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Offline Jayelwin

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Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« on: May 06, 2014, 06:34:59 pm »
So I was riding on my '75 CB750 with 30k miles when I shifted up into 4th and when I twisted the throttle I was in neutral. Clutch in and firm up shift and then was in 4th. It happened twice and both times it was when I wasn't so aggressive about torquing my foot up hard. Is this normal? I've ridden many motorcycles and this is the first time I've ever found a neutral between two gears that weren't first and second. Googled it and found an occasional comment on some thumper forums, one ural forum and one duc forum. No good answers.

Should I worry? Just shift up harder?


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Re: Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2014, 08:04:35 pm »
I've done this a few times with my dads 750. It only happens when I wear my skate shoes, but with my boots I've never done it. I think it's because the squish in the shoe makes it so you don't actually bring the lever up enough. Whenever I ride with my shoes I just pull up farther and I haven't had an issue since.
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Re: Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 05:17:53 am »
I'm all for shifting harder. But since this never happened to me on any other bike I was wondering if it was indicative of a problem.
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Offline 70CB750

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Re: Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2014, 05:49:22 am »
Just the shifting mechanism is bit worn, that's all.  I can find neutral anywhere I want to on my K0, sometimes it comes handy, like a cruising down from Skyline drive, I put it in neutral between 4 and 5 and just enjoy the quiet glide :)

I remember Hondaman mentioned somewhere what actually causes it - worn out section of the shifting drum if I remember correctly.
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Re: Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 10:39:30 am »
It's not an exclusive problem to Hondas. I've had it happen on lots of bikes of different makes. If you're used to riding modern bikes, it might seem like a problem but as said it's usually down to cumulative wear in the transmission. You soon learn to live with it and avoid that embarrassing screaming throttle in between gears!
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Re: Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 10:44:06 am »
If it was purely a function of my footwork, i'd adjust the shift lever down (counterclockwise) one notch...
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Re: Hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2014, 01:00:28 pm »

Quote from: flybox1 on May 07, 2014, 10:44:06 am
If it was purely a function of my footwork, i'd adjust the shift lever down (counterclockwise) one notch...

This helped a lot. Also shifting was hurting even through a good Frye harness boot. But a lower lever needed less foot travel.
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