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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #425 on: February 06, 2017, 07:26:09 AM »
$1200-$1500 would be my best guess. But priceless from the looks of them. I'll let you know shortly after I round Scott's place and snatch them up while he is at work ;D
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #426 on: February 06, 2017, 12:48:44 PM »
i asked this guy, enrique. i had to, right?
in USD they're 1250 plus shipping. takes him 2-3 weeks to make a set.
that's about 4x the cost of a simple delkevic that would arrive in less than a week. are they 4x as cool? i need a whiskey to decide...

maybe if a few of us got some together, he could make them cheaper?

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #427 on: February 06, 2017, 01:09:45 PM »
i asked this guy, enrique. i had to, right?
in USD they're 1250 plus shipping. takes him 2-3 weeks to make a set.
that's about 4x the cost of a simple delkevic that would arrive in less than a week. are they 4x as cool? i need a whiskey to decide...

maybe if a few of us got some together, he could make them cheaper?


Hmmmm. Group buy?  Maybe.  I'm trying to figure out what bike to use these on.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #428 on: February 06, 2017, 02:20:37 PM »
i asked this guy, enrique. i had to, right?
in USD they're 1250 plus shipping. takes him 2-3 weeks to make a set.
that's about 4x the cost of a simple delkevic that would arrive in less than a week. are they 4x as cool? i need a whiskey to decide...

maybe if a few of us got some together, he could make them cheaper?


Hmmmm. Group buy?  Maybe.  I'm trying to figure out what bike to use these on.

+1

Talked to Scott the other day about these...I'd be tempted to toss some on my blue 500...
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #429 on: February 06, 2017, 02:24:13 PM »
 He offers significant discounts on a group buy, both price and shipping. BUT.....Who's willing to be responsible for such a large sum of other people's money. AND deal with distribution once they arrive. That's why I just ordered a set for myself. And shipping isn't cheap either. Not from Spain to the US. But it was EXTREMELY fast! Less than four days after I made final payment!
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #430 on: February 06, 2017, 04:11:02 PM »
There goes the neighborhood!

Maybe GV can get us all a cheaper shipping rate through Fed Ex?? 

I'm not sure about making someone responsible for holding all the money, unless Cal is up for it. 

I'll wait to see if someone trustworthy wants to escrow these funds.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #431 on: February 06, 2017, 04:28:15 PM »
I'm out. I'm getting my set for free from Scott's donor bike. Shhh! Don't tell him though.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - exhausting discussion
« Reply #432 on: February 07, 2017, 10:54:37 PM »
here's some more info from enrique:

"All materials and industrial process to build my curved (Pasolini replica) and super-curved (MV- Agusta Magni replica) exhaust are under copyright and I can´t report about.
You can use the main and side stand, original oil filter etc with the exhaust, but you must to prevent what original components you want to respect, when ordering. The exhaust are designed mainly for racing use, so road machines has many components that could be affected by the racing design of the pipes, so I need to know all your sugestions.
The oil filter can be changed easilly, and the headers pipes has enought clearence to get a proper job.
The removable silencers can be graduated to control de noise level. You can do this job in few minutes.
About ceramic coating is a VERY expensive job and very few people can do a REAL job , so I sugest evitate these treatements for a more simple and effective thermic paintwork or thermic electrostatic."


sounds pretty good to be honest.
he's a bit cagey about the material but i'll ask him some more questions about the characteristics.
no response on the group buy thingie. i guess the low volume and hassle we'd create is not worth it.

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #433 on: February 08, 2017, 04:50:26 AM »
Ceramic may be very expensive in Spain, but is not so here in the States. I get MGP 4:1 treated internally and externally for $225. Material is mild steel.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #434 on: February 08, 2017, 06:58:26 AM »
 That's pretty much exactly what he told me about the coating; he can do it but it's very expensive there, and I'd be better off doing it here.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #435 on: February 08, 2017, 08:21:35 AM »
i don't even know what it would cost here, need to ask around.

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #436 on: February 08, 2017, 02:41:04 PM »
FYI - ceramic powder can be four times the cost of standard powder.

I have a 4-1 exhaust at my powder guys shop now awaiting coating.

https://www.powderbuythepound.com/gray_ice_ceramic_-1_quart.html
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #437 on: February 09, 2017, 07:11:04 AM »
adding this here from enrique, to keep it complete:

"I don´t use inox steel, but we apply zync traitement once the megaphones has been welded and for internal silencers. The thermic paintwork includes internal and external areas, so I think the protection against rust is OK. If the pipes can be affected by the rain (water) during a road trip, just a new coat of spray of thermic painting (15 euros for each can, made in USA) renew your exhaust again to new look..
The max temperature on the headers pipes (only 20cm from the head) is from 700-900 Cº. The rest of the headers pipes (max 30cm from head.) is under 300 Cº and the megaphones never is up to 120 Cº, so an efficient thermic paintwork is enought to protect the metal.
Using ceramic traitement in all pipes+megaphones is very expensive and not necesary to get the best protection."


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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #438 on: February 10, 2017, 02:01:11 AM »
Basically he is saying, High Heat Paint.  Right? So a 300 C temperature capable paint. 572 F temp paint...

The basic high heat paint at the auto parts store. Or paint supplier might be better quality...
Eastwood's internal header and exhaust paint might be a better solution that to the auto parts store.
But having them ceramic coated by a professional here in the US by someone who does good work would be ideal.

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Re: 1976 CB550F - how do i look in this?
« Reply #439 on: February 10, 2017, 03:19:09 AM »
high heat paint is what he's saying, yes. but 300C won't do it on the headers, temps there can go up to 900C. anyway, i think ceramic would be my first choice here.

then i snuck into scott's hideout and borrowed his shiney new pipes to try them on. sorry cal, you should've been quicker!



so that's what it would look like on an otherwise pretty stock looking bike. i think i could get used to that.

of course, if the pipes are ceramic black the seat should be a matching black, too. which makes it easier for me to find a replacement for the original brown one that is on its way out. two birds with one stone... right?

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #440 on: February 10, 2017, 03:23:14 AM »
The guy I use to ceramic coat my pipes can do so in titantium grey, satin or flat black, shiny silver, or mild grey. Nothing close to brown though Flats.

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #441 on: February 10, 2017, 04:32:23 AM »
POR15 makes a high temp paint for up to 1200C, formerly known as Formerly POR-20, Black Velvet and Factory Manifold Gray.  If properly cured it is durable.  BUT, they recommend a sandblasted surface...so I wouldn't want to take my new header and sandblast it.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #442 on: February 10, 2017, 12:49:21 PM »
no thanks cal, no brown pipes. i don't know what you've been smoking in your pipe to even think of that.
i'm not a terrorist, i'm a freedom fighter: liberating my exhaust gases from the unjust restrictions and oppression of rust and decay. viva la libertad! (oops that's the other side of the wall for you)

david, i'll be looking what else is available but am pretty sure i'd go for ceramic.
anyone familiar with cerakote? there's a guy here doing that.

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« Reply #443 on: February 10, 2017, 12:53:15 PM »
It's the coating my guy uses for exhausts. Still not available in brown though.  ;) I have had a number of exhaust systems done and very pleased with it. Durable, effective, and well worth the money.
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #444 on: February 10, 2017, 12:59:40 PM »
alright sounds like i found the right one. cheers!
you're so last season... black is the new brown.

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #445 on: February 10, 2017, 01:34:56 PM »
So you're saying, I'm old and slow? Heart breaker!  >:( Kick an old man when he's (run)down
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #446 on: February 10, 2017, 02:13:02 PM »
speaking about brown: did you know that when i bought this bike, the tank and side covers were painted some nasty turd brown? i'm sure that's why nobody thought of buying it before me. must be my lucky colour  :o

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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #447 on: February 10, 2017, 02:45:46 PM »
 I found a local guy to ceramic coat my pipes.
 And I wish I could hurry up and get the frame back so I can blitzkrieg this thing and be the first to run a set of these pipes!!
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #448 on: February 10, 2017, 03:06:01 PM »
speaking about brown: did you know that when i bought this bike, the tank and side covers were painted some nasty turd brown? i'm sure that's why nobody thought of buying it before me. must be my lucky colour  :o
Do you remember, Fendersrule, Flats? He had a brown/black 450. He went on a tirade in one of his moments about how his girlfriend, the graphic designer told him that Brown/Black was among the most sublime color combinations and that most ordinary people are too myopic (or some other demeaning adjective) to understand its elegance. I was like, yeah, thats me.

So by your post you're lumping yourself into the crowd of Ordinaries. Welcome to the party, Brother!
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Re: 1976 CB550F - making it good, one step at a time
« Reply #449 on: February 10, 2017, 03:19:30 PM »
I see I'm not welcome here....
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