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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2014, 04:36:34 AM »
 The header is closer  than the cooler. It's up high and out of the way. The oil lines go between the 2 and 3 pipes. I'll be sure to check, though.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2014, 08:59:27 AM »

 That's correct. I have a KZ tail section and asked Mitch at Vulgar Cycles to fab up a pan using it; he said he could make a whole pan that matched the lines of the tank and fit the bike better. That's all hand made with a removable section for upholstery. He did mimic the lines of the KZ piece.
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I know this is asking a lot but how much did it cost and any chance on them making another :) I want to mount up a ducktail so bad!!

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2014, 01:01:54 PM »
 He did a few fab jobs at once, so I can't say what the tail piece would cost. He also had my bike there for mock up.
 Here's his website: http://vulgarcycles.com/
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #53 on: November 10, 2014, 01:13:08 PM »
 Got the new tires mounted and balanced and installed the Henry Abe wheels....mostly.





 Turns out I have a 550F swing arm and the H.A.'s use a K style backing plate. I have three axles here and they all fit, BUT....
 The spacer on the F swing arm is wider than the spacer on the K swing arm. Now the search is on for the proper spacer.

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2014, 08:43:33 PM »
Wow, those Henry Abe wheels look awesome!
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2015, 05:00:31 PM »
 Long time no update. I've been working a lot, working on other projects and just waiting. I keep staring at the bodywork in the spare bedroom and get motivated from time to time.



 I recently picked up another 550. It's always bothered me that the engine covers on the STF2 bike are polished and almost everything else is satin, matte or semi-gloss. So....I pulled the covers off the "new" 550 and cleaned/sanded them and painted them semi-gloss black. These will go on the STF2 bike and the polished covers will go on the new 550. Win-Win for me!

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2015, 05:04:10 PM »
 I dropped of the engine at 2Topia Cycles for some "Winter Filler" for them and, wouldn't you know it, they got swamped. Nate only recently got started on the top end work.



 Bored for the high compression Yoshimura pistons.




 Valve job, port and polish, match ported manifolds, clearanced for CB650 cam.

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2015, 08:09:12 PM »
  I love sweep the floor bikes.
 A box of parts and determination is all you need to start. And before you know it, the parts of the forgotten are brought together to recreate yet another of  Japan's finest that would otherwise be lost to time.
 I salute you.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2015, 10:25:18 PM »
This bike looks great.  I'm glad it's come out of hibernation.  That paint color looks beautiful and unique with the satin finish.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2015, 09:47:53 AM »
Scott,

What is the displacement with the Yosh big bore kit?
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #60 on: June 02, 2015, 10:29:43 AM »
 Odd that you ask.....
 I was told they were 0.50 over. The even have .50 stamped on the crown. In actuality, they are 1.00 mm over, for a displacement of 562cc.

 I had a hard time finding rings but I  now have a set on the way from Australia.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #61 on: June 02, 2015, 12:24:41 PM »
I've had a hard time definitively determining whether the Cruzinimage 600 kit, Wiseco 572 or the Yosh 562 produced the best power/torque increases over the stock with the 650 cam and a ported head.  It seems like the higher compression of the Wiseco and Yosh kits make up for the smaller displacement increase and might even produce better performance.  Anybody know for sure???

Love the bike, Scott.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2015, 01:14:01 PM »
In a perfect world, with all other systems equal, higher compression should out perform small displacement differences. Compression should equal more power per CC. Only a dyno will tell for sure.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2015, 01:19:34 PM »
 Thanks guys.
 I had a choice between compression and cc's. I chose compression.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2015, 07:42:31 PM »
Can you tease us with mock up picture with the seat and tank on the frame??  ;)

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Looks like an Australian Cattle Dog:

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2015, 08:46:38 PM »
I just want it on the record that I find it borderline offensive that you swept your floor and came up with a set of Lesters and these Henry Abes. So much inspiration going on right now on this forum and you're all up in it.
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2015, 09:41:40 PM »
No doubt. I wish I could sweep up those parts off my floor -- then I'd have more builds going!  That said, I feel extremely fortunate that I was able to source NOS Lesters for my 550 without having to sell organs.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2015, 03:29:27 AM »
Can you tease us with mock up picture with the seat and tank on the frame??  ;)

Cool looking dog:


Looks like an Australian Cattle Dog:



 Yep, that's Gus, my best buddy. She's 16 years old and nearly stone deaf now. Best. Dog. Ever.



 I thought I posted some pics of it mocked up.....here are a few more. None since it's been painted, though. Hopefully, the rings will be here soon and the engine will be buttoned up and I can get back on this one.





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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2015, 07:49:23 AM »
I meant with the painted bodywork. That matte dark blue looks awesome.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2015, 08:06:28 AM »
 Hopefully, soon.....
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2015, 08:30:50 AM »
I've had a hard time definitively determining whether the Cruzinimage 600 kit, Wiseco 572 or the Yosh 562 produced the best power/torque increases over the stock with the 650 cam and a ported head.  It seems like the higher compression of the Wiseco and Yosh kits make up for the smaller displacement increase and might even produce better performance.  Anybody know for sure???

Love the bike, Scott.


Just increasing displacement is easy. Building compression takes a little more work but is KING. PM sent Don

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2015, 09:10:16 AM »
I've had a hard time definitively determining whether the Cruzinimage 600 kit, Wiseco 572 or the Yosh 562 produced the best power/torque increases over the stock with the 650 cam and a ported head.  It seems like the higher compression of the Wiseco and Yosh kits make up for the smaller displacement increase and might even produce better performance.  Anybody know for sure???

Love the bike, Scott.


Just increasing displacement is easy. Building compression takes a little more work but is KING. PM sent Don

Hey Brent.  I got your PM.  I definitely agree after doing some additional research.  It's just that the cruzinimage kit was part of a bulk parts deal that was so good that the pistons/bored cylinders were basically free.  I may just save that and the ported head for my stockish 550 engine, IF it needs rebuilding some time in the future.  I am now leaning on using my spare 650 engine (and rebuilding it with a ported head and 674 kit).

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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2015, 11:51:10 AM »
 Rings are here! Time to get cracking again.



 Gotta love the vintage packaging. I'll have to save a piston box and ring box for "garage art".
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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2015, 12:27:02 PM »
Nice mint packaging.  My Lesters were in the original boxes.  Not as Old School or as Cool as the stamped Pops Yoshimura Racing Parts.
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2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline Scott S

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Re: Sweep the Floor Bike #2
« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2015, 12:54:37 AM »
 Inching ever closer. I plan on going up to 2Topia today and wrapping up a few things and working on some wiring, too.



'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650