Author Topic: broke down in lake havasu. help! (Read 3885 times)

DaSchwartz · « **on:** March 31, 2014, 01:18:00 PM »

No spark. Broke down on side of road. '77 750 F with power ignition. Any suggestion

goldarrow · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:23:19 PM »

Bummer! I hope someone near by the area can come to the rescue! Fatmatt's bike?

flybox1 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:28:43 PM »

no spark or no electrics, period?
check your block connectors behind the ignition and in the headlight shell.
turn your key on and watch for the lights to flicker as you wiggle the connections...

ekpent · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:30:32 PM »

Dyna ignition or such ? Check the main power feed wire- check fuses-check ground- make sure kill switch is off- Check wire leading to and going into the ignition switch. Check wires around coils-.Check battery connection-- Is the engine spinning but not firing ?

DaSchwartz · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:32:39 PM »

Ya its fatt matts bike. No power coming out of the coils. Lights work. Engine turn but wont fire. We even held the plugs to check for spark but got nothin.

fendersrule · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:41:10 PM »

Crank and jiggle the kill switch? If that's on "OFF" (or a malfunction) then it will never spark as well...

scottly · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:42:19 PM »

So is it electronic ignition or points?

goldarrow · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:43:36 PM »

Quote from: scottly on March 31, 2014, 02:42:19 PM

So is it electronic ignition or points?

Cycle X power arc ignition

scottly · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:54:21 PM »

CycleX has no installation information on their website.

goldarrow · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2014, 03:02:57 PM »

If all connections and fuses check out good. I'm thinking both coils went bad...but both coils at the same time?

scottly · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2014, 03:10:03 PM »

Found instructions on the power arc website: try running a wire directly from the battery+ to the red wire of the power arc.

toytuff · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:16:04 PM »

We are working on a backup plan.

Hoping to find a stock setup. I'm not familiar with this setup.

tt

fatmatt650 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:18:04 PM »

I have power to the coils and the spinning ignition plate thingy. It is an optically fired ignition system that fires a laser at a spinning plate and sends a signal to spark when the hole in the plate lines up w/ the laser on each revolution. None of the power leads in the loom register an intermittent spark consistent with this rotation, they are on all the time. My assumption is that the the plate has failed and needs to be replaced.
Questions - Are my coils good? How can I test for this?
- Will stock points and condensor be compatible w/ the Cycle Exchange coils?
- What is a good source for a stock or aftermarket replacement system that I can have shipped to our hotel in Lake Havasu?
- Is it really so bad to be stranded in Lake Havasu and surrounded by bikini clad college girls on spring break?

toytuff · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:24:19 PM »

You're killing me with your tales of woe!

Question: will a stock points plate and points work with the cycle x system?

tt

atm cycles · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:26:26 PM »

- Is it really so bad to be stranded in Lake Havasu and surrounded by bikini clad college girls on spring break?

I think I can help I'm on my way

toytuff · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:28:02 PM »

Thick as flies down there now.

tt

toytuff · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:34:17 PM »

I checked and the plate, points and condensers are still available from Honda.

Still waiting on a reply from Harris Motors.

tt

KayOne · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:35:56 PM »

Check the static timing LED on the power arc ignition unit. Turn the crank over slowly and see if it lights at TDC. If it does not and there is power to both it and the coil (and a good ground to the baseplate) it is likely the unit is NFG. The Power Arc coils have 2.8 ohms resistance so it may tax a point system.

toytuff · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:41:14 PM »

Quote from: KayOne on March 31, 2014, 04:35:56 PM

Check the static timing LED on the power arc ignition unit. Turn the crank over slowly and see if it lights at TDC. If it does not and there is power to both it and the coil (and a good ground to the baseplate) it is likely the unit is NFG. The Power Arc coils have 2.8 ohms resistance so it may tax a point system.

Not good.

tt

fatmatt650 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:00:49 PM »

Quote from: KayOne on March 31, 2014, 04:35:56 PM

Check the static timing LED on the power arc ignition unit. Turn the crank over slowly and see if it lights at TDC. If it does not and there is power to both it and the coil (and a good ground to the baseplate) it is likely the unit is NFG. The Power Arc coils have 2.8 ohms resistance so it may tax a point system.

The light comes on, ground is good, power to it and the coil. I called Cycle Exchange but the guy who knows of such things was not there today. He'll be back in the morning. I'll call him then and see if he concurs and hopefully he can overnight me a new unit.

toytuff · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:25:00 PM »

I guess drink beer and chase women is next.

tt

jpfrk2001 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:09:27 PM »

Damn, Im 450 miles away. I can't go get him. Call insurance Co. for a tow and go chase some skirts.

Made a phone call and my buddy is busy also. I tried

tt

TwoTired · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:38:17 PM »

Quote from: fatmatt650 on March 31, 2014, 04:18:04 PM

Questions - Are my coils good? How can I test for this?

Do you have a multimeter? Or, maybe a test lamp? You just need to check continuity between primary leads and then secondary leads. If the wires inside aren't broken or burned out, they should work.

Quote from: fatmatt650 on March 31, 2014, 04:18:04 PM

- Will stock points and condensor be compatible w/ the Cycle Exchange coils?

Should be. Do you recall the primary resistance rating?

Quote from: fatmatt650 on March 31, 2014, 04:18:04 PM

- Is it really so bad to be stranded in Lake Havasu and surrounded by bikini clad college girls on spring break?

Yes. If you are married and being followed by a P. I.

scottly · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:07:09 PM »

Matt, I probably have all the stock parts, but it would take a day or two to round them up and get them in the mail, and then a day or two to reach you. Would you also need the stud that threads into the crank, or does the power arc use the stock stud?

fatmatt650 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2014, 01:06:36 PM »

Spoke w/ Ken at Cycle Exchange. He believes that my points plate thingy is bad and is overnighting one to me at cost w/ discounted shipping. Oh, well. Another day in paradise. I'm off to the lake to see the sights.

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