Topic: Mini-LED Turn Signals: Winker won't trip!!

[brycegp]

So I am installing my turn signals with new wiring, new signals, new battery, new winker, new turn signal switch....

When I hit the switch the signals light up but don't blink.  I am using mini-led turn signals.  If I hook up the stock signals, it blinks the way it should.  So I have learned that the mini-leds are not drawing enough juice to trip the winker....hence no blinking.  I've tried three different winkers and all have the same issue.

My question is...can I put something between the winker and the light that will cuz a heavier draw on the system so the winker will trip?? 

Any ideas??  Anyone ever had this issue??

Thanks
Bryce

[Patrick]

No, you need to replace your flasher unit with a no-load electronic flasher ($8-10 Autozone). Then the LEDs will flash.

Patrick

[brycegp]

No, you need to replace your flasher unit with a no-load electronic flasher ($8-10 Autozone). Then the LEDs will flash.

Patrick

I bought this one...and it doesn't work.  And effen-A, I thought it WAS electronic....BUT NOOOOOOOooo...its electro-mechanical!!  humph...NOT the same...still load dependent.

And lets say, when I asked for a fully electronic flasher, the auto zone retard was less than knowledgeable about their selection of flashers on the shelf...

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Tridon-Hazard-Warning-Flasher/_/N-9cjeg?counter=1&filterByKeyWord=flasher&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=69839_0_0_

[KingCustomCycles.com]

I like the clear ones so I can see all the nifty electronic gizmos inside and the absence of a bimetalic strip........

[brycegp]

I like the clear ones so I can see all the nifty electronic gizmos inside and the absence of a bimetalic strip........

Would a fully electronic have to have 3 - Battery, ground and load - pins?  Battery + Ground to power the electronic gizmo...and the load pin goes out to the signals???

It seams to me that a two pin flasher can only be load dependent because its just a pass thru.  Or am I just retarded...?

[sixthwisconsin]

No, you need to replace your flasher unit with a no-load electronic flasher ($8-10 Autozone). Then the LEDs will flash.

Patrick

I bought this one...and it doesn't work.  And effen-A, I thought it WAS electronic....BUT NOOOOOOOooo...its electro-mechanical!!  humph...NOT the same...still load dependent.

And lets say, when I asked for a fully electronic flasher, the auto zone retard was less than knowledgeable about their selection of flashers on the shelf...

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Tridon-Hazard-Warning-Flasher/_/N-9cjeg?counter=1&filterByKeyWord=flasher&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=69839_0_0_

Get this one:
EP35
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Tridon-Hazard-Warning-Flasher/_/N-9cjeg?counter=6&itemIdentifier=6415_0_0_

[skamagedon]

No, you need to replace your flasher unit with a no-load electronic flasher ($8-10 Autozone). Then the LEDs will flash.

Patrick
+1

I bought this one...and it doesn't work.  And effen-A, I thought it WAS electronic....BUT NOOOOOOOooo...its electro-mechanical!!  humph...NOT the same...still load dependent.

And lets say, when I asked for a fully electronic flasher, the auto zone retard was less than knowledgeable about their selection of flashers on the shelf...

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Tridon-Hazard-Warning-Flasher/_/N-9cjeg?counter=1&filterByKeyWord=flasher&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=69839_0_0_

Get this one:
EP35
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Tridon-Hazard-Warning-Flasher/_/N-9cjeg?counter=6&itemIdentifier=6415_0_0_

[WarwickE36]

Would a fully electronic have to have 3 - Battery, ground and load - pins?  Battery + Ground to power the electronic gizmo...and the load pin goes out to the signals???

It seams to me that a two pin flasher can only be load dependent because its just a pass thru.  Or am I just retarded...?

You are right.  You need to run a ground to make it work.  Check power at the switch run that to the + terminal, run the other wire to the signal terminal, then make a ground wire and run it to a proper spot.

[popssss]

Guys,

I tried all the tricks...with diodes, and I'm on my 4th flasher, 1 mechanical, one electro-mechanical, and two different LED flashers....NOTHING WORKS.

Someone has to have had this before...if I put one incandescent bulb in with each side, then they blink OK.

I even went to radioshack and matched the resistance of the bulb to that of a bunch of resistors, and still nothing worked.

I am ready to burn the whole thing down.

HELP...
thanks

[jamesb]

cec industries sells the 2 prong led flasher with a ground wire attacmnet  i just bought a couple of them at the swap meet last weekend they are 10.00 dollars

[CB500_k2]

go to superbrightled.com for all that is needed to convert to LED illumination.  they have the LED blinker relays and all sorts Of useful bulbs, even a tail light bulb with plate illumination.  My CBs are all-LED now thanks to them.  I am sure my ancient and marginal charging systems are thankful.

[popssss]

Thanks guys...the flashers at auto zone and other car parts stores don't work...I bought my dash LEDs from these guys, so I guess I'll get the flashers too.

My charging system will be grateful too since I have a 45/55 Headlight instead of the 35/55. 

[aperry]

+1 on the EP35 for $12.  Worked great for my mini-LED turn signals on a 750K3.

I did notice that it only worked when both the front *and* rear turn signals were plugged in.  I had originally been testing with just the front turn signals and it wasn't working.  Plugged the rears in and all of the sudden everything was perfect.  Just something to keep in mind.

Aaron

[That 70s Bike]

...if I put one incandescent bulb in with each side, then they blink OK.

I even went to radioshack and matched the resistance of the bulb to that of a bunch of resistors, and still nothing worked.

if you "bunched" them in "parallel" instead of "series" their values divided instead of adding together. Also your needing the resistance of 2 bulbs/side even if 1 bulb made it blink.
I've read the resistor solution should work, & I believe that's all that is in the gimmick adaptors sold for the same purpose.

[Davez134]

I had to change to LED signals because my filaments on standard bulbs kept burning out (most likely vibration from non factory mounting location) changed all 4 signals, got electronic flasher, ep35 as recommended by you guys in this post. My problem is all 4 flash, can't isolate it to one side flashing only.   1972 CB750, unmodified wiring harness.  Any recommendations?

[bjbuchanan]

The 12$ EP35 should work. I have it on my bike, and many others have used it successfully. You should have a convenient extra ground floating around your battery box that is perfect for a seamless transition from one flasher to the other.

Davez134, you need diodes. Problem is that the low draw plays funny with these circuits. Do a diode on the orange and diode on the blue, in line. Snip and solder it in inside the HL bucket. That will make it play nicely

[Davez134]

Thanks! After a hour or so more of searching, found a couple diagrams. Electrical is not my forte!

[brycegp]

you have to buy an electronic winker.  the two prong mechanical thermal winker will not work with LEDs...they don't draw enough power to trip it...

[Davez134]

you have to buy an electronic winker.  the two prong mechanical thermal winker will not work with LEDs...they don't draw enough power to trip it...

Had the right relay, diodes were the problem, needed them in line with turn signal indicator light. All is right in the world now, thanks!


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[tommy_k]

Ok guys I have been following this post and I think I know what I need to do.

I bought this from superbrightleds.com:
http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/motorcycle-accessories/lf1-s-pin-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/193/841/


Using these turns:
http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-lighting-parts-arrow-decco-style-chrome-clear-turn-signals-blinkers-26-6227.html






I am loosing my mind trying to get this to work! also specs on the diodes would help, thanks!

[Bodi]

You do not need to add those diodes - the LEDs are diodes so putting in extra ones in series is pointless.
If you have a single signal "idiot light" (ie in the speedo), some changes are needed when converting it to an LED - but otherwise you just have to:
1) replace signal lamps with LED type (either replacement bulbs or complete units)
2) install a 3-terminal electronic flasher like the EP35.
Note the EP35 is "load sensing" and uses an alternate flash rate when less than 2 normal lamp loads are present - like with LED signals (this is supposed to warn a driver that a bulb has burnt out). I find the faster "alternate" flashing rate is better than "normal" anyway - more attention-grabbing.