some of the things we get away without harm. It is often not the things we can control that bite us. Used to drive Volvo 240s and a little weight in back gave them the added benefit of better control in winter with good snows.  Quattros were incredibly good in snow but I didn't have the money or desire to own one and the tech in today's awd cars is hard to beat for one designed for snow and ice.

As has been pointed out , better to be safe at home than risking life or limb in bad conditions.
Dealing with the time before and after work with snow clearing sucks the will out of you day after day. Was one of the things I hated being plowed in and having to dig out. Then the wear and tear on vehicles from salt and sand and cinders.

[BeSeeingYou]

Living where I do, we get snow and what it boils down to is, if it's bad outside stay home, your all out 800 H.P. 4 by 4 does you #$%* all good in the snow when there is a 40 to 50 mph wind driving wet snow. Here and I'm sure other places the cops can bust you for being on the road and worse your insurance will be voided if it happens, where my daughter lives, they have permanent signs that tell you the road is closed. So suck it up, throw another log on the fire, crack the bottle of Rum you've been saving for a snowy day, call the boss and tell him you'll be in when they plow and mellow out.
If it's decided that you have to go anyhow, it's not worth it, find a new job, they don't value your life enough.
Bill the demon.

I bet you get some awesome "Lake Effect Snow" where you live Bill.  Went for a drive out in the prairie country last weekend to visit relatives and saw drifts as high as six feet that the plows had cleared on the highways.  This was after a six inch snowfall with wind.  We got it in the city too but it doesn't cause nearly the problems.  In the same storm I was out and about traveling unplowed roads and alleys even uphill with no trouble in my FWD Dodge caravan.   It takes about 12 inches or more to really stuff things up here.  I can't recall the last time I got stuck and had to shovel the vehicle out....it was years ago.  We had rear wheel drive cars when we both had the Scorpios till about 6 years ago and even then they weren't that much of a problem.  Maybe got stuck once or twice in the course of the winter...usually backing out our alley that goes slightly uphill to the street.  I had Blizzack snows on the wife's Scorpio and it was better than mine with regular tires.  With FWD I don't bother with snow tires but I do get all season tires with a god rep for snow and ice.  My old dodge will plow through some pretty thick stuff...what with all the tools I carry....it  amazed me last week when I had to get through a snow plow ridge into an uphill unplowed alley with 6 inches on the ground.  I grew up out on the prairie when rear wheel drive was the only choice so I have a good idea of how to deal with it.  Like Bill says, when it's blowing out in the country it's best to stay put.  It's funny but when I do travel in those conditions, without fail the majority of vehicles in the ditch will be 4X4's.  Some of them  think the rules don't apply to them.