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Friends, Definition Varies
« on: April 08, 2014, 07:40:30 PM »

      Yeah, I mean there are ALL kinds of friends.

     There are "Fair Weather" Friends, There are Friends who will stick with you through
     "Thick and Thin", though even THAT type, had different definitions too.
     There are those Friends "Who will be there for you, no matter what" But, if something comes up (and it usually does), then Sorry....

     Then, there are those friends who will not only Be There for you, but will do so, without thinking twice and they don't make you feel like you owe them and arm and a leg!
    These people will bend over backwards to help when the need arises and try to keep you from compensating, when you try to do so, in any way. These folks are worth their 
    weight in gold. AND, they are a joy to be around, because they will NEVER try to make you feel like you owe them. Real friends help because they Want To and because they   
    Can.

    Okay, I have had my say, this was bugging me, because we called on a friend to ask for an assist, the friend said sure. So, when we should have gotten that assist with an 
    issue, we were told, oh, something came up! Really? And it was done so casually. A person's Word Should Mean Something, but too often, it doesn't. Sad.       
   
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 01:40:50 PM »
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 04:19:36 PM »
Very true bill


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        Hey Mark, hope things are well with you all.  ;)
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 12:15:11 AM »
I broke down about 3 or 4 hours from home in January this year.  Hitched a ride, hired a car, came home got a trailer and went back to get my bike.
My mate was a bit surprised (slightly annoyed) I didn't phone him to come and get me.  I didn't think of it at the time, but once he mentioned that to me I realised it made sence and I would have done the same for him.
If he needs something and I'm busy and can't answer the phone he will call me twice straight away and then I know to stop what I'm doing and answer it.  It has only happened once, so I stopped what I was doing went and got his trailer and went to pick him up.

Couple of hours out of one day is never going to be life changing but it helps a mate so why not

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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 04:20:26 AM »
I have another mate that I spent 3 full days working at his house. No charge as he is a mate.
I asked him on two separate occasions to help me, both times he couldn't so I didn't ask again.
We are still good mates but I guess he has different ideas as to what is important and both times I asked for help I guess he was busy. (I needed his crane so it makes sense that he may have needed it else where)

Bill I hope the next time a friend says he will help you that he actually means it. A persons word is very important to most people I think. But maybe less so than it used to be.

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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 08:51:27 AM »
I broke down about 3 or 4 hours from home in January this year.  Hitched a ride, hired a car, came home got a trailer and went back to get my bike.
My mate was a bit surprised (slightly annoyed) I didn't phone him to come and get me.  I didn't think of it at the time, but once he mentioned that to me I realised it made sence and I would have done the same for him.
If he needs something and I'm busy and can't answer the phone he will call me twice straight away and then I know to stop what I'm doing and answer it.  It has only happened once, so I stopped what I was doing went and got his trailer and went to pick him up.

Couple of hours out of one day is never going to be life changing but it helps a mate so why not

Scott

            Yeah, sometimes, when the Urgency is there, we simply formulate a plan and go with it (sometimes, a more simple solution, with help of a friend, is overlooked and could happen to anyone)

I have another mate that I spent 3 full days working at his house. No charge as he is a mate.
I asked him on two separate occasions to help me, both times he couldn't so I didn't ask again.
We are still good mates but I guess he has different ideas as to what is important and both times I asked for help I guess he was busy. (I needed his crane so it makes sense that he may have needed it else where)

Bill I hope the next time a friend says he will help you that he actually means it. A persons word is very important to most people I think. But maybe less so than it used to be.

Scott

       That's too bad, about that one, I don't know if it is different values or just not thinking. I can see where SOME times, it could be a person not REALLY realizing the urgencu or importance of help needed.   Thank you, Scott, I hope the next time we need an assist, we are able to get it.   I completely understand IF someone couldn't help, but in the case, that started all of this, it wasn't THAT bad. I really don't think that SOME folks fully appreciate what an "Obligation" is. If Iagree or offer to give an assist, it is going to have to REALLY be a Have To Case, for me NOT to go through with MY Obligation.         
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2014, 10:50:47 AM »


   Here is an example of the way I operate:

           While I was living in Georgia, last year, a buddy had his water pump go out on hid minivan. He had made it to work, so left the van there that afternoon, His father-in-law picked him up and took him to a parts store to get the water pump. Had to order it. So, my buddy was able to use his father-in-law's truck to get to work til his water pump came in. His in-laws seemed to be helping him out, so I didn't offer. But then, when the water pump came in, my Wife told me that my buddy was going to replace the water pump that afternoon, after work, but his phone service had run out, so if there was a problem, he would have to walk or hitch a ride home, leaving the van there again. I looked at her and said, "That is Nuts" and told her I was going to get a tow dolley, go get him and his van and bring them back home, so IF there WAS a problem, he would at least be home along with his van. His father-in-law COULD HAVE DONE the same thing. I was kicking myself though, for not thinking of this sooner and helping him myself. Anyway, get this, I didn't know where he worked and the only one who knew, was his "Father-In-Law"! Yeah, and this man went with me, to get him and his van. And, the first thing my buddy's father-in-law said to me, when he got in my car, was "How Did You Get Roped Into Doing This?" Yeah,  He actually thought I had to be like "Hogtied", to HAVE TO do this!!!!!! I looked at him and simply said, "I am doing this, Because I Want To. Roy's MY Friend And Need Help!" "Simple As That." The man had a puzzled look on his face and said "Oh". Yeah, like a Friend is supposed to have to be "Hogtied" into helping a Friend?" So, that was the last of THAT conversation and I had less of an opinion of that man that man.   ::)

        So, anyway we got there (and I realized that where Roy was, wasn't that hard to find and I could have done without my passenger.  So, when I pulled up, Roy was really happy to see me, as the parts place had ordered the wrong pump and he was getting ready to walk home. We positioned my car and the trailer, in front of his van, he started it up and drove on the dolley, we secured it and then, his father-in-law starts up with: You sure this car can pull this or not? The door on the van are going to get bent up, when turns are made!  I mean, REALLY?  We both told him there was and would be No Problem! This man wasn't involved with this at all, except making a big deal about knowing exactly where Roy was. And I, in fact, had been in that basic area and where Roy worked, was only about 2 or 3 blocks from where I knew about. So, we got him home and the first thing that happened was, the father-in-law jumped out of my car, ran back to check the van and returned with a puzzled look on his face, saying that there wasn't any damage!  :-X  Roy told him, he knew there wouldn't be, to back off and stay out of the way. I told the whole deal, to show what Roy had to deal with, with his father-in-law, when he had any assistance from Him at all (and THIS time, all he was there for, was to show me where Roy was). Roy and I both were wishing the man wasn't even there.

       Roy didn't have anyone else he could count on, he hated to ask me, because he knew we had alot going, but at least, I realized that I could help the situation and did it, just like I KNOW he would do the same for me, as much as he possibly could.  In fact, when he wasn't working, he made several trips with me while I was moving things from Arkansas to Georgia, when I went by my Dad's place, he helped with my Dad's lawn and such. When we were moving things out of my old home in Arkansas And getting ready to make the move BACK to Arkansas, Roy was there! I can't say enough about how much he has helped me and I ill do EVERYTHING I can, to help him, as HE needs it. 

       REAL Friends are Very Special and just can't say enough about that.  ;)

      I have some Really good friends here as well and I Know that IF we lived closer to each other, we would each be there for each other. I have NO doubt about that.

      A few years back,  I was looking to get a Jawa 250 engine shipped to me, that I bought off of ebay and suddenly "kirkn", offered to pick it up, since it wasn't but an hour or so away from him and then, "jtb" had a buddy who was going to Florida and he picked up the engine and brought it back to Alabama to John (jtb), who turned around and offered to bring it to Memphis and meet me at the Cracker Barrel there. Awesome Outpouring of Assistance!!!!!! We got the engine and the chance to meet John (jtb) in person.

     I mean, there are several instances where SOHC4 folks have either helped me out behind the scenes or even in person. I won't go into details, but, cb650 (Terry), Ilbikes (Gordon), MickeyX, Sam, mlinder, jeylux, 6packrunner, aptech77, hondaman, kcs76cafe, member named okie, actually gave me almost a complete Honda CB77 Super Hawk (in parts), because he knew I was searching for parts and he told me that IF I would come and get them, he would give them to me.   and possibly more have helped me, in one way or another. I apologize if I have missed anyone and the order in which I have put the names, has nothing to do with importance or anything.      I am SO Grateful for ALL of the friends I have here, Period! Thank you to ALL of you.   8)  ;)     
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 02:15:19 PM »
My grandfather always told me and my buddies that you would be a lucky man if you had 2-3 "friends" that you could really count on when we got older.

The older you get, the more people you know - and damned if he wasn't right.   I have about 3 guys that I know would move heaven and earth for me,

and I for them.   Rare qualities, that shouldn't be.
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2014, 02:33:49 PM »
I have a friend who lives not all that far away but due to work schedules the 2 of us have drifted and pretty much lost contact. About 2 weeks ago his 18 year old son got killed in a car wreck and when I heard the news I felt that I should go see him if for anything just to give him a shoulder to cry on. Nobody was home which I guess is a good thing because I had absolutely no clue what I would've said to make him or his wife feel better. My wife and I did go to the funeral but I can tell you that when something traumatic happens to a friend, even an old one you haven't seen in a while, their pain/grief still hits you square in the heart.
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Re: Friends, Definition Varies
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 09:16:16 PM »
My grandfather always told me and my buddies that you would be a lucky man if you had 2-3 "friends" that you could really count on when we got older.

The older you get, the more people you know - and damned if he wasn't right.   I have about 3 guys that I know would move heaven and earth for me,

and I for them.   Rare qualities, that shouldn't be.

       Your Grandfather was a pretty smart guy alright. Lot of folks like to say their friends, Brothers, or whatever, but when the chips are down, they are out of sight or for some reason, just can't seem to be there for ya. Got I can't say enough, about 4 Friends I have, they have helped me So muich and I return the favor (sometimes, before I am in need too!

      Then, there are several who will take the time to chat, if they see me out or if they have called about someone we know, who has passed away or something like that and then they fade into the woodwork and I don't see or hear from them for a long time, if ever again.


I have a friend who lives not all that far away but due to work schedules the 2 of us have drifted and pretty much lost contact. About 2 weeks ago his 18 year old son got killed in a car wreck and when I heard the news I felt that I should go see him if for anything just to give him a shoulder to cry on. Nobody was home which I guess is a good thing because I had absolutely no clue what I would've said to make him or his wife feel better. My wife and I did go to the funeral but I can tell you that when something traumatic happens to a friend, even an old one you haven't seen in a while, their pain/grief still hits you square in the heart.

            Definitely, if there IS a connection, it WILL affect you, when a friend suffers a loss like that. It really is sad how friends and Family, for that matter, can drift apart. 

         I have a Cousin who has come back into my life, who actually was and still is, my Favorite Cousin and her Mom is my Favorite Aunt. Not exactly sure why we drifted apart, but it happened years ago and now my Cousin is a Grandmother!!!!! Amazing how time can get away from us. We are making up for lost time now.
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