Author Topic: 1972 CB750 Steampunk(ish) Bobber Thing (Read 212407 times)

calj737 · « **Reply #475 on:** June 02, 2014, 05:23:43 pm »

In lieu of initiating a rusty patina, might I suggest a copper plate that would oxidize under an acid wash, which you could then clear coat and stabilize? Might be a tad pricey, but if you bought new plated spokes, then stripped them, then copper plated them in a DIY fashion, you could control the costs as well use the technique on some other elements.

Look what I caught while fishing!

70CB750 · « **Reply #476 on:** June 02, 2014, 05:28:53 pm »

Since it is your ass on the line, go ahead, reuse those spokes

If you are building for riding, you dont want to doubt your spokes. If it's just for show, you will be fine.

Honestly, spokes brake. Rusted spokes are more likely to break. You can patina new spokes to be reasonably safe. When spoke brakes, bad things can happen.

70CB750 · « **Reply #477 on:** June 02, 2014, 05:31:00 pm »

Quote from: calj737 on June 02, 2014, 05:23:43 pm

In lieu of initiating a rusty patina, might I suggest a copper plate that would oxidize under an acid wash, which you could then clear coat and stabilize? Might be a tad pricey, but if you bought new plated spokes, then stripped them, then copper plated them in a DIY fashion, you could control the costs as well use the technique on some other elements.

Look what I caught while fishing!

Cal, I thought you were older

calj737 · « **Reply #478 on:** June 02, 2014, 05:37:46 pm »

Nope. But some threads on this forum are aging me prematurely ;-) it's why I'm also in support of Noddy doing what he wants to his bike. I'm a Peter Pan sort of guy... Or kid. Dang, blew my cover

Truthfully, my fish in the hands of my 3rd of 4 kids. He's a heck of an outdoorsman in his own right. And he'd probably dig this build as he can disassemble anything in less time than you can imagine, and I mean to the smallest component level. I've put a lock on the tool shed by the way.

DustyRags · « **Reply #479 on:** June 02, 2014, 05:39:43 pm »

Eh, I'd vote against the rusted spokes. To me, rust smacks of neglect, not nice patina. What about painting (or powder coating) them brown? That would still keep in the color palette, but wouldn't have the rusty aspects of it.

I like the idea of greenish copper spokes too, but that might be a lot of copper. What about black wrinkle paint, something that'll read like cast iron?

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #480 on:** June 02, 2014, 07:09:17 pm »

Quote from: calj737 on June 02, 2014, 05:23:43 pm

In lieu of initiating a rusty patina, might I suggest a copper plate that would oxidize under an acid wash, which you could then clear coat and stabilize? Might be a tad pricey, but if you bought new plated spokes, then stripped them, then copper plated them in a DIY fashion, you could control the costs as well use the technique on some other elements.

Look what I caught while fishing!

Steamed fish...?

calj737 · « **Reply #481 on:** June 02, 2014, 07:38:20 pm »

That was a piss at the earlier fishing comments. It was over my head, so the best I could do. Must be an Oz thing that escaped this dimwit in the states

Noddy78 · « **Reply #482 on:** June 02, 2014, 09:36:27 pm »

Quote from: Mcwilliams570 on June 02, 2014, 04:34:47 pm

Yeah I wouldn't use those rims but the spokes I would use no problem I am a cheap bastard though

...or a very brave one! I snapped about of a quarter of them getting them off. I did have the thought that I might be able to reuse them, but they're a bit too far gone.

Quote from: DustyRags on June 02, 2014, 05:39:43 pm

To me, rust smacks of neglect, not nice patina.

Fair enough. I think it will work in the context I'm thinking, but who knows, fun to try! The Japanese have actually been practicing the art of patination for centuries, they craft rust and oxidisation etc as both a decorative and protective coating for various metals in sword-making and so forth. So, it could also smack of entirely the opposite, depends on how you look at it!

70CB750 · « **Reply #483 on:** June 03, 2014, 03:23:26 am »

This is the correct tool to remove spokes from a wheel:

Just saying - for the next wheel.

Stev-o · « **Reply #484 on:** June 03, 2014, 06:28:53 am »

For any SteamPunk project, a nice rusty set of bolt cutters would come in handy....just saying

DustyRags · « **Reply #485 on:** June 03, 2014, 07:26:32 am »

Steve-O is dead on.

PLEASE post a pic of you taking bolt cutters to that bike! It'll send half this forum into apoplexis, and we'll get some peace and quiet around here

754 · « **Reply #486 on:** June 03, 2014, 09:00:25 am »

If you get spokes made of corten steel , your wish would come true..

Noddy78 · « **Reply #487 on:** June 03, 2014, 02:54:24 pm »

Quote from: 754 on June 03, 2014, 09:00:25 am

If you get spokes made of corten steel , your wish would come true..

Yep, I wonder if Buchannons can do custom CORTEN spokes.

I reckon normal steel with a light coat of surface rust will be ok though. I've got a few acquaintances in the science field that might know someone or other that could do some integrity tests on a sample perhaps. Dunno, still got to figure out what rims I'm going to use yet...

DustyRags · « **Reply #488 on:** June 03, 2014, 03:06:57 pm »

Oooooh! You know what'd be cool? Silver plate them, tarnish them, and then mostly-clean them to get that tarnished-in-the-corners look. Then just clear-coat. Boom!

Noddy78 · « **Reply #489 on:** June 03, 2014, 10:24:25 pm »

Oooo, fun things in the mail...

The second one has already been pretty bastardised by someone, so I'm going to have to learn to un-braze too...

Stev-o · « **Reply #490 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:49:53 am »

I would think if you can Steampunk Braze, then you could Steampunk Unbraze?

Noddy78 · « **Reply #491 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:53:09 am »

Apparently it's just a case of heating it back up and hitting with a wire brush and/or compressed air. I think the Steampunking is optional.

dave500 · « **Reply #492 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:16:27 am »

RoboCop - A new toy, can I play?

KrautKoffin · « **Reply #493 on:** June 04, 2014, 07:18:52 am »

Lol at the unbrazing. Previous steampunker was a dimwit too.

edwardmorris · « **Reply #494 on:** June 04, 2014, 09:45:31 am »

Noddy, how far out of the question is going fully custom on wheels? Wheels like the front one here MIGHT just look nice enough, maybe mock it up in photoshop?

Noddy78 · « **Reply #495 on:** June 05, 2014, 01:18:09 am »

Quote from: KrautKoffin on June 04, 2014, 07:18:52 am

Lol at the unbrazing. Previous steampunker was a dimwit too.

When did you get back from the For Sale thread? I thought you were hanging out there to see my bike again...? Regardless, it's really great to have you back on board, I missed the wit and insight of the intellectual giant you clearly are, it really brought some much-needed levity and diversity to the thread.

Quote from: edwardmorris on June 04, 2014, 09:45:31 am

Noddy, how far out of the question is going fully custom on wheels?

Not entirely out of the question, though I think those particular ones might be getting a bit over-the-top. I still want it to be pretty much a motorcycle, just with the inclinations of Steampunk. Big brass wheels are getting a bit too cartoonish for me. Yes, we know Terry/Retro/Whoever, as far as you're concerned it's all cartoonish bolt-on stupidity. Moving on...

70CB750 · « **Reply #496 on:** June 05, 2014, 03:06:42 am »

I would rather think that Böhmerland fits the Steampunk idea, only it's real.

http://www.yesterdays.nl/b%C3%B6hmerland-1936-600cc-p-2270.html

edwardmorris · « **Reply #497 on:** June 05, 2014, 08:26:35 am »

No worries Noddy, if you're going just for inclinations, lets hope most of that 750 remains intact for the next owner

@Terry, I totally agree, kinda what I suggested early on in the thread too http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=136511.msg1540122#msg1540122

DustyRags · « **Reply #498 on:** June 05, 2014, 10:10:26 am »

Terry- probably for the same reason the rest of us like modern(ish) Japanese machines- cheap, easy to fix, stone cold reliable, part availability, etc, etc.

(note- I understand that "cheap" and "part availability" is going to vary, but around here, the old Enfields are much harder to find than 70's Japanese iron.)

dave500 · « **Reply #499 on:** June 06, 2014, 11:29:22 pm »

arrgh me mateys,here be yet another treasure from the dave500 trove,it be a compass/helm/ashtray,a fitting component for the finest steampunk machine,with this rare piece of booty youll be the envy of all steam pirates arrgh!

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