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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2015, 08:11:37 pm »
The photos didn't work from my computer but here it is from my phone, probably not that great of quality

Looks like some KW and M3 Racing goodies.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2015, 08:15:10 pm »
Right you are ;) I'm patiently waiting for the rest of parts, despite ordering them almost 3 months ago.. Then the real fun begins. :D


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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2015, 04:20:27 pm »
More stuff came in the mail today, woo!!

Still to come are the important motor bits so I can get started on the machining



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Re: CB750 K1 Project - RideTech Question
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2015, 12:06:09 pm »
I just had a brief exchange with Matt at RideRACE Tech. Top-notch company, expensive as all get out... Which I think puts their very effective suspension out of my budget. That may get added to the list of "daydream" parts that I wish to obtain someday. For now I think I'll do a basic rebuild on the setup I currently have. Their fork rebuild setup wasn't insanely priced, only outside of the current funding. Their rear shocks are awesome, piggy back style starts at $1300 though...  :o

Who out there employ RideTech on their ride and how are you finding it so far? I might end up sacrificing on other parts that I wanted to build in order to do the front forks if I can be convinced that it's worth it.

More stuff comes from the powder coaters soon, see picture of in process parts below!

Edit: I meant Race Tech, not Ride Tech. I changed the post so as not to confuse anyone else...
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2015, 12:07:45 pm »




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Re: CB750 K1 Project - RideTech Question
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2015, 12:57:20 pm »
I just had a brief exchange with Matt at RideTech. Top-notch company, expensive as all get out... Which I think puts their very effective suspension out of my budget. That may get added to the list of "daydream" parts that I wish to obtain someday. For now I think I'll do a basic rebuild on the setup I currently have. Their fork rebuild setup wasn't insanely priced, only outside of the current funding. Their rear shocks are awesome, piggy back style starts at $1300 though...  :o

Who out there employ RideTech on their ride and how are you finding it so far? I might end up sacrificing on other parts that I wanted to build in order to do the front forks if I can be convinced that it's worth it.

More stuff comes from the powder coaters soon, see picture of in process parts below!

Justin,

Do you mean Ride Tech or Race Tech?  I though Ride Tech only did suspension systems for cars and utvs.

I have Race Tech springs and gold valve emulators in both my 750 and 550 bikes.  In my opinion, they greatly improve the stock suspension.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2015, 02:13:42 pm »
Yeah, if $1,300 is your price-point, go for the Fox shocks.  They now make them with the clevis bottom mounts!

Works will run you about the same, and they custom build them for your weight, etc.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB750 K1 Project - RaceTech Question
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2015, 02:55:08 pm »
I just had a brief exchange with Matt at RideTech. Top-notch company, expensive as all get out... Which I think puts their very effective suspension out of my budget. That may get added to the list of "daydream" parts that I wish to obtain someday. For now I think I'll do a basic rebuild on the setup I currently have. Their fork rebuild setup wasn't insanely priced, only outside of the current funding. Their rear shocks are awesome, piggy back style starts at $1300 though...  :o

Who out there employ RideTech on their ride and how are you finding it so far? I might end up sacrificing on other parts that I wanted to build in order to do the front forks if I can be convinced that it's worth it.

More stuff comes from the powder coaters soon, see picture of in process parts below!

Justin,

Do you mean Ride Tech or Race Tech?  I though Ride Tech only did suspension systems for cars and utvs.

I have Race Tech springs and gold valve emulators in both my 750 and 550 bikes.  In my opinion, they greatly improve the stock suspension.


Race Tech, I definitely got mixed up... I meant Race Tech
Should I be putting Race Tech gold valve emulators in the factory forks?

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2015, 03:02:42 pm »
Cal,how much of a kickback do you get from cognito?....lol
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2015, 03:08:07 pm »
Save yourself some $ and grab a set of these!
http://cognitomoto.com/collections/suspension/products/fox-podium-rc1-rear-shocks

Or these-
http://cognitomoto.com/collections/suspension/products/fox-podium-r-rear-shocks

I think $1300 is about 10x more than I wanted to spend on new shocks, but what do I know about buying them?
Race Tech custom makes them for my weight and riding style and some other factors, but that's a lot of bones to throw down.. I'm almost out of things to sell to keep funding this project!!! There's still quite a bit that needs attention before I can get spendy...

Those FOX shocks look bloody great, I really dig that piggyback shock look.

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2015, 03:12:08 pm »
Another question on the side: What do you gents blokes know about no number exhaust from Yamiya?  ;D

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2015, 04:19:35 pm »
Yeah, if $1,300 is your price-point, go for the Fox shocks.  They now make them with the clevis bottom mounts!

Works will run you about the same, and they custom build them for your weight, etc.
$700 and $1,000 Don... He only charges you $1,300  ;)
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2015, 04:20:14 pm »
Cal,how much of a kickback do you get from cognito?....lol
Just enough to cover the expenses of fixing your bike, Duster-  :P
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2015, 05:53:20 pm »
Yeah, if $1,300 is your price-point, go for the Fox shocks.  They now make them with the clevis bottom mounts!

Works will run you about the same, and they custom build them for your weight, etc.
$700 and $1,000 Don... He only charges you $1,300  ;)

Haha. I meant that if Justin is thinking about spending near the $1300 for Race Tech shocks, he should save the coin and buy a Fox or Works. It just came out as clear as mud.

Yes, Justin, the Race Tech springs and emulators go into the stock tubes. The emulators attach to the stock damper rods.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2015, 06:06:31 pm »
Yeah, if $1,300 is your price-point, go for the Fox shocks.  They now make them with the clevis bottom mounts!

Works will run you about the same, and they custom build them for your weight, etc.
$700 and $1,000 Don... He only charges you $1,300  ;)

Haha. I meant that if Justin is thinking about spending near the $1300 for Race Tech shocks, he should save the coin and buy a Fox or Works. It just came out as clear as mud.

Yes, Justin, the Race Tech springs and emulators go into the stock tubes. The emulators attach to the stock damper rods.

Forgive me, Don, I'm not well versed on the internals of the forks... Somewhere, back in the day, the PO changed my front end (and swingarm...) on my 71 to a 78F front end with the Comstar wheels and double disc setup up front and disc brake out the back.
Matt gave me a quick and dirty on the front end setup he recommends but he reckons it ought to be $725 for the parts to properly rebuild my 78 forks.. You've obviously done it before, what all are you recommending? I think eventually, maybe after saving up for a while I can afford the full race tech setup but the necessities are dwindling my spending money on this bike and I'm very anxious to get working on it so I can ride it again.

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2015, 10:13:02 pm »
Hmm.
Approx. $120 for new fork tubes
$140 for new Race Tech springs matched for your weight
$200 for Gold Valve Emulators and Adaptors
$10 for fork oil
$20 for fork seals
$35 for dust seals

I'm not sure what other parts they were including with the quote or labor, but $725 seems high
I purchase my springs and emulators through one of their dealers (no shipping and better pricing)

1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2015, 10:24:42 pm »
Hmm.
Approx. $120 for new fork tubes
$140 for new Race Tech springs matched for your weight
$200 for Gold Valve Emulators and Adaptors
$10 for fork oil
$20 for fork seals
$35 for dust seals

I'm not sure what other parts they were including with the quote or labor, but $725 seems high
I purchase my springs and emulators through one of their dealers (no shipping and better pricing)

The only difference between my price and the ones you show are that I was pointed toward the FTNK 0050547 TNK fork tubes 35-585mm to match the ones I have (forks are from 78F) and they're $183.25 each one, total $366.50 for the pair.
Otherwise you and I came up with the same cost. Where are you looking for the fork tubes?

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« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2015, 11:20:07 pm »
Cycle X.  I got mine from Forking by Frank for less than the TNK tubes (overkill).  Cycle X sells standard 77-78 tubes for $120 (http://www.cyclexchange.net/fork_tubes_and_accessories.htm).
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2015, 04:41:06 am »
That $120 for tubes is a per tube price right, Don? Franks charges about $350-$400 with shipping if memory serves me correctly.
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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2015, 07:39:53 am »
That $120 for tubes is a per tube price right, Don? Franks charges about $350-$400 with shipping if memory serves me correctly.

It says set on the website, I think that's the per set price. Sorry to answer for Don

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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2015, 12:04:57 pm »
That $120 for tubes is a per tube price right, Don? Franks charges about $350-$400 with shipping if memory serves me correctly.

It says set on the website, I think that's the per set price. Sorry to answer for Don

Cycle X is $120 per pair.
Forking by Frank charges $296 ($278 for fork tubes and $18 for shipping)
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2015, 03:19:23 pm »
Yes!! More stuff!
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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2015, 06:08:36 pm »
He makes really great quality side covers -- and much less of a wait than LPM.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline Justin

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Re: CB750 K1 Project
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2015, 09:23:36 pm »
I was surprised by the sturdy construction of the new covers. Comparing them to my originals they're heavier and feel quite stout


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