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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #125 on: May 18, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »
don't forget some sort of inner rear fender so you are not flinging tons of crap on those pods and finely tuned carbs...that would be fairly pointless
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #126 on: May 18, 2016, 01:51:39 PM »
Shoot. I didn't notice that. That might be a good idea.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #127 on: May 18, 2016, 02:25:32 PM »
Looks great!
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #128 on: May 18, 2016, 06:14:53 PM »
don't forget some sort of inner rear fender so you are not flinging tons of crap on those pods and finely tuned carbs...that would be fairly pointless

 Been running some ideas through my head for a rear hugger.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #129 on: July 08, 2016, 02:53:20 PM »
 Picked up the seat today. Came out nice and the padding made a HUGE difference in how well I actually fit the bike. I was a little concerned that I had built a bike that was too small for me!
 It's smooth vinyl on the side, perforated on top (with a backing) and graphite stitching.



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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2016, 03:16:00 PM »
 And here's what she looks like "done". I say "done" in quotation marks because I'll probably change the mirror and master cylinder.
 I was really trying to not run bar ends because they seem to be on everything these days, but I just can't find a mirror that works with the clip on bars. Sucks, because I kinda like the one that's on there now.
 The master just seems weak. I have a DSS replica on the bench and I know they work great.
 And I'm still kicking around ideas for an inner fender/screen/hugger of some sort.











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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2016, 03:20:06 PM »
 And in case you forgot, this is what I started with two and a half years ago. This bike simply did not exist before I "swept the floor" and put it together. It's built with parts from multiple bikes.





 You've come a long way, baby!  ;D

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2016, 03:20:23 PM »
Scott,

I love the seat upholstery and I (of course) love the bike.  The seat actually has plenty of padding and a bump stop.

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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2016, 03:47:00 PM »
« Last Edit: July 08, 2016, 03:50:56 PM by Scott S »
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #134 on: July 08, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Nice clip, Scott.

Here's an embedded player version:

1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2016, 04:26:12 PM »
Nice clip, Scott.

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 Thanks. I was trying to do that and couldn't get it to work.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #136 on: July 08, 2016, 11:23:04 PM »
we need a flyby video...in the dirt while its raining 8)
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #137 on: July 09, 2016, 03:43:54 AM »
 Refer to post #136: "And I'm still kicking around ideas for an inner fender/screen/hugger of some sort."
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2016, 05:08:16 AM »
 The ride on this bike is way too stiff, bordering on brutal. Smooth roads are OK, but any potholes induce a pucker moment, and frost heaves set it into a bucking motion that blurs my vision.
 It's probably because the springs in the shocks are for a 750, which is at least 100 pounds heavier than this bike, and it's amplified by the clip ons.
 In the rear, the springs have been cut (to lower the 1100F they were on), which only made them worse. That bike, too, is at least 100 pounds heavier than the STF2 bike.
 
 I called Progressive and explained the situation. They recommended their 11-1104 forks springs, which are 19.12" long; about an inch longer than the springs I removed (sorry, didn't take a measurement). They have a spacer that I didn't use and a 35/50 lbs./in. spring rate.
 For the rear, they suggested their 03-1394 springs. They have a 75/120 lbs./in. spring rate and are 9.75" long.
 You can see in this pic that they're much longer than the cut springs. In fact, I could disassemble the shocks without even using a spring compressor!



 The front springs dropped right in. I put a jack under the bike to lift it just enough to relieve a little pressure on the forks and had my Dad steady the bike while I installed the caps.
 On the rear, it took us a couple of tries to figure out the best way to use my new spring compressors without them slipping off, and then we realized we left out a spacer ring after getting the first one back together....DOH!
 The first shock took us 45 minutes. The second one, maybe 15....  8)

 The front feels better but still seems somewhat stiff. I only rode it up and down the street in front of my house (it was 10:30 p.m. by the time we got done). The rear is definitely better. Dad says I actually have some sag when I sit on the bike now. It did raise the rear up a bit, but that makes the bike look better, IMO.
 And in keeping with the "Sweep the Floor" theme, I bough the springs from a friend for $40 and found the shock springs on eBay for $50, so..... Progressive suspension for only $90!



 The only little head scratcher is that I HAD to install the shock springs in this direction. Normally, the writing on the springs is on the bottom. Now they're "upside down". The perch on the lower part of the 1100F shocks is too narrow to install them that way. They would have slipped right over the end. This was the only way they fit and these are the springs that Progressive suggested.
 Does it really matter what direction they're installed?
 (And FYI: I installed the fork springs with the progressive, or tightly wound, section DOWN, at the bottom)



 Plans for today are to swap out the master cylinder for a David Silver Spares unit and then ride later today.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2016, 05:11:56 AM »
 Oh, and ignore my chicken strips. I've only got a little over 200 miles on the bike and the suspension was too scary before.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2016, 12:15:29 PM »
 Swapped on the DSS master cylinder and now I have proper front brakes. I've used this master cylinder on several builds and you just can't beat it for the money. Only a few bucks more than most rebuild kits and, when used with braided lines and a good, rebuilt caliper, that's just about as good as stock brakes get.
 I also installed some vintage EZ-Pull levers. Those levers and the Kerker came with my old 550F, so they'll live on on the STF2 Bike.



 The suspension is way, way better. It sits slightly higher in the rear now and the ride is still firm, but at least it's forgiving now. I can actually feel the suspension working on the road and I'm MUCH more confident on the bike. Potholes and and rough roads no longer induce blurred vision!




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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2016, 01:12:02 PM »
Looking good, Scott!
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2016, 01:31:29 PM »
Scott... Hope you haven't already answered this, but after riding this bike for a bit now, how do you like that bikini fairing? I would be concerned about wind being deflected directly to the chest or helmet. Do you feel it is an improvement or decline compared to no fairing?


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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2016, 01:46:18 PM »
 It doesn't seem to be a problem. I had it up to 90 today and didn't notice any ill effects.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #144 on: August 15, 2016, 05:53:46 AM »
 A few pics from a local bike night last week. The 750 and 350 belong to a couple of my friends.



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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #145 on: January 12, 2024, 11:20:54 AM »
If anyone is still surfing this old forum. The bike has shown back up in Chambersburg pa. And was in rough shape when I got it. I've since rebuilt the engine and currently fixing it slowly

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #146 on: January 12, 2024, 02:10:37 PM »
If anyone is still surfing this old forum. The bike has shown back up in Chambersburg pa. And was in rough shape when I got it. I've since rebuilt the engine and currently fixing it slowly

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #147 on: January 13, 2024, 12:19:31 AM »
This old thread you probably mean, but yes, if you subscribed to the thread with one click or posted in the thread and configured your SOHC4 forums profile to email you for all threads you comment on, then people are still seeing any updates to threads that went zombie mode due to lack of posts.

I have one of those K&N unipods I bought this last summer. I wonder if you can fit it inside the air box as well, I think you might but maybe not. Rainy weather often can affect tuned bikes running individual carb pods adversely if riding in bad weather.

Personally I'm all the gear kinda rider and I've ridden in light rain, don't wanna do monsoon gully washer flash flood rains we get in the summer, there riding in the rain and then there is stupid, I've ridden years ago in a monsoon storm.only traveling a mile through it and I was soaked and freezing cold and riding through 4 to 6 inch deep water abd it was not even the worst monsoon downpour I've witnessed. Sometimes a weather radar app or webpage from the computer with Doppler radar can tell you if you are needing to wait or if you gotta go early to beat a storm, monsoon rains storms here in the desert SW are so unpredictable sometimes you flip the coin and win, often you lose.

Sorry the owner of the bike between Scott and you didn't take better care of it...
Exhaust would benefit from a glass bead or sand blasting if it is bad enough, and then a black jet hot ceramic coat, flat black exhaust  pain has to be touched up often to stay looking good avd won't tolerate outdoor storage like that bike was subjected to... The header pipes merely burned off the paint and then rusted...

That is a Kerker exhaust muffler, right?
I have forgotten all Scott did on the bike and Photo_ucket has been jerks on images for years and years now...
Apparently Scott still has the account with them as they haven't deleted the images or the forum software has retained an image with the nasty banner watermark obscuring all the photos you shared.

Given you rebuilt the motor it has been abused or misused and may have gotten tweaked in carb setting to cause it to run lean damaging the motor and causing the header issues...or maybe that header issue...that's just flat black exhaust paint and it's sins...
I'm not a fan of murdered flat black...
Why did you need to rebuild the motor or was it just a personal choice?
What did you do to the motor when you rebuilt it. It is a term often used and it can mean minimal or maximum work... that's why I ask what all you replaced, machines, refreshed with new or better parts and the like.
Some people say they rebuilt a motor and it was completely torn apart, everything measured and any close to spec or expected to be wearing out before the next time they dig into a motor, around 30k isn't uncommon on the SOHC4 for timing chain and guides as well as any needed freshing up or replacement of parts requiring attention for bikes maintained and ridden regularly.

So, rebuilt can mean minimal refresh or can mean major overhaul and rebuilt to factory new condition or better than factory condition. Some call a new top end gasket set and maybe some valve work and some spray paint a rebuild...

The satin finish was gorgeous initially, try lookei g for Spray Max Urethane spray cans I think they have a satin, not always carried, but it will protect the paint job from spills as it looks like the PO was very sloppy and inexperienced, sometimes you can be experienced and still have an oops that damages the paint.
Good to see the bike again and kudos to you for your work on it and bringing it back to better shape. At least it's still surviving and having someone love on it again...

David
« Last Edit: January 13, 2024, 12:35:02 AM by RAFster122s »
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #148 on: January 13, 2024, 05:29:05 AM »
I did meant this section of the thread, sorry.  I haven't posted in one for a few years now. I'm playing on glass beading the exhaust and and painting it back a nice satin black. Theres a semi local place that does a special type of powder coating called cerakote. It should hold hold up much better then what was on this. And yes it is still the kreker Scott had installed on it. And she still sounds amazing. When I got the bike by complet randomnes. I actually trade a old car trailer for it. It ran but was smoking awful out of the exhaust. I had torn down the top half of the engine leaving the pistons installed  and checked rings and the clearance. Some of my tools were a bit not 100% suited for what I needed. But found the jug to be in good shape. Just needed a quick rehone. I was having trouble finding the right size pistion rings. And went to Facebook for help. And actually found Scott. He directed me to this forum and I found out about the pistons. Someone else has tried to rering it and use .5 over rings instead of 1.0 over rings. I also replaced the timing chain guides and valve seals due to them being worn out. And it had a damaged valve adjuster access cap, most likely someone had the arms in the wrong spot and tried to reinstall the plug or cover? According to the speedo on it there's about 25k on it now. It's got some oil leaks still. I need to reseal the bottom of the motor and I believe the gear selector seal. I havnt pulled the side cover to verify that yet. It's been a very fun bike so far

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #149 on: January 13, 2024, 03:51:05 PM »
Hmm how much ring gap did they end up with .5 rings in a +1 bore ? I wouldn’t think the ring tension would change that much ??