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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #125 on: May 18, 2016, 10:27:05 AM »
 New brass cured the carb issues. I used NOS Honda emulsion tubes and needles and new Keihin 105 mains. Everything else is stock.
 First, I figured out a way to get my timing light on it (harder to do with the lithium battery down on the swing arm) and set the timing. It was off a fair bit; too advanced. Got it dead on at full advance now.
 I set the mixture screws at 1.5 turns out and that's where the bike likes them, more or less, with a couple of them needing maybe an 1/8th of a turn out. I put the vacuum gauges on the carbs and probably could have walked away at that point. I made some very, very minor adjustments to 1 and 2, since I had gone to all the trouble of setting it up (no trouble, really....but I was in there, so....).
 Starts right up, idles at just over 1,000 (could bring it down a little, but it sounds good there), pulls great in every gear and all throttle positions. Even pulls away from a lug in 3rd or 4th gear. No bogging, snapping, popping, etc. I'm happy so far!

 Oh, and that Kerker exhaust.... gives me a chubby every time I twist the throttle! It sounds like denim ripping or a MotoGP bike! Amazing.

 I'll pull the cowl and get it painted. I have a message in to the upholstery guy for the seat. The front brake is a little spongy, like there might be some air still in there, so I'll deal with that.
 Shouldn't be long now!




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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #126 on: May 18, 2016, 10:33:32 AM »
Damn, that is just beautiful. What color are you think ling for the seat? Seems like it needs a rich tan.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #127 on: May 18, 2016, 10:44:02 AM »
 Gonna keep it dark, along with the rest of the theme. I have thought about some contrasting stitching in a graphite or titanium color, maybe.
 The fly screen will be matte blue like the rest of the body work.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #128 on: May 18, 2016, 11:28:06 AM »
Might be nice to retain a black stripe up the center of that fly screen and paint the balance Blue.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #129 on: May 18, 2016, 12:04:22 PM »
Hot damn, Scott.  I'm nominating this for BOTM once you finish the paint and seat, unless someone beats me to the punch.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #130 on: May 18, 2016, 01:08:24 PM »
 I'm trying to get it done! It's dragged on forever, it seems. There was a spell there when I was ready to give up on it. Glad I didn't now!
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #131 on: May 18, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »
don't forget some sort of inner rear fender so you are not flinging tons of crap on those pods and finely tuned carbs...that would be fairly pointless
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #132 on: May 18, 2016, 01:51:39 PM »
Shoot. I didn't notice that. That might be a good idea.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #133 on: May 18, 2016, 02:25:32 PM »
Looks great!
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #134 on: May 18, 2016, 06:14:53 PM »
don't forget some sort of inner rear fender so you are not flinging tons of crap on those pods and finely tuned carbs...that would be fairly pointless

 Been running some ideas through my head for a rear hugger.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2016, 02:53:20 PM »
 Picked up the seat today. Came out nice and the padding made a HUGE difference in how well I actually fit the bike. I was a little concerned that I had built a bike that was too small for me!
 It's smooth vinyl on the side, perforated on top (with a backing) and graphite stitching.



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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #136 on: July 08, 2016, 03:16:00 PM »
 And here's what she looks like "done". I say "done" in quotation marks because I'll probably change the mirror and master cylinder.
 I was really trying to not run bar ends because they seem to be on everything these days, but I just can't find a mirror that works with the clip on bars. Sucks, because I kinda like the one that's on there now.
 The master just seems weak. I have a DSS replica on the bench and I know they work great.
 And I'm still kicking around ideas for an inner fender/screen/hugger of some sort.











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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #137 on: July 08, 2016, 03:20:06 PM »
 And in case you forgot, this is what I started with two and a half years ago. This bike simply did not exist before I "swept the floor" and put it together. It's built with parts from multiple bikes.





 You've come a long way, baby!  ;D

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #138 on: July 08, 2016, 03:20:23 PM »
Scott,

I love the seat upholstery and I (of course) love the bike.  The seat actually has plenty of padding and a bump stop.

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #139 on: July 08, 2016, 03:47:00 PM »
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #140 on: July 08, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Nice clip, Scott.

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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #141 on: July 08, 2016, 04:13:14 PM »
I picked up a set go MotoGadget Blaze Pins from Trad that would look fantastic on that bike. Mounted on the bikini, where the screw holes are  8)
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #142 on: July 08, 2016, 04:26:12 PM »
Nice clip, Scott.

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 Thanks. I was trying to do that and couldn't get it to work.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #143 on: July 08, 2016, 11:23:04 PM »
we need a flyby video...in the dirt while its raining 8)
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #144 on: July 09, 2016, 03:43:54 AM »
 Refer to post #136: "And I'm still kicking around ideas for an inner fender/screen/hugger of some sort."
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2016, 05:08:16 AM »
 The ride on this bike is way too stiff, bordering on brutal. Smooth roads are OK, but any potholes induce a pucker moment, and frost heaves set it into a bucking motion that blurs my vision.
 It's probably because the springs in the shocks are for a 750, which is at least 100 pounds heavier than this bike, and it's amplified by the clip ons.
 In the rear, the springs have been cut (to lower the 1100F they were on), which only made them worse. That bike, too, is at least 100 pounds heavier than the STF2 bike.
 
 I called Progressive and explained the situation. They recommended their 11-1104 forks springs, which are 19.12" long; about an inch longer than the springs I removed (sorry, didn't take a measurement). They have a spacer that I didn't use and a 35/50 lbs./in. spring rate.
 For the rear, they suggested their 03-1394 springs. They have a 75/120 lbs./in. spring rate and are 9.75" long.
 You can see in this pic that they're much longer than the cut springs. In fact, I could disassemble the shocks without even using a spring compressor!



 The front springs dropped right in. I put a jack under the bike to lift it just enough to relieve a little pressure on the forks and had my Dad steady the bike while I installed the caps.
 On the rear, it took us a couple of tries to figure out the best way to use my new spring compressors without them slipping off, and then we realized we left out a spacer ring after getting the first one back together....DOH!
 The first shock took us 45 minutes. The second one, maybe 15....  8)

 The front feels better but still seems somewhat stiff. I only rode it up and down the street in front of my house (it was 10:30 p.m. by the time we got done). The rear is definitely better. Dad says I actually have some sag when I sit on the bike now. It did raise the rear up a bit, but that makes the bike look better, IMO.
 And in keeping with the "Sweep the Floor" theme, I bough the springs from a friend for $40 and found the shock springs on eBay for $50, so..... Progressive suspension for only $90!



 The only little head scratcher is that I HAD to install the shock springs in this direction. Normally, the writing on the springs is on the bottom. Now they're "upside down". The perch on the lower part of the 1100F shocks is too narrow to install them that way. They would have slipped right over the end. This was the only way they fit and these are the springs that Progressive suggested.
 Does it really matter what direction they're installed?
 (And FYI: I installed the fork springs with the progressive, or tightly wound, section DOWN, at the bottom)



 Plans for today are to swap out the master cylinder for a David Silver Spares unit and then ride later today.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2016, 05:11:56 AM »
 Oh, and ignore my chicken strips. I've only got a little over 200 miles on the bike and the suspension was too scary before.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2016, 12:15:29 PM »
 Swapped on the DSS master cylinder and now I have proper front brakes. I've used this master cylinder on several builds and you just can't beat it for the money. Only a few bucks more than most rebuild kits and, when used with braided lines and a good, rebuilt caliper, that's just about as good as stock brakes get.
 I also installed some vintage EZ-Pull levers. Those levers and the Kerker came with my old 550F, so they'll live on on the STF2 Bike.



 The suspension is way, way better. It sits slightly higher in the rear now and the ride is still firm, but at least it's forgiving now. I can actually feel the suspension working on the road and I'm MUCH more confident on the bike. Potholes and and rough roads no longer induce blurred vision!




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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2016, 01:12:02 PM »
Looking good, Scott!
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2016, 01:31:29 PM »
Scott... Hope you haven't already answered this, but after riding this bike for a bit now, how do you like that bikini fairing? I would be concerned about wind being deflected directly to the chest or helmet. Do you feel it is an improvement or decline compared to no fairing?


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