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750F1 triple clamp Washers
« on: February 11, 2014, 08:45:09 PM »
I read on thread somewhere here that the "Bridge, Top Fork" clamp should have a special washer (2).
Was working on my F1 today and noticed they are missing on mine. I checked my parts list and they are listed for the F1 #53235-300-000. Can anyone tell me how thick they should be so that I can make up a couple? Thanks.

« Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 01:17:40 PM by krusty »
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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 08:55:31 PM »
I read on thread somewhere here that the "Bridge, Top Fork" clamp should have a special washer (2).
Was working on my F1 today and noticed they are missing on mine. I checked my parts list and they are listed for the F1 #53235-300-000. Can anyone tell me how thick they should be so that I can make up a couple? Thanks.
Looks like I've found my answer after more trawling through old threads.
One post measured them at 2.33mm. Another says Hondamans book quoted .090? I've only just got my Hondaman book and hadn't read that part so I checked and indeed they measure  2.00mm or .080 somethings.
Luckily I haven't overtightened the clamps. Whew.
Honda
1976 CB750F1
1978 CB750F2
1972 CB350F
1961 C100 Cub
1962 C100 Cub
1959 C76
1963 C92
1964 C95
Suzuki
1963 M15D 50cc
1961 250TA Colleda
1961 250TA Colleda x 2 primed ready for paint and assembly
Yamaha
1977 DT175E x 2
1978 DT125E
1979 DT125F
1976 DT250E
1978 DT250G
1984 FJ1100
1990 FJ1200

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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 04:48:09 AM »
If you happen to have extra head nut washers they fit the bill well. Shave the flat side in to them and skim it with a grinder real quick. Regular washers are too thin
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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 06:39:05 AM »
Seems to be a lot of trouble for something that is readily available.

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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 06:44:57 AM »
Seems to be a lot of trouble for something that is readily available.

I don't believe they are.
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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 07:34:25 AM »
Krusty, Honda changed the top triple (bridge) on the 76F's part way through the 1976 model year. After serial number 2009781 there is NO washer.

The top triple may have been replaced over the years, the non-washer bolts are 7mm. The old design with washers use a 8mm bolt.

 
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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 07:37:41 AM »
Seems to be a lot of trouble for something that is readily available.
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If five minutes of your time with a dremel is a lot of work you shouldn't really be bothering with classic motorcycles
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Round top carbs w/ 38 pilots, middle needle position, airscrew 7/8ths out, 122 main jet
Stock airbox w/ drop in K&N, Hooker 4-1

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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2014, 08:57:44 AM »
Seems to be a lot of trouble for something that is readily available.
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If five minutes of your time with a dremel is a lot of work you shouldn't really be bothering with classic motorcycles


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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2014, 09:20:12 AM »
Krusty, Honda changed the top triple (bridge) on the 76F's part way through the 1976 model year. After serial number 2009781 there is NO washer.

The top triple may have been replaced over the years, the non-washer bolts are 7mm. The old design with washers use a 8mm bolt.

 
I did not know that, my 76F was missing them but since a set fit in the slot, I assume they were needed. I'll check the serial number just for giggles.
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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 10:00:16 AM »
I have a thread in Tricks and Tips on how to make them from head nut washers. They are NLA from US sources. I suspect if you ordered them from overseas you'll get a backorder notice. IF your bike needs them like K0 through K1 with the Unicorn style top bridge and you don't have them you will break a very expensive part.

Notice the price on that washer from CSMNL?

Don't know about the Fs, but if you use standard washers in the K0/K1, the bridge will break. They are not thick enough.
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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2014, 01:11:37 PM »
Krusty, Honda changed the top triple (bridge) on the 76F's part way through the 1976 model year. After serial number 2009781 there is NO washer.

The top triple may have been replaced over the years, the non-washer bolts are 7mm. The old design with washers use a 8mm bolt.

 
I checked my parts list again, this time checking serial numbers. The number you quote is for US export. My s/n is 1015879. The change was after 1016330 for Germany, general export and Australia so it looks like mine should have them.

I'll measure the bolts today just to double check that the part hasn't been replaced at some point, as there is evidence it has been pranged some time in the past (it has K fork tubes).
« Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 01:18:07 PM by krusty »
Honda
1976 CB750F1
1978 CB750F2
1972 CB350F
1961 C100 Cub
1962 C100 Cub
1959 C76
1963 C92
1964 C95
Suzuki
1963 M15D 50cc
1961 250TA Colleda
1961 250TA Colleda x 2 primed ready for paint and assembly
Yamaha
1977 DT175E x 2
1978 DT125E
1979 DT125F
1976 DT250E
1978 DT250G
1984 FJ1100
1990 FJ1200

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Re: 750F1 triple calamp Washers
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2014, 01:26:07 PM »
Seems to be a lot of trouble for something that is readily available.
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If five minutes of your time with a dremel is a lot of work you shouldn't really be bothering with classic motorcycles


Yes, please tell me how I need to live my life so I can be like you: cheap.
When I bought my K7 new back in 1977, it wasn't really a classic motorcycle. Instead, my current RR aside, it is in fact the newest motorcycle I ever owned for all my British and Italian bikes were older, some much older. So, I have been wrong all my life, bothering with bikes that I am not fit to own. Rats. Thank you for lecturing me.

I'm not cheap, you just must not be very clever. Like MCRider said, he has a post stating the same thing I did. I based my "hack" off that idea. My washers are the correct thickness, measured by my calipers.

And like MC also said, sourcing them isn't exactly easy, you can't just call up any old dealership and pay 3$ for them

I don't save money at the expense of safety but I'm certainly not a sucker like I think you are
The dirty girl-1976 cb750k, Ebay 836, Tracy bodykit
Round top carbs w/ 38 pilots, middle needle position, airscrew 7/8ths out, 122 main jet
Stock airbox w/ drop in K&N, Hooker 4-1

Don't trust me alone with a claw hammer and some pliers