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Re: Subway...Eat Fresh!....Chemicals
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 09:46:05 AM »
Sack up people. Also who the hell goes to subway?

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:27 AM »
We have a choice in one area, Burger King, KFC and subway. I always used subway because the food wasn't fried. Then I did some research, now I use none of them. They are all unhealthy. Even though our subway is healthier than yours it's still not healthy.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 10:18:07 AM »
   The news said Mac Donald's uses the same stuff.  They just stopped using pink goo and earthworm meat... no wonder why we all get the $hits when we go there.
  And why can't we just get real food anyways? Next week they'll tell us that the cheese  that didn't melt is plastic or something.
   The Mac Rib, what about that? All the parts of the pig a dog wouldn't eat  goes into a buffalo grinder, then slathered in a special sauce that gives it color and flavor...cook the parasites out of it and it's ready for human consumption ? Nice.
    I bought a slice of pie at Burger King, there wasn't 2 things in the ingredients list that I could pronounce or recognize as food.
  It's fitting that they send this stuff out a window in it's own garbage bag.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 11:32:57 AM »
And why can't we just get real food anyways?

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 12:55:24 PM »
You know, the stuff that could come from a farm or ranch, the stuff that we can hunt, only unmolested by humans by changing it's genes,or over vaccinating  like we do.
    Prepared, stored, cooked and served with the least amount of chemicals, extracted oils from strange plants and gum bases that aren't produced naturally,even some of that is kinda gross when you think about it.       
   Artificial sweeteners , I'd like some real cane sugar over the corn syrup please.
    Bone meal and fillers...pretty sure I can live without.  Yoga mat material? If we thought we should eat stuff like that , there would be no couches or mattresses on the side of the road.
     The worst part is, that almost of the fast food really doesn't taste that great but, we have been conditioned to believe that this stuff is fantastic...even has itemized nutritional  information charts, like there is something in it that our bodies can absorb and use as fuel, not harmful, but truly beneficial to those who ingest it.    I'm not even talking about fats or fat content.
    I'm not talking about squirrel on a stick wrapped in fresh water seaweed, turtle in a half shell, dog milk or weird things like that, or even 100% organic , it's too late for that now.
 I'm talking about nonpoisonous, edible, nutritiously beneficial, food that we can get on the go. It'd be great if it tastes good.
    Our generation's bodies are so saturated with known and unknown toxins that Soilent Green is no longer a possible option for the future. There must be a way to make fast food better.
 
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 01:00:08 PM »
Well that's a change. Usually in Oz its the other way round, we usually get to eat stuff banned in other countries, trans fats among them.
I like my Subway honey oat, turkey, salad with jalapenos.
It is turkey isn't it ???
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 01:21:10 PM »
Real Food doesn't come with a list of ingredients.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 01:21:25 PM »
This is funny.  People that complain about something they know nothing about.  I suppose you grow all your own food and have a private source of drinking water.  And all without any chemicals whatsoever... yeah, right.

You do know that pure water is bad for you when immersed to excess. Yet, try going a week without it.
Studies have proven water's deleterious effects!  In fact, the WHO attributes 388,000 annual deaths to water!

I saw an article about a Japanese program which chemically converted human waste into a hamburger protein.  Yep, hamburgers.  Yes, there were some who ate it.  No deaths yet.  But, we all know there will be within 100 years.  Yes, poop contains protein chemicals, which when refined, are still the basic building blocks required for life.

Parts of ALL of the air you breathe was exhaled by seriously diseased organisms at some point in the past.
Parts of all the water you consume were chemically treated at some historical date.  ...and recycled either intentionally or by some natural process.

Studies have also shown that absolutely no human can survive drinking water from this earth beyond 130 years.  Well, except for some notations in the Christian bible, that well known scientific bastion of irrefutable recorded knowledge.


The fact is, if you eliminate all chemicals from your body, you are dead in seconds.

Just imagine the damage to humans when they are fed a study diet of Dihydrogen monoxide!   Wait you don't have to imagine it.  Here is a web site to expands on it profusely.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 01:24:31 PM »
So just eat anything then, its all good.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 01:25:44 PM »
    Our generation's bodies are so saturated with known and unknown toxins that Soilent Green is no longer a possible option for the future.

I know what you mean, I was just kidding. I like this though, pretty funny.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 02:52:03 PM »

Just imagine the damage to humans when they are fed a study diet of Dihydrogen monoxide! 

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2014, 02:55:59 PM »
So just eat anything then, its all good.
Well, it certainly won't matter to anyone now after 400 years.  Care for an 18th century diet?  It was all "natural" back then.  Life spans averaged around 40 years!  (...With or without teeth.)

But, you forward and interesting black and white position.  All good or all bad.  All black or all white.  No other color or scientific rationale is acceptable for the human emotional reference for right and wrong, good and bad.

Ah, the simpler times when science and education didn't get in the way of living...  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2014, 03:13:18 PM »
This is funny.  People that complain about something they know nothing about.  I suppose you grow all your own food and have a private source of drinking water.  And all without any chemicals whatsoever... yeah, right.

You do know that pure water is bad for you when immersed to excess. Yet, try going a week without it.
Studies have proven water's deleterious effects!  In fact, the WHO attributes 388,000 annual deaths to water!

I saw an article about a Japanese program which chemically converted human waste into a hamburger protein.  Yep, hamburgers.  Yes, there were some who ate it.  No deaths yet.  But, we all know there will be within 100 years.  Yes, poop contains protein chemicals, which when refined, are still the basic building blocks required for life.

Parts of ALL of the air you breathe was exhaled by seriously diseased organisms at some point in the past.
Parts of all the water you consume were chemically treated at some historical date.  ...and recycled either intentionally or by some natural process.

Studies have also shown that absolutely no human can survive drinking water from this earth beyond 130 years.  Well, except for some notations in the Christian bible, that well known scientific bastion of irrefutable recorded knowledge.


The fact is, if you eliminate all chemicals from your body, you are dead in seconds.

Just imagine the damage to humans when they are fed a study diet of Dihydrogen monoxide!   Wait you don't have to imagine it.  Here is a web site to expands on it profusely.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Check out that site before looking at the you tube link below.

Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition

So just eat anything then, its all good.
Well, it certainly won't matter to anyone now after 400 years.  Care for an 18th century diet?  It was all "natural" back then.  Life spans averaged around 40 years!  (...With or without teeth.)

But, you forward and interesting black and white position.  All good or all bad.  All black or all white.  No other color or scientific rationale is acceptable for the human emotional reference for right and wrong, good and bad.

Ah, the simpler times when science and education didn't get in the way of living...  ;D

Nice of you to assume everyone is stupid TT, You may know nothing about what goes in to your mouth {or comes out of it half the time} but some of us sure as hell do and there's absolutely no need for everything to be "man made" or full of unnecessary chemicals and additives, posts like this lack any credibility at all, plain rubbish. 300 years ago people had no idea what they ate and how much of it they ate and the effects it was having internally, or what was considered a "balanced diet" , they didn't posses the means to determine that, they ate what they needed to eat to survive, anyone with half a brain knows this.. Medical advances were also still in their infancy. Lower life expectancy rates in the 18th century were also contributed to largely by infant mortality, which was very high and the incidences of war and other contributing factors like plagues and flu epidemics.....
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2014, 04:41:36 PM »
Were all these people cutting science classes?
That petition signing reminded me that many many years ago someone did a similar thing, in the States again.
They passed a petition around stating that heterosexuals and their activities should be banned, and, everyone was signing it. What gives over there?

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2014, 04:42:40 PM »
TwoTired I get your point...but seriously, are you really trying to claim that food additives, and genetically modified stuff, etc. is good for humans, animals, or even tastier?....I know, I know, if Honda engineers went to all that trouble to create partially hydrogenated corn syrup, then we should just know that it's good. :)
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2014, 07:37:06 PM »
Hah, lived to 40yrs eh??

Here is a scripture from the book of psalms

Psalm 90:10

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+90:10&version=KJV


There you go fellas. Either 70 or 80 yrs before you kick the bucket, and this is *old* information, a lot older than a couple of hundred years ago.


On other notes, everything is tampered with these days. Unless you grow your own food (from non GMO seeds) & carry them over from year to year, your eating the same crud. Google 'agenda21', it explains everything.

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2014, 08:05:32 PM »
Were all these people cutting science classes?
That petition signing reminded me that many many years ago someone did a similar thing, in the States again.
They passed a petition around stating that heterosexuals and their activities should be banned, and, everyone was signing it. What gives over there?

The people have allowed the government social engineers to educate the populace.

I read and article in our local newspaper about revising classroom studies to promote teamwork and "teach" group study curriculum in a way that mimics work groups within companies.  The grades for individuals were based on group output.  The teachers comment in the article was along the lines, that type A students wouldn't like being graded based on other's work.  But, that was what they could expect in the real world, so it was perfectly acceptable.

Seems like a way to level the playing field into a wide selection of mediocrity, to me, where individuals understand from an early age that hard work and application of knowledge has no personal reward or incentive.

The article was proudly written by the school district Superintendent.   Yet another reason to get out of California, methinks.

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2014, 08:33:25 PM »

The article was proudly written buy the school district Superintendent.   Yet another reason to get out of California, methinks.
What makes you think this is strictly a California issue, Lloyd??? BTW, in this context, the word is "by", not "buy". ;)
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2014, 08:33:46 PM »
Nice of you to assume everyone is stupid TT

But for the most part, they are.  We live in a world where we, as a people, have to be warned that coffee from a fast food place is hot, where activities depicted in TV commercials aren't real, and shouldn't be tried in real life, and where page after page of legalese is needed to try and protect companies from the stoopid stuff we as a people will do.

I could get into the idiocy of politics and what people will believe there, but forum rules prohibit that.  Now, you'll have to excuse me, I need to drive somewhere and text while I'm driving.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2014, 09:02:00 PM »

The article was proudly written buy the school district Superintendent.   Yet another reason to get out of California, methinks.

Reminds me of this -

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/california-youth-football-mercy-rule-inflames-parental-passions-103325382.html
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2014, 09:42:17 PM »
TwoTired I get your point...but seriously, are you really trying to claim that food additives, and genetically modified stuff, etc. is good for humans, animals, or even tastier?....I know, I know, if Honda engineers went to all that trouble to create partially hydrogenated corn syrup, then we should just know that it's good. :)

There is certainly chemistry or chemical substances that are harmful for human consumption.  But, not all chemicals are man made, and even of those that are, not all are bad.  They run the range from bad to good.  For example, vitamin C's chemical structure is that same whether it be from a plant, or manufactured in a laboratory.  Both sources can provide other than pure end product.  However, your body is unable to differentiate between the sources, and uses the chemicals in the same manner.

Does anyone here know the exact chemical requirements of the human body?  None of us have an owner's manual.  We just operate on an incomplete information about what the body uses and how it uses it.  Each of us is a chemical conversion unit.

Doctor's don't know either, there is still constant research on what and how the body does what it does and how it does it.  We as a scientific community simply have a snapshot of the knowledge accumulated so far.

We didn't design homo sapiens.  Nor do we understand completely how the individual functions, or the extent of the variations among the species.  Sure, there are statistical as well as case studies, to make an approximate guess with the partial information we have so far.  We actually experiment on our own bodies on a daily basis, with no factual knowledge about the ultimate outcome.  But, we know what we as individuals like.  Isn't this a dichotomy?

As for food additives, some are beneficial, some are neutral, and I expect some are either harmful either near term or long term.  Such is the state of knowledge base at this point in time.

Just because it is a chemical or has a chemical name does not necessarily make it bad for you.  The mechanism and process of how the body assimilates all chemicals is an incomplete database.  The database for how chemicals interact within the human body is even more sparse.

The field of chemistry is vast, and well beyond the average user of twitter and facebook, as well as this very forum.  I personally have only scratched the surface.  Know only that there is far more to know about before a working knowledge can be attained.  Yet sadly, I probably still know more than 90% of the consumer population.

I posted the Link, http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html  so that you might understand how articles (and studies) can be written in a way to lead the reader down the primrose path toward utter ignorance yet form an opinion which the writer wished the reader to conclude.  Unless, you have some rudimentary understanding or bona fide education to sort fantasy from fact, human opinions have no reality reference beyond popularity or widely varying and irrational human emotions.  Sadly, the news shows and general media outlets all present in a way to evoke human base reaction response (adverts, too), to help you form opinions favorable to the presenter.  It may still be based on facts (selected).  But, are they lying by omission, or associating the presented facts with negative (or positive) connotations to evoke a desired conclusion?

If you were to ingest Lycopene, or methylxanthine, would this be good for you or bad for you? 
Is it ok for you to consume any acid?
Try to answer, at least to yourself,  before you look it up.

Anyway, if you live long enough, you will be made aware of substances and chemicals that were once thought good for you, become bad for you, and vice versa on the public awareness stage.  So far, we are all just rolling the dice, as it takes a lifetime to make a determination one way or the other on what we've accumulated.  Hunger notwithstanding, you always have a choice of weather to stuff it in your mouth, or not. 

As a baby, I'm told I ate dirt.  I don't recall why.  It wasn't a diet mainstay.  But, a playtime snack.   But, it has certainly lost it's allure for quite some time, an hasn't killed me yet.  There were no societal pressures to wear a helmet while riding a bicycle either.  Today, my parents would have been vilified for child endangerment.

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2014, 09:57:46 PM »

The article was proudly written by the school district Superintendent.   Yet another reason to get out of California, methinks.
What makes you think this is strictly a California issue, Lloyd???
In fact, I don't know first hand.  But, my relatives in other states haven't relayed such "progressive" programs.  They do complain about the lowering of education standards, though.  Apparently, so that the "dummies" won't feel ostricised or feel bad about learning difficulties or the inability to apply oneself to the task at hand.  Does it really makes sense to hold back the bright ones just to make the lower percentile feel better?  Not everyone has equal intelligence and is it right to force that notion on the general populace?  Would you wish to stifle the cure for cancer, by boring the smart ones into complacency?

Being that California often leads in societal trends, does it make you expect better or worse about the nation's education system?  The Superintendent admitted openly that the programs were experimental towards the learning process.
Would you like your kids to participate?  I think I'd prefer the use of proven techniques.  But, I'm just not a liberal anymore, I guess.  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2014, 12:53:30 AM »
Was over in the US in 1996 and to me just about everything I ate tasted like plastic, whether it was bought from a supermarket or eaten in a restaurant. Don't get me wrong I had a great time and was gobsmacked by the landscape in various places as well as being jealous of how much you guys pay for fuel/gas and whisky.
Meanwhile down here in Tasmania I'm lucky enough to grow my own vegetables eat my own sheep,brew my own beer in gallons and it's common practice to drink your own water from rainwater tanks hooked up to your roofs runoff. We also have mile after mile of uncrowded roads through otherwise wilderness ideal for motorcycling.
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2014, 02:25:35 AM »
i guess this is where i introduce the butter verses margarine variable?