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Offline AndrewBainbridge

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1979 CB 750 f2 Carb Clean Noob Question
« on: April 29, 2014, 11:04:55 AM »
Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum and this is my first restoration/rebuild. 

I've got a 1979 CB750 f2.  I've taken the carbs off and am trying to give them a through clean.  The bike was starting (only off the kick not the electric ignition for some reason?) but was cutting out whenever i released the throttle.  So I thought I'd start with the carbs and go from there. 

Once I'd taken them apart I noticed a few things missing. Most of which I can pick up in a carb rebuild kit.  But this one thing has got me a bit worried.

My carbs look exactly like this fellas: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=57379.msg620853#msg620853

This is carb number 4 : http://imgur.com/VGz0ydw,jRWgA5a#0 which looks like most of the others.

Carb number 3 is here.  This is the carb with the air cut valve on the other end.  I've taken the cylinder and needle out already: http://imgur.com/VGz0ydw,jRWgA5a#1

in this pic its clearly missing the metal arm piece on the left that allows the hexagonal bolt to screw onto the tightening flathead screw.  As a result the cylinder and pin came off far more easily than the others.  I'm just wondering if this is common or if I'm missing a piece and if it will seriously effect operation?  Would I have to brake apart the carbs to repair it? (I'm kind of amazed anyone could be bothered to do that in the first place just to cannibalise this specific part)

Any advice or info would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks in advance.

Andrew

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Re: 1979 CB 750 f2 Carb Clean Noob Question
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2014, 02:39:41 PM »
Welcome Andrew.

Give the search function a try as carbs are a pretty frequent topic around here. As for missing parts, message member harisuluv, he should have pretty much all the missing parts you need, or better yet, he can rebuild your carbs for you in you don't want to mess with them. There are a few ways to clean them, as I'm learning now doing my own. Safer approaches would be soda blasting or ultrasonic cleaning. I tried the latter and had good results. Carb dips should be avoided if you want to prevent discoloration. There's tons more info on these boards, you'll just need to search ;)

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Re: 1979 CB 750 f2 Carb Clean Noob Question
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 02:53:41 PM »
Hi Andrew.

The carb you are referring to is #2. We count 1-4 from the left as you sit on the bike. It is the carb that has the accelerator pump, and the slide is not adjustable like the others. #2 carb is the 'control' carb from which the other three are synched. I'm not so sure you do have some parts missing, but if so you will need to source them first and make sure your carbs are properly clean before you can troubleshoot your running problem. Have a look at the fiche and photos of others on this forum. Welcome by the way, nice to see another UK member!
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 03:17:02 PM by oldskoolnuts »
Build threads:
77 750F2 Refresh Project http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=144075.0
TRIBSA http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,160296.0.html

1977 CB750 F2
1958 Norton Model 99
2011 Triumph Street Triple 675

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Re: 1979 CB 750 f2 Carb Clean Noob Question
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 03:57:54 PM »
Yeah those are 78 carbs.  79 should be CV carbs.

As stated the carb in issue is not like the others, it's not adjustable.

If it slipped off you probably are missing a spring which you will find on the others, it helps keep tension so it is less prone to come apart.

Also, your carb has no air cut off valves, you have only an accelerator pump on #2.

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Re: 1979 CB 750 f2 Carb Clean Noob Question
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2014, 08:36:22 AM »
Guys thanks so much for the info!! I was holding on to the hope that carb 2 was meant to be different and its a relief to have it confirmed. 

Sorry for getting the numbering wrong, I saw a vid on youtube where they mentioned it being numbered from the right hand side because of it being a Japanese motor ...

I've been spraying and polishing them up so hopefully I will be able to see how the bike runs with a cleaned set soon. 

Thanks again guys. 


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Re: 1979 CB 750 f2 Carb Clean Noob Question
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2014, 03:00:44 PM »
While you have the carbs off it's worth doing them properly, otherwise when you come to tuning you will soon become an expert at taking them off again and again. Take the time to use the search function and also read the FAQ to understand how your carbs work. Spray cleaner may well prove the passageways are clear, but will unlikely remove years of dried up crud and varnish that may be blocking the jets. The fact that it doesn't idle could be down to a combination of things, so it's important to rule out what you can.

At a minimum, I would remove the main jets and pilots and clean them thoroughly. The pilots are a push fit, and have tiny holes in the end that are impossible to verify as clear without removal. Blocked pilots will have a significant effect on your idle. You will also need to verify that the accelerator pump is working correctly, that your needles are set to the correct height (some are adjustable, some are not - next time you post give us the numbers on the carb body), and that the brass restrictors - located in the fuel lines linking each carb - are clear. Then there's ensuring the float needle valves are seating correctly and float heights are in spec. Sounds intimidating, and that's not an exhaustive list, but there are many threads on here that will guide you through the process, time spent now will prove an investment for the future.
Build threads:
77 750F2 Refresh Project http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=144075.0
TRIBSA http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,160296.0.html

1977 CB750 F2
1958 Norton Model 99
2011 Triumph Street Triple 675