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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2014, 09:00:40 PM »
Nice work fenders.
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 09:03:52 AM »
I brought the 3 clips to Fastenal. No luck, they had absolutely nothing!

I have another hardware store to try. Then I may just contact www.mscdirect.com and see if I can ship these out and have them match it?

None of the clips are broken. Somehow, the bottom piston clip came off on one, which tells me that it should be replaced regardless...

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2014, 09:34:36 AM »
Forget hardware, try beaRING, or hydraulic repair/sales places..
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2014, 08:42:23 PM »
My micrometer is only a 0-1" size, so I couldn't use it for this task.

But I did get a decent digital caliper today (Matco). I trust it.



37.42mm is the upper limit of a new stock piston. Mark, looks like the piston measures as new. This is the piston that was stuck in the fork boot (it probably got lodged due to my yanking) and the other one measures the same.

I think we can rule out wear at this point. I won't even bother to go towards the effort of buying a cylinder gauge to measure the bores for this because the piston measures perfectly. VERY fine scratches, yeah, but I believe that's normal.

I stuck my other caliper on it and it measured the same (this other caliper I have is a cheapie and doesn't provide as much resolution, but it measured it at "37.4mm".

Should just be able to replace all of the clips, new seals, and refill them at this point.

Any objections with this process?

What method do you guys use to polish up the fork tubes? They are actually the nicest tubes I've ever seen on a classic bike…dead serious!
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2014, 10:43:30 AM »
Assemble them without seal check for slop...wear, top and bottom.if you don't have clips wire the bushing on.
Clean off the forks with CLEAN. Steel wool..no abrasives.
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2014, 10:52:09 AM »
I have both fine and coarse steel wool. Honestly, i use the corse steel wool for everything. So use steel wool, without polish?

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2014, 11:32:24 AM »
If it's harder than chrome it will scratch it..steel wool can't scratch chrome.
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2014, 02:15:40 PM »
Responses from two bearing stores in town.

"No sorry not something I would have on hand they look to be in decent shape, retaining rings are not generally a wear item I would reuse them if possible
Thanks"

"I'm sorry, we do not carry that type of retaining ring. I could possibly order them but would have to have you bring them by for identification.
Thanks"

A I making a big deal out of these clips? Why don't I just reuse them?

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2014, 03:22:12 PM »
You want to do a Quality job and make sure you won't have the job come back to you later, but if it does you'll know just "how to get the damned things apart"  ;D

I'm shocked that they've been so tough about helping you..,or maybe they just don't speak "Honda" or 'metric' too well  ::) I think you'll find the correct part soon;sometimes I've heard 'NO' from about 18-22 folks until I heard a solid "sure man" & it was Certainly worth the wait !  ;)
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2014, 03:33:26 PM »
I agree.

Well, I took Mark's advice and contacted MSCDirect.com:

"Unfortunately we would not carry those type of clips, you may wish to contact the manufacturer for available parts.
 
Thank you for using MSCDirect.com

Scott
Technical Service Department"


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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2014, 06:16:08 PM »
Fenders,
And now   'on to the next industrial supply place'  ::)  it be nice when you finally score on those parts  ;)
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2014, 07:49:54 PM »
I sure hope you did not go there, without forktube in hand..
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2014, 09:04:30 PM »
I've been emailing these places with pictures of the clips…as posted in thread.

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2014, 07:28:48 AM »
Alright, found some NOS clips on eBay. These are the LARGE clips that sit under the pistons.

The other clips are on eBay, but $10 a piece. I think I am going to reuse my other clips.

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2014, 10:06:36 AM »
I wouldn't think sourcing those from somewhere local would be so difficult;do you think DSS might have the originals ?
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2014, 05:51:33 PM »
DSS is a great source, but they don't carry these either.

However, Ohio Cycle saved the day. I ordered all new clips from them. They are a "mail-in" order service, so it's going to take an additional week to get them, but they are finally secured.

Feel sorry for the next guy rebuilding SL350K0 forks. Good luck on finding these clips!

So my next update should include some assembly pictures.

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2014, 08:08:38 AM »
Good stuff, the waiting sucks but much safer in the end.  ;)

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2014, 03:51:37 PM »
Frank, the tubes themselves, NOT the legs, do not need to be polished, correct?

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2014, 09:54:45 PM »
Depends on the condition of them..
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2014, 10:09:48 PM »
Responses from two bearing stores in town.

"No sorry not something I would have on hand they look to be in decent shape, retaining rings are not generally a wear item I would reuse them if possible
Thanks"

"I'm sorry, we do not carry that type of retaining ring. I could possibly order them but would have to have you bring them by for identification.
Thanks"

A I making a big deal out of these clips? Why don't I just reuse them?

I kinda like it when people say that they can't help out and they get surprised when you're not surprised.
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2014, 07:20:58 PM »
Frank,

Just finger tips and grease….and that one knick that's away from the seal.




Got the NOS clips in. Ready to start assembly….what do you think?

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2014, 10:42:01 PM »
They look good in the. Pic..
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2014, 10:54:54 PM »
DSS is a great source, but they don't carry these either.

However, Ohio Cycle saved the day. I ordered all new clips from them. They are a "mail-in" order service, so it's going to take an additional week to get them, but they are finally secured.

Feel sorry for the next guy rebuilding SL350K0 forks. Good luck on finding these clips!

So my next update should include some assembly pictures.

fenders,
You played the 'waiting game' and came up w/ victory on those OE clips, Yes !  8)
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  I love the small ones too !
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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2014, 03:49:33 PM »
Yea, I rocked it. Got lucky though.

Here's an appetizer. Much more pics to come.



Before/After with some polishing.

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Re: SL350K0 Forks....how to get the damned things apart?
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2014, 06:38:09 PM »

Ready to begin the job. Mac and Jacks beer in hand.


My precious NOS clips. Stay away!

Removal instructions:


Remove large retaining clip


Remove piston. Notice the inner machined grove; it must be put back on this way.


Remove retaining clip.


Remove piston spacer. Notice the machined groove on her as well; these are directional.


Remove the "medium" retaining clip.


Remove the last retaining clip.