Author Topic: Classic Bonneville Racer (Read 116328 times)

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #75 on:** August 05, 2014, 01:17:57 PM »

Joe...........You could have a good discussion with Dave Murre about the 360 motor........He built a winning 360 flat-tracker a few years ago for a current pro-racer.

Jerry..............Zak is planning to be there along with his Dad

The banner and the log-book..............you are aware that I plan to have the current Pimp-Lizard riding on the CBR

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #76 on:** August 09, 2014, 06:32:12 AM »

We will try to fire-up the motor today

Cam-timing is spot-on for opening events.........but a little short on closing......just a little.

Oil & filter, plugs, carbs, header-clamps, and a fuel-bag to be installed..........then ear-plugs.

Later..........

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #77 on:** August 09, 2014, 06:38:07 AM »

Good luck Dennis.

Sam.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #78 on:** August 09, 2014, 07:01:06 AM »

What Sam said! Pics and video!

Bill

754 · « **Reply #79 on:** August 09, 2014, 08:57:34 AM »

Good luck....awaken the beast....

bwaller · « **Reply #80 on:** August 09, 2014, 09:14:10 AM »

That damned first startup is always stressful...even though you've been over & over & measured & calculated and test fit...

It'll be smiles all around.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #81 on:** August 09, 2014, 11:19:22 AM »

Hell yeah!

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #82 on:** August 09, 2014, 04:13:50 PM »

I was tooooooo optimistic

The carbs are on.........after a few grunts.........and the motor turns just fine with the electric starter.........but no plugs because we do not have oil pressure. Before we take anything apart, Dave will try his big air-drill and socket applied to the crankshaft on Monday AM. That will give us faster rpms so it should push some oil. We can see that we have oil in the sump because the edge of the cam-chain is wet.

All of the painted parts are complete and waiting...................I'll post a few pics later.

Jerry............Grasscutter and his dad will arrive on Saturday, the 23rd, and leave on Tuesday.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #83 on:** August 09, 2014, 09:51:55 PM »

My first time in 2013 I got no oil pressure until it fired. Worried the #$%* out of me. I installed the pump dry, filled the tank, put SOME oil in the gauge galley and top end without initial success. This past time I filled the tank, I tried to prime the pump but it seems most drains out anyway and dumped about 2 quarts in the top end. I'm thinking thats what does the trick since the stopper valve keeps the oil tank full. The 2 quarts drains to the sump that way and the pump picks it up and sends that to the engine. Much quicker pressure before firing up but never as quick as you'd like. Sweat it out

Assembly lube to the rescue, yes!

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #84 on:** August 10, 2014, 11:12:32 AM »

Dialing-in the cam..........Intake & Exhaust

Trial-fit of tank & seat.........front fender is complete

Oil-tank...........its smaller than stock and the filler is inboard beneath the seat..........stock hoses were retained. RS34 Carbs are on

MRieck · « **Reply #85 on:** August 10, 2014, 12:22:19 PM »

Looks very nice Dennis. If it goes as good as it looks you will do well.

bear · « **Reply #86 on:** August 10, 2014, 05:47:36 PM »

Dennis,
.
We have modified the cap on the oil feed journal that most people use to fit their oil gauge.
It's been drilled out and we have fitted a hose tail.
We then use a large syringe attached to a short length of hose to fill all the oil galleries under a little pressure, only takes a minute.
Replace the original cap or gauge and Bob's your uncle, instant oil pressure.

Probably a little to late to help now, sorry about that.

Cheers,
Brian

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #87 on:** August 10, 2014, 06:16:25 PM »

Just in time

Dave is very cautious about starting a motor. He likes to SEE oil pressure before it fires. Your tip will re-enforce my suggestion to him to remove the center-plug (former sending-unit to the idiot-light) and do as you suggest. He has the tools to get it done. Thanks for the help and encouragement.

My wife is trying to teach me how to use the video feature on my camera..........no promises

754 · « **Reply #88 on:** August 10, 2014, 07:28:04 PM »

What the long range weather forecast look like.. ,
The flats have been rained out nearly every event since 2013..
Gotta stop, hope it dries up and stays clear..

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #89 on:** August 10, 2014, 07:38:40 PM »

HOT & SUNNY..............I hope

My daughter lives at the same latitude in northern California............it rained there today which is a good thing for the forest fire situation.........but will the rain get to the salt-flats?............usually not at this time of year. I think the recent rains were caused by changing winds in the Pacific due to the hurricanes. Now that event is past................but we will be watching the weather very closely beginning next week. Stay tuned so you get the latest report before you hit the road

scottly · « **Reply #90 on:** August 10, 2014, 08:00:54 PM »

Quote from: Old Scrambler on August 09, 2014, 04:13:50 PM

We can see that we have oil in the sump because the edge of the cam-chain is wet.

The pressure side of the oil pump is supplied from the tank, not the sump. Brian's suggestion of injecting oil into the galley is a good idea.

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #91 on:** August 11, 2014, 06:05:12 PM »

So we pumped about a 1/3-qt of 20-50 into the galley............no go

We poured about a 1/2-qt down the cam-tower...........no go

We turned the motor over with a large high-speed drill and succeeded in pumping oil into the tank.........to the point that it was FULL

So we drained the sump and dropped the pan...........worked everything in the pump by hand...........re-installed with a new gasket.........sure happy to have spares on hand.........and spun the motor with the drill..............Yeah

Proceeded to hook up the fuel bag and the ignition...........watched fuel (VP-110) flow to the new RS34s...........applied separate battery power to the starter............and SUCCESS

THE CBR RUNS

We ran it through a few short heat-cycles at about 2500 to 3000 rpm..............advised by the cam and carb specs to keep the motor happy at those speeds.............or higher

I'll try to post a pic or 3 later.........

Final wiring and a long-term heat-cycle will be tomorrow...........then re-torque............installithe air-intake and tach, adjust the brake and clutch............then its time to RIDE...........short test ride............then a little longer............and then

bwaller · « **Reply #92 on:** August 11, 2014, 06:45:37 PM »

Nice.

MCRider · « **Reply #93 on:** August 11, 2014, 07:12:12 PM »

Quote from: bwaller on August 11, 2014, 06:45:37 PM

Nice.

Really!

MRieck · « **Reply #94 on:** August 11, 2014, 08:09:05 PM »

Hand cycling the pump always works....at least it has for me. The engine must sound nice with that CR.

scottly · « **Reply #95 on:** August 11, 2014, 08:43:28 PM »

Why do you refer to it as the "CBR"? I thought a CBR was a modern bike??

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #96 on:** August 11, 2014, 08:59:33 PM »

About time

2 weeks to spare too. I was beginning to think you were going to have to ride behind Dave on I-80 to get it broken in.

Congrats guys. Looking forward to the ride report. Will you get it on a dyno?

MCRider · « **Reply #97 on:** August 12, 2014, 07:20:49 AM »

Quote from: scottly on August 11, 2014, 08:43:28 PM

Why do you refer to it as the "CBR"? I thought a CBR was a modern bike??

You're going to kick yourself, as I did:
CBR=Classic Bonneville Racer. Thread title.

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #98 on:** August 12, 2014, 09:08:01 AM »

Jerry.............that has been considered..........

Scott........MC has my back!

Mike........The motor sounds better than 'good'............I'm optimistic and Dave is happy. Dave was impressed with the ability of the RS34s to work right out of the box. We began with 125-jets. We will know a lot more after a 'test' ride........Friday or Saturday.

scottly · « **Reply #99 on:** August 12, 2014, 07:01:08 PM »

Quote from: MCRider on August 12, 2014, 07:20:49 AM

Quote from: scottly on August 11, 2014, 08:43:28 PM
Why do you refer to it as the "CBR"? I thought a CBR was a modern bike??
You're going to kick yourself, as I did:
CBR=Classic Bonneville Racer. Thread title.

OK, how about C.B.R. for dummies like me?

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Author Topic: Classic Bonneville Racer (Read 116328 times)