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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2014, 05:14:14 AM »
Beautiful Job on the polishing P.abrera  8) Make sure you've got enough braces on that Dexion homemade engine stand;that Dexion steel shelf stuff is real strong 'up & down' but not much sideways.I look forward to seeing what your engine looks like.
The images you have posted lately look a lot more clear that the old ones,Nice.  :)
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2014, 07:33:01 PM »
Thanks grcamna2. Slow goin but ill just keep pluggin along.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2014, 05:10:17 AM »
Some progress. Got my carbs sorted with new jets, needles and gaskets.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2014, 06:01:03 AM »
I know those carbs must have been a big job,good to see them ready to install  :)
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2014, 04:31:01 AM »
Got to work pulling the head. Ran into some trouble with the tappet covers. One broke off leaving the threaded end stuck in the valve cover and a couple rounded off. PO cemented everything shut with gasket sealer!  Some heat and a pipe wrench persuaded them to come off and and chisel spin out the left-over thread. Valve cover over saved.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2014, 04:37:08 AM »
Stuck at pulling the cam sprocket off cause it wont turn from the cam or the crankshaft, rings must be rusted.
Flooded the cylinders with oil from the sparkplug holes and hope they loosen up after a soak. Will apply some heat to the outside of the cylinders via heat gun to thin the oil in hopes it penetrates better. On the bright side. Camshaft and valve stem/springs look tidy despite the grotty state of the case on the outside.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2014, 04:38:22 AM »
The points and condensers are a different story though. They arent exacy looking thier best


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2014, 05:20:38 AM »
If you're planning on splitting the cases, cut the cam chain and pull the cam, sprocket and chain out.

Make sure you use the 14mm bolt under the left side to turn the engine over, and NOT the larger bolt under the points assembly.

I had to barbecue my jugs for 4 hours after a 6 month soak of alternating fluids and pent rants to get them freed from my rusted rings. Even then, propane directed at the bottom edge of the sleeves was required to free the rings in #2/#3 and free the cylinders from the lower end.

That sounds like it was an 'All Day' effort Calj  ::)
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2014, 06:02:33 AM »
Argh! I hope i dont have to go that far. Hoping not to have to split the case. Well see. Fingers crossed...

Thanks for the advice, hope i dont have to use it tho


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2014, 07:52:07 AM »
Haha. Not too far fetched with the unpredictable weather these dsys

Well like i said, hopin for a easy  break on this first build. Progress is gonna be slow but will keep you guys posted. Thanks!


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2014, 03:50:00 AM »
Two bolts showing! Rings broke free after a 3-day oil soak and 20 monites with a heatgun the journey continues!


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2014, 11:14:51 PM »
Heads off! Found some scoring on piston 1 and matching cylinder though


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2014, 11:17:25 PM »
Also some damage on the cam sproket. Think it'l affect functionality?


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2014, 06:01:08 AM »
I see a re-bore in your future. And a new cam sprocket. Best to include a new cam chain with that purchase too. If you can, do evaluate the primary chain and sprocket while you're at it. The chains are cheap, having them fail is not.

Ya, definite rebore. Hopefully next oversize up. What's the story on the piston scoring? Don't the rings hit the cylinder wall before you get piston rub?

Have to do a bit more reading on replacing the cam chain, can it be done without splitting the cases?

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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2014, 06:07:05 AM »
Piston scoring is normal. If its not too deep you can polish it out with sand paper but only in the direction of the lines.
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2014, 06:17:47 AM »
I see a re-bore in your future. And a new cam sprocket. Best to include a new cam chain with that purchase too. If you can, do evaluate the primary chain and sprocket while you're at it. The chains are cheap, having them fail is not.

Ya, definite rebore. Hopefully next oversize up. What's the story on the piston scoring? Don't the rings hit the cylinder wall before you get piston rub?

Have to do a bit more reading on replacing the cam chain, can it be done without splitting the cases?

I Hope you DO split the cases(it's the only way to replace the cam chain)and replace the Primary chain and sprocket as Cal says.
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2014, 06:40:46 AM »
Cool thread, subscribed.

Don't care for the instagram style filter on your photos, makes it hard to see and help. Save that retro patina effect for when it's done maybe? My $.02 - everyone else probably loves it.

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I agree w/ NobleHops that many times the pictures you post are difficult to clearly see. Can you change the setting of your computer so they are more clear please ? !
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2014, 07:37:17 AM »
Haha, sorry guys, im grabbing hipsterific pics from my instagram.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2014, 07:39:45 AM »
Cylinder


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2014, 07:59:29 AM »
Figured. List of replacement parts are growing.

Will do more cleaning and see what i find. Thanks for the interest and advice.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2014, 08:57:39 AM »
P.arbrera,
Those are nice,clear pictures !  ;)  8)
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2014, 01:16:56 AM »
Some progress. Top end is clean and ready for re-assembly. Valves are lapped and cylinders are bored out for the new 3mm over pistons.


Frame's been repaired and getting a tear hoop in the coming days.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2014, 09:37:29 PM »
Side stand mount had to come off when the rotted part of the frame was cut out so my welder did a new mount and a cleaner/simpler stand in stainless (old stock stand was missing from my basket-case frame) . Passenger peg mounts have been deleted and rearset mounts have also been tacked on for fit as well.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2014, 10:09:45 PM »
That will work nicely!
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2014, 04:34:20 AM »
Would have preffered less "racy" rearsets but these are what was available to me.

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