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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #250 on: April 25, 2015, 02:56:37 PM »
Doggone shame about the weather, rb.  Even though we had thunderstorms this morning, it's in the low 70's today and supposed to be sunny and 81 tomorrow.  I keep telling you...pack up those bikes and come on down to Atlanta!  We've got room for you!  ;D
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #251 on: May 01, 2015, 05:21:14 PM »
Been working 10 hour days again so not enough time has been spent in the shop.
  But I did manage to sandblast #2 frame a little bit for a couple of nights.
Too bad today wasn't as nice as yesterday but, I painted that frame anyways. I was hoping to do them all at once but there just isn't enough time  prep and paint 3 frames in a weekend and have it done right.... need to get  a bigger compressor next time to do some extensive blasting, the one I've been using has been good enough for regular stuff but that sandblaster sure goes through a mess of air and allot of time is being wasted waiting for pressure recovery and cool down time.
Next life I'll think bigger.
One more frame to prep and paint, then there will be 3  500s ready to become rollers.
All the frames have been black so far and I was thinking maybe change it up and go for a color other than black....I still have a 76 f that I cut in a ridiculous attempt to make a dirt bike550 once, perhaps somewheres down the line I'll cafe that and use other colors... But my favorite stock 650 is next in line for a freshening since it didn't happen over the winter.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #252 on: May 01, 2015, 06:59:26 PM »
Looking forward to seeing some photos when you get some time.  Doing three at a time is some serious SOHC addition.  Love it!  ;D
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #253 on: May 02, 2015, 02:45:31 PM »
It must be next life already. Smoked the trusty compressor, babied it all the way through the sandblasting of frame #3, the one I thought looked the best out of all of them, must have had POR15 on it, and rust all underneath that. Took all day, what a PITA, then since compressor is down I had to spray the frame with rattle can. Oh well , not like I haven't seen it done before and it looks okay.
  Guess it's a trip to Farm and Country to check out a big stand up compressor, always wanted one anyways.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #254 on: May 03, 2015, 08:36:28 PM »

Frames have been out in the sun for the day, they are starting to go back together, parts are being cleaned up , and parts are on order...brakes,  tapered steering bearings , fork seals and gaters so far.  The clean up of parts will be the time consuming part, allot of standing in front of the buffers and parts cleaning tank coming up.hoping to have decent rollers by the end of the week. I've had a couple pair of superbike handlebars on order for 2 months along with some mirrors, they should be in this week too. I plan on using only one set of stock bars, Haven't really thought much about what these may turn out like yet,   mostly stock like usual I suppose, I 've got to get through these engines after the rollers are decent, then I'll think about seat shortage, header shortage, and paint colors.  No pods , have plenty of air boxes on the shelf to use....There's time to think about that stuff later, just moving forward now.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #255 on: May 06, 2015, 06:07:35 PM »
  Not all my stuff came in , maybe Friday... yeah right . The All Balls tapered steering stem did come in and they are in, so there is steering.
  All the fork seals came in so it must be fork time...just in forking time. One set of gaiters made it, the rest is on it's way from Parts unlimited only $19 a pair and they are nice soft rubber.takes a little more time to install because of that.
found another set of decent stock bars so, 2 stock bars and 1 superbike bar. if they ever get here. I've reordered them so many times that it wouldn't surprise me if 4 bars show up.
  Veserah now has a full set of 500 gaskets, they only came in 550 before and you had to purchase side case gasket for 500 separately except being a new item they are $40 more than the 550 gaskets. Said screw them , I have the case gaskets for 500 on the shelf so I bought the 550 gaskets in case I decide to do 2 550 engines instead of 500 engines.and saved $80 that will probably go to DSS for some primary chain or two.
  Small parts are being cleaned and painted,  other stuff getting derusted and polished , or if that doesn't flush , it gets painted before use.
 
« Last Edit: May 06, 2015, 06:11:15 PM by rb550four »
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #256 on: May 07, 2015, 07:14:37 PM »
Stopped in to the snowmobile (The only place to get stuff for miles) shop and most of my stuff came in except the bars and mirrors.
Spent the evening forking around in the shop...two pair of forks installed, may have to peicemeal a set out of the fork parts on the shelf for #3. I had a decent set but while polishing the lower end I found a stress crack mid way up one of the lower ends, cant use that. Wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't polished and going to be painted, but now I've seen it, junkpile.
 Handlebars and mirrors didn't make it this delivery either.
On a side note: I have discovered over the winter that a snowmobile isn't as exciting to me as a motorcycle, the snow season is over and it could be a hard sell, so I sold that Yamaha for what I had into it to the snowmobile shop just to get it off my trailer. Next year no snow machine,perhaps a vacation to a warmer climate is what's really needed here.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 07:38:39 PM by rb550four »
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #257 on: May 08, 2015, 04:59:05 AM »
Did you get the snow bike out this past winter?
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #258 on: May 08, 2015, 05:49:52 AM »
  I really wanted to, but there is absolutely no wind protection, this winter in particular was too cold to fool around in.
Snowbike didn't get on the ice this year.
  Even with the protection of that Yamaha's hood it was less then comfortable, really limited the fun factor.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #259 on: May 08, 2015, 08:12:38 PM »

  The frames are coming together.
 2 pair of handlebars and 2 sets of mirrors should be in Monday.
 All the 500 wheels that are left are rusty as hell, will have to go with 550 wheels and spacers on #3.
 Had a forking good day, all the frames have halfway decent forks on them now.
Every set of ears were f'd up so I had to get creative with the front blinkers. They all have blinkers  but none of the mounts are the same. I'm using up decent parts that are on the shelf when I can. These machines aren't going to a museum, they are  just being salvaged.
 And yes, #1 with the red tank, yeah , I realized I put the gaiters on upside down, tonight. May fix tomorrow, may not too.
It is also true that one 500 front fender was not salvageable,and a 550 fender off the shelf volunteered to take it's place .
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 08:22:55 PM by rb550four »
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #260 on: May 09, 2015, 03:27:12 PM »
1 set of bars, one fender and r.light to clean up,  and there will be 3 rollers in the driveway awaiting the family photo.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #261 on: May 10, 2015, 07:52:44 AM »
Another Mother's Day. Again, to my wife, I suggest we take a nice long ride maybe up to the Adirondacks...she.s on to me,  no truck no trailer.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #262 on: May 10, 2015, 08:06:07 AM »
Rb, would you be able to show me a 650 tach gear and a 550 tach gear side by side? Or tell me the difference? I have both but not sure which is which.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #263 on: May 10, 2015, 03:25:00 PM »
Another Mother's Day. Again, to my wife, I suggest we take a nice long ride maybe up to the Adirondacks...she.s on to me,  no truck no trailer.

Next time you must tell her that you're taking her on a Mother's Day "surprise" in the truck but without the trailer.  Then, when you're about 15 - 20 miles away (ie too far to walk back), stop and hook up the trailer where you've stashed it prior.  ;)

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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #264 on: May 11, 2015, 03:41:22 PM »
Sorry Tews, the shop is upsidedown right now and there are no 500/550 s engines apart yet, the 650's are buried in the corner and I just can't get to them....never enough space in a garage. I plan to get near that stuff next week . I'm guessing this is time sensitive. Just can't get there now. Sorry.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #265 on: May 11, 2015, 05:32:57 PM »
No rush RB! I was just curious. I can go with out for now.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #266 on: May 11, 2015, 07:21:56 PM »
I have a 650 tach gear that is accessible.  Let me dig it out of the storage box in the garage to photograph it with my phone so I can post it. If I recall correctly...The 650 cam has more "teeth"... than the 550 since it has a different ratio for the tach and the cam and tach drive gear.
I can do it either later tonight or tomorrow. Have a few things to take care of first tonight...
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« Reply #267 on: May 11, 2015, 07:43:32 PM »
Thanks Dave! No rush.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #268 on: May 13, 2015, 08:50:56 PM »
Got 3 rollers and no pics , on the road for a week but will update when I return.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #269 on: May 18, 2015, 10:45:07 AM »

  Got back from the Adirondacks last night, oldest daughter got married, had a great time , I think.
Giving the frames a mini timeout while I get some assemblance  of order happening in the garage.
 It should be engine time next.
 First 500 gets a good 2K engine after it gets painted.
2nd 500 engine is 11k ,suspect a stuck valve...PO said it turned over freely when he parked it. It didn't when I picked it up and he looked genuinely miffed...I gave it a slow,easy turn and found it stops. Never put pressure on it but rolled the crank each direction , sticks at the same place each time. It's getting broken down totally so there's no surprises later on.
3rd 500 engine has a stuck kickstart mechanism, it has 33k and will be taken down anyways .
 There is still the possibility of a 550 engine taking the place of the worst of the engines, so right now it's a wait and see.
If all the motors are go back without machine work, I'll do the 550 engine , and drop it in my regular ride

just because.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2015, 10:54:21 AM by rb550four »
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #270 on: May 18, 2015, 12:35:03 PM »
Would love to see some photos of the painting process for an engine that's already assembled since I'm about to do that to my 500 engine this week, once I get it completely stripped down and prepped for paint.
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #271 on: May 18, 2015, 03:41:08 PM »
Like that pic of the three rollers!
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« Reply #272 on: May 18, 2015, 04:24:39 PM »
Stop it, Steve-o.  I am trying to control my addiction!
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #273 on: May 20, 2015, 08:01:39 PM »
   The 2K 500 engine has been prepped and painted cast aluminum, all of it. I color  my rebuild's lower cases in cast iron.and the one that doesn't have cast iron is one I didn't build, easy right? Sometimes remembering whats what isn't so easy , so this method kinda lightens the load. Got 57 years of information in this head and either it needs more storage or needs to be fragged. So I'm starting to answer tomorrow's question with today's answer...so it doesn't become a question later because the answer is already known....just by looking at the color.... Unless I am already senile  and don't know it in which case I certainly will not know what is what because , well, just because.
  Anyways, the 500 engine is resting comfortably in #1's cradle awaiting the last few polished parts.
I think I may just finish wiring it up and get some of these parts off the floor ,then go for #2 and #3. 
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Re: 77 550 followed me home
« Reply #274 on: May 21, 2015, 09:37:11 AM »
 Sorry, I didn't take pictures of this but....
 I usually take down my engines and paint them while they are apart. This engine had only 2K on it and was carefully removed from a Harley mechanic's friend's 500 after a wreck in hopes of finding another frame for it. Never happened , said the friend had the livin' sh!t scared out of him and never rode again. So he's been storing this complete engine for years, in his shop, turning it over regularly and dropping motor oil down the cylinders. I said really? He said he is neurotic that way , and it got done a few times a year. Checked...all plugs were loose and there was some oil on the piston...not that I don't trust anyone, just checking out the story.
   So anyways, this one is just getting a paint refresh. I leave it together except for the chain side cover, that comes off so's to clean the sprocket area. you can tell it's a low miler by the amount of chain lube left behind, you can tell it's chain lube and not 90 w because it's really sticky . The sprocket was like new,but not. The charging system wiring was barely dirty but dirty enough to say it hasn't been cleaned. wires were soft, rubber gasket pliable . After a quick wash with mineral spirits the paint inside there looked new. Looks like original factory grease on the the clutch mechanism, not allot of it and no crud or crust. ( double checking the story, think it's true)
 So that and the entire engine gets a quick paintbrush bath in mineral spirits to loosen up  oil residue and road dust, then a check for flaking. This one is just discolored and the factory paint is still bonding great. A rough up with a scrongee pad ,  another paint brush bath. a good air blow down, one more bath just to find any hidden stuff and the final blow down. I let it sit out in the sun for a while to cook dry.
   So the clutch side cover could use a bit of polish so that comes off too. Of course the gasket will  be worthless and hopefully it doesn't get all stuck to the case between the clutch and the lower crank case cause that's a #$%* to get clean, cant get a removal tool in there without removing the clutch. Okay , so this one was stuck right there and the clutch was coming out . Just as well, I can check it's condition and nose around for ware and dirt...(I really do believe this PO , I just can't help it) Everything looked fresh and clean. That area gets newspaper and tape  before the clutch goes back on.
  The two aluminum caps on the heads were removed before for polishing , the points cover is loosened and taped up, the generator has been loosened ( just to be sure it will , because it'll come off after paint for polish) and taped. The engine is on a motorcycle jack on blocks of wood, under the front mounts and one side to side across the oil pan.I picked up 8 corks at the local hardware store years ago, they fit nicely in the intake and exhaust openings.
   So to recap, I cover the open spots that are on the engine with tape and paper. Plug the intake and exhaust  with corks. leave the electric covers on but loose  and tape them cause they will be polished later. I didn't mention , I change the tappet caps and vent top cover with crappy ones that I have painted on before, that way the originals are fresh and ready to polish during down time. Engine was  blocked up on a cycle jack from the start, now the engine is ready for paint.
 I like to let the engine warm up in the sun because Duplicolor can get runs easy and I can't be everywhere with the hairdryer all the time to stop a run and aid in drying at the same time.
 I do a light coat  in all the hard spots first, then light coat the entire engine a couple of times moving quickly around and under it just to get an even base, while it's tacking up I take my time and give it a smooth cover coat ( a wear coat depending where you live), then check for holidays, full panel touch up if needed so the coat stays looking uniform.
  Heat the engine with sunlight and a hairdryer the entire time while painting. When you stop painting it leaves one hand free for a beer while the other will be hairdrying a while longer. Stop when paints dry or you're drunk, whichever comes first.
  There it is, that's how I do it,  works for me , hope it can help someone else. If anyone finds an easier way, please let me know.
 
 
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