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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2014, 02:03:19 PM »
More goodies on order:
New cam tensioner, adjustable cam chain sprocket and chain. 

Still stuck between a low compression big bore kit and a Wiseco high compression kit.  I'll have to hear some feedback from Kraut and Cal as to their respective results, as they are using the different kits with ported motors.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2014, 08:04:31 PM »
Don - what did you use for a Cam chain and the source? Stock, aftermarket, etc? Details please! I've posted this question but gotten no replies.

Uh, my bike blows KK away. In fact, I had to install telescopic rear views so I could see him after shifting to 2nd gear... ;D

Cal,

I sourced the cam chain and tensioner from David Silver Spares.  They are OEM replacements.  NOS are unobtanium.  The adjustable cam chain sprocket is from Dynoman. 
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2014, 07:33:29 AM »
So no need for any "upgraded" model due to performance mods? I wouldn't expect it necessary, as the power gains (on mine) are very similar to stock.

It's a good call about the adjustable sprocket. I'll have to see what MRieck sends along.

I haven't seen an upgraded cam chain tensioner available akin to the Cylcle X or M3 tensioners.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2014, 01:37:25 PM »
So no need for any "upgraded" model due to performance mods? I wouldn't expect it necessary, as the power gains (on mine) are very similar to stock.

It's a good call about the adjustable sprocket. I'll have to see what MRieck sends along.

I haven't seen an upgraded cam chain tensioner available akin to the Cylcle X or M3 tensioners.

I just double-checked with Cycle X.  They are basically selling through their 500/550 stock.  The guy Matt told me that 500/550 parts haven't sold well, so they stopped development of new parts.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2014, 07:30:34 AM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!
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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2014, 08:13:21 AM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2014, 09:09:07 AM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.


Are you looking to adopt? I'll just ride your bikes and keep maintenance up on them all.
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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.


Are you looking to adopt? I'll just ride your bikes and keep maintenance up on them all.

Haha.  Jordan, you're the one with the "750 Killer" motor.  How's that coming along?  Have you healed up after getting raped for your new cam chain tensioner?!  Damn those are pricey!
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2014, 11:20:36 AM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.


Are you looking to adopt? I'll just ride your bikes and keep maintenance up on them all.

Haha.  Jordan, you're the one with the "750 Killer" motor.  How's that coming along?  Have you healed up after getting raped for your new cam chain tensioner?!  Damn those are pricey!

Motor is coming together, frame is untouched! I'll never heal from th raping of David Silver Spares, that #$%* sent me the bill for customs too!
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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2014, 11:26:03 AM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.


Are you looking to adopt? I'll just ride your bikes and keep maintenance up on them all.

Haha.  Jordan, you're the one with the "750 Killer" motor.  How's that coming along?  Have you healed up after getting raped for your new cam chain tensioner?!  Damn those are pricey!

Motor is coming together, frame is untouched! I'll never heal from th raping of David Silver Spares, that #$%* sent me the bill for customs too!

Did you purchase from the UK site or the USA site?  They can't pop you for customs if you purchased through the USA site -- they get to eat that as their cost.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2014, 07:27:17 PM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.


Are you looking to adopt? I'll just ride your bikes and keep maintenance up on them all.

Haha.  Jordan, you're the one with the "750 Killer" motor.  How's that coming along?  Have you healed up after getting raped for your new cam chain tensioner?!  Damn those are pricey!

Motor is coming together, frame is untouched! I'll never heal from th raping of David Silver Spares, that #$%* sent me the bill for customs too!

Uk  :'(

Did you purchase from the UK site or the USA site?  They can't pop you for customs if you purchased through the USA site -- they get to eat that as their cost.
74 cb550
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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2014, 09:07:09 PM »
Looked on CL today and came to the realization you're looking at another states for sale websites because I can't find a runner for under 3k!

I got this one from Lake Forest. No title. Will be out of the system in December.


Are you looking to adopt? I'll just ride your bikes and keep maintenance up on them all.

Haha.  Jordan, you're the one with the "750 Killer" motor.  How's that coming along?  Have you healed up after getting raped for your new cam chain tensioner?!  Damn those are pricey!

Motor is coming together, frame is untouched! I'll never heal from th raping of David Silver Spares, that #$%* sent me the bill for customs too!

Uk  :'(

Did you purchase from the UK site or the USA site?  They can't pop you for customs if you purchased through the USA site -- they get to eat that as their cost.

That blows!  Next time you order anything from DSS, order from their US site, and you will save not only on customs but shipping, too!!
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2014, 04:16:55 PM »
I've been coveting Cal's 500 engine build (Wiseco kit with thermal reflective coatings).  Damn you, Cal, for distracting me!  I like the look of Cal's 12-point bolts, but I don't like the idea of having to get a whole new wrench/socket set or adding to my road tool kit.  It sure looks cool though!

My DSS cam chain tensioner finally made it.  That was a costly bit of kit, but this motor is going to need a full rebuild, as it is leaking from mulitple seals/gaskets.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 07:58:33 PM by CB750 Cafe Racer Fan »
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2014, 08:14:28 PM »
Whew!   I came home to a titled 550K4 Frame on my doorstep, carefully packaged up by Justin aka justfours.   ;D
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2014, 06:29:12 PM »
Whew!   I came home to a titled 550K4 Frame on my doorstep, carefully packaged up by Justin aka justfours.   ;D

YOU LUCKY DOG!
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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2014, 12:04:02 AM »
Whew!   I came home to a titled 550K4 Frame on my doorstep, carefully packaged up by Justin aka justfours.   ;D

YOU LUCKY DOG!

It's nice to know that if I run into any snag getting a title for the untitled K4 I bought, that I can swap everything to this frame.  My plan is to take the complete K4 to get titled this December.  If I can't get a title, I'll cannibalize the complete bike and use the pre-titled frame.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2014, 04:23:46 PM »
Picked up some gorgeous-looking aluminum parts from TTR400.
New Points Cover:





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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2014, 06:50:47 PM »
Wish I had known you were ordering that points cover, I would have had you get 2 and save us on the shipping. I was planning that same item for my 500 build.

Kevin surely makes some beautiful bike porn parts. Dang I wish he were on this continent...

Done.  PM me your address.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2014, 03:54:02 PM »
Does anyone know offhand what the stock offset is for a CB550? 

If you go with an 18" front wheel should you change the offset and (if so) to what?   
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 07:59:26 PM by CB750 Cafe Racer Fan »
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2014, 08:05:18 PM »
The stock offset is 45mm. If you only change to an 18" front wheel you're lowering the front end .5", no need to worry much about changing geometry. However if you then raise the rear with shocks longer than say 1" as well then that will surely reduce trail enough to potentially bring on a tank slapper if something upsets the chassis. I'm preparing a set of NSR125 35mm triple clamps for a fellow here for a project he is planning.

Count on 25mm up or down on a 1422mm wheelbase to result in a 1 degree change in rake. As an example on a stock frame mine was lower in the front by 12.7mm, the rear shocks were 44mm longer. This yielded a rake angle of approximately 24 degrees (stock=26d) and with 45mm offset reduced trail to approximately 89mm. (stock 105mm) Dangerous numbers, and it eventually caught me up! Now my rake is reduced 1 degree further to 23 degrees and with 30mm offset clamps my trail figures are 99mm, still quick steering but with plenty of trail. Just so you have some figures to work with.

Honestly though these type reactions aren't a guarantee, I raced three years this way and never felt a twitch....it did lead to disaster eventually, but on the street you might never have an issue. If you want to be sure it never happens, then certainly make the change.

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2014, 10:01:04 PM »
The stock offset is 45mm. If you only change to an 18" front wheel you're lowering the front end .5", no need to worry much about changing geometry. However if you then raise the rear with shocks longer than say 1" as well then that will surely reduce trail enough to potentially bring on a tank slapper if something upsets the chassis. I'm preparing a set of NSR125 35mm triple clamps for a fellow here for a project he is planning.

Count on 25mm up or down on a 1422mm wheelbase to result in a 1 degree change in rake. As an example on a stock frame mine was lower in the front by 12.7mm, the rear shocks were 44mm longer. This yielded a rake angle of approximately 24 degrees (stock=26d) and with 45mm offset reduced trail to approximately 89mm. (stock 105mm) Dangerous numbers, and it eventually caught me up! Now my rake is reduced 1 degree further to 23 degrees and with 30mm offset clamps my trail figures are 99mm, still quick steering but with plenty of trail. Just so you have some figures to work with.

Honestly though these type reactions aren't a guarantee, I raced three years this way and never felt a twitch....it did lead to disaster eventually, but on the street you might never have an issue. If you want to be sure it never happens, then certainly make the change.

Great information. Thanks!
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2014, 04:13:04 PM »
Today, I picked up a '82 CB650 primarily for the engine.  I've been thinking about Paulages' 650 big bore in a 550 frame, and like the idea of 750 big bore performance in the lighter 550 package. 



« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 08:00:38 PM by CB750 Cafe Racer Fan »
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2014, 11:44:49 AM »
Hah!  That would be sweet.

« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 08:01:09 PM by CB750 Cafe Racer Fan »
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2014, 04:44:48 PM »
I'm finding a kidney to sell (not mine) for a MR port job.  I'm not sure if it will need a stage 3 or just a stage 2.  I'll have to ask Mike. 

This bike will feature a Cal/TTR400 swinger.

Wait, I still have to build my stinkin' 750 hotrod first.  And sell my beloved RC51.  Anyone want to buy my Nine Lives bike?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 08:02:07 PM by CB750 Cafe Racer Fan »
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1978 CB550K4 Another Bike?
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2014, 05:03:43 PM »
I hope that bit about selling 9 Lives is a joke?

Someone was listening!  No, I'm not planning to sell Nine Lives any time soon, but (sadly) I am pretty darn sure I will have to let the RC51 go.  Ohlins shocks, re-valved forks, Leo Vince pipes.  LOW miles.  Flawless bike.  The S1000R calls.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold