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Offline Jimsun

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Tires.
« on: March 30, 2014, 09:18:58 PM »
Hello guys,

I'd like to know your opinion on the following tires., I will be doing casual riding with a lot of leaning but nothing dangerous.

Front:

http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/avon-am6-speedmaster-mark-ii-front-tire.html

Rear:

http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/avon-am26-roadrider-rear-tire.html
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 09:42:48 PM »
The front tire is a waste of money, they are an old design and track badly in any grooves in the road, white lines etc. Get the matching front to the rear tire you have picked, much better option....   Never buy tires because of how they look....

front...   If you want a nice consistent handling bike always try and buy your tires as a matching set... ;)

http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/avon-am26-roadrider-front-tire.html
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 09:44:43 PM by Retro Rocket »
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 09:43:29 PM »
I will be doing casual riding with a lot of leaning but nothing dangerous.

That's generally what I tell my wife before I leave for a ride. haha. I don't have any personal experience with them, but I'm sure you'll be fine with those.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 09:45:27 PM by thirsty 1 »
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 09:44:44 PM »
They are EXCELLENT tires, IMO. I don't ride anything else but Avons on my 750, after trying many, many other brands.

Pirellis aren't bad either, nor are Conti, but the AM26, both front and rear, make a stuck-to-the-pavement feeling underneath you. I usually run the AM26 both front and rear, but the pair you have chosen aren't a bad combo, either.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 09:46:07 PM »
They are EXCELLENT tires, IMO. I don't ride anything else but Avons on my 750, after trying many, many other brands.

Pirellis aren't bad either, nor are Conti, but the AM26, both front and rear, make a stuck-to-the-pavement feeling underneath you. I usually run the AM26 both front and rear, but the pair you have chosen aren't a bad combo, either.

I disagree with his choice of front tire Mark, old design and bad for the reasons i stated earlier... ;)
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 09:53:52 PM »
They are EXCELLENT tires, IMO. I don't ride anything else but Avons on my 750, after trying many, many other brands.

Pirellis aren't bad either, nor are Conti, but the AM26, both front and rear, make a stuck-to-the-pavement feeling underneath you. I usually run the AM26 both front and rear, but the pair you have chosen aren't a bad combo, either.

I disagree with his choice of front tire Mark, old design and bad for the reasons i stated earlier... ;)

Pretty much the old vintage look is garbage and go for the am26 as this seems to be the tires i hear of the most.

Edit:

I was also recommended these following tires. NOT by canadamotorcycle.com but by another site.

We would suggest the IRC GS-11 tires for you. I couldn't find a 3.75X18 anywhere so I priced a 4.00X18 which will fit fine.

3.25X19 $114.95 sale $74.72
4.00X18 $124.95 sale $81.22
Front tube $10.95
Rear tube $9.72

edit 2x:

Is it okay to go full tubeless or it's better to go for the tubed front/back
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 09:57:22 PM by Jimsun »
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 10:09:25 PM »
They are EXCELLENT tires, IMO. I don't ride anything else but Avons on my 750, after trying many, many other brands.

Pirellis aren't bad either, nor are Conti, but the AM26, both front and rear, make a stuck-to-the-pavement feeling underneath you. I usually run the AM26 both front and rear, but the pair you have chosen aren't a bad combo, either.

I disagree with his choice of front tire Mark, old design and bad for the reasons i stated earlier... ;)

I can't disagree with that, for handling. There is one superior thing the ribbed front tires deliver, though: they have increased braking grip from all the cross-cut blocks (which also wear faster). Another side benefit is: they tend to hold a straight line better with all the little blocks and linear ribs, which helps on the 750 in particular with its staggered front-rear wheel lines on the K1-K6 frames.

For the sedate riders, the ribbed tires have been good for the front. But, they run out of tread in a turn before the AM26 rear would, that's for sure!
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 10:17:36 PM »
They are EXCELLENT tires, IMO. I don't ride anything else but Avons on my 750, after trying many, many other brands.

Pirellis aren't bad either, nor are Conti, but the AM26, both front and rear, make a stuck-to-the-pavement feeling underneath you. I usually run the AM26 both front and rear, but the pair you have chosen aren't a bad combo, either.

I disagree with his choice of front tire Mark, old design and bad for the reasons i stated earlier... ;)

I can't disagree with that, for handling. There is one superior thing the ribbed front tires deliver, though: they have increased braking grip from all the cross-cut blocks (which also wear faster). Another side benefit is: they tend to hold a straight line better with all the little blocks and linear ribs, which helps on the 750 in particular with its staggered front-rear wheel lines on the K1-K6 frames.

For the sedate riders, the ribbed tires have been good for the front. But, they run out of tread in a turn before the AM26 rear would, that's for sure!

To decode your quote, get am26 for front/rear unless I want to change tires every so often with the ribbed am6
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 10:23:47 PM »
The front tire is a waste of money, they are an old design and track badly in any grooves in the road, white lines etc. Get the matching front to the rear tire you have picked, much better option....   Never buy tires because of how they look....

front...   If you want a nice consistent handling bike always try and buy your tires as a matching set... ;)

http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/avon-am26-roadrider-front-tire.html


I agree with Retro Rocket completely. Get matching tires.


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Re: Tires.
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 10:24:20 PM »
They are EXCELLENT tires, IMO. I don't ride anything else but Avons on my 750, after trying many, many other brands.

Pirellis aren't bad either, nor are Conti, but the AM26, both front and rear, make a stuck-to-the-pavement feeling underneath you. I usually run the AM26 both front and rear, but the pair you have chosen aren't a bad combo, either.

I disagree with his choice of front tire Mark, old design and bad for the reasons i stated earlier... ;)

I can't disagree with that, for handling. There is one superior thing the ribbed front tires deliver, though: they have increased braking grip from all the cross-cut blocks (which also wear faster). Another side benefit is: they tend to hold a straight line better with all the little blocks and linear ribs, which helps on the 750 in particular with its staggered front-rear wheel lines on the K1-K6 frames.

For the sedate riders, the ribbed tires have been good for the front. But, they run out of tread in a turn before the AM26 rear would, that's for sure!

To decode your quote, get am26 for front/rear unless I want to change tires every so often with the ribbed am6

Retro Rocket has it right: for best handling, match them AM26 front and rear. I really like the nimble feeling those give my 750.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 10:25:45 PM »
Okay matching tires it is.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 11:53:30 PM »
When I started to drive my bike, Dunlop TT100 (K81) was the tire... but the development change my later choices.
I think the tire choice will be different if riding the bike or having a CBXXX exact OEM style with tire design from the 60's.
Metzeler ME99 rear tire from the 80's with matching front tire could be my choice if still produced, but not.

If I had a Norton Commando from the 70's in good shape....TT100/K81 could be the tires front and rear when it is for me a typical English tire.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 01:46:52 AM »
You'll like the roadriders, really nice running tire. Lots of grip and they make the bike feel real nimble in and out of the turns. Really nice in wet weather I find as well.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2014, 11:30:46 AM »
Hey guys, last question.

Is it okay for me to go tubeless for the back and front or do you guys recommend going tube
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2014, 11:45:19 AM »
Your rims will decide that one, if they are mags and are rated tubeless then yes it's fine. If you're running spokes or mags that aren't tubeless you need to run tubes, if you have a mag wheel it should be stamped somewhere on it. Otherwise you need to see the inner profile of the rim with the tire off to determine if its safe.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2014, 10:31:36 PM »
When I started to drive my bike, Dunlop TT100 (K81) was the tire... but the development change my later choices.
I think the tire choice will be different if riding the bike or having a CBXXX exact OEM style with tire design from the 60's.
Metzeler ME99 rear tire from the 80's with matching front tire could be my choice if still produced, but not.

If I had a Norton Commando from the 70's in good shape....TT100/K81 could be the tires front and rear when it is for me a typical English tire.

Boy, I love those TT100/K81 English Dunlops! Too bad they don't make them anymore. I had them on my 750 from 1974 until 1988, they were the absolute best-handling tires on this bike I ever had, especially here in the Rocky Mountains. The modern version is nothing but a copycat tread of the K81 pattern on a standard metric 90 body, no Vee profile, no high-grip rubber.

But, the AM26 is close! It only lacks the sharp vee profile, but holds the line well and grips like nothing else I've found since the TT100.
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Re: Tires.
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 03:08:03 PM »
I also use the Avons front & rear on my 400, but DO NOT use the Honda pressures increase by a minimum of 4psi I believe, I have heard of people using up to nearly 40 in the rear but that was on 750's.
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